MBB Transfer Portal Thread: Moser Year 4

Things are looking brighter

So I fully expect Moore to enter the transfer lol halfway kidding

I know the date has passed but he could have told someone he might enter if his draft orojection isn’t good
 
Maverick008 said:
Playing hypothetical given there are still a lot of "what ifs" out there at the moment....but IF this ended up being the depth chart on paper:

Richmond/Miles/Elvis/Forsythe
Miles/Richmond/Elvis
Jones/Goodine/Cole
Moore/Northweather/Cole
Godwin/Reeves/Northweather

I would feel pretty decent about the pieces they put together.

Guys that have shown they can score in multiple ways: Richmond, Moore and Miles
Guys that can flat out shoot based on percentages: Miles, Elvis, Jones and Goodine
Guys that can rebound: Richmond (avg 7/gm), Moore, Godwin (great offensive rebounder), Reeves (Included here due to height but remains to be seen if/when he gets actual playing time)

But a big key here will be if they do add Reeves, did they get that "rim protector" that OU hasn't had in a while?

Otherwise, again, IF this is the roster, they seem to have put together a "decent at worst", group together on paper.

I at least would/will be excited to start next year compared to how I was feeling a week ago of what OU might end up with. Next week might be different again....Here's to hoping they close on Richmond this weekend and can then focus on the big.
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Richmond is the key, but yes, I'll take that lineup. Not a Final 4 contender, or even likely Sweet 16, but should be enough talent for the tourney.
 
Maverick008 said:
Playing hypothetical given there are still a lot of "what ifs" out there at the moment....but IF this ended up being the depth chart on paper:

Richmond/Miles/Elvis/Forsythe
Miles/Richmond/Elvis
Jones/Goodine/Cole
Moore/Northweather/Cole
Godwin/Reeves/Northweather

I would feel pretty decent about the pieces they put together.

Guys that have shown they can score in multiple ways: Richmond, Moore and Miles
Guys that can flat out shoot based on percentages: Miles, Elvis, Jones and Goodine
Guys that can rebound: Richmond (avg 7/gm), Moore, Godwin (great offensive rebounder), Reeves (Included here due to height but remains to be seen if/when he gets actual playing time)

But a big key here will be if they do add Reeves, did they get that "rim protector" that OU hasn't had in a while?

Otherwise, again, IF this is the roster, they seem to have put together a "decent at worst", group together on paper.

I at least would/will be excited to start next year compared to how I was feeling a week ago of what OU might end up with. Next week might be different again....Here's to hoping they close on Richmond this weekend and can then focus on the big.
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I did sort of a minutes by position breakdown just messing around yesterday (I’ve changed the big multiple times but since we’re talking Reeves I’ll go with that) and ended up with this:

Possible Minutes/Rotation Breakdown

Kadary Richmond - 34
Duke Miles - 30
Jadon Jones - 22
Jalon Moore - 27
Sam Godwin - 19

Starters total - 132

Kobe Elvis - 20
Brycen Goodine - 20
Christian Reeves - 15
Jacolb Cole - 13

Bench total - 68

1 - Richmond - 20, Elvis - 10, Miles - 10
2 - Miles - 20, Goodine - 10, Elvis - 10
3 - Jones - 22, Richmond - 8, Goodine - 10
4 - Moore - 21, Cole - 13, Richmond - 6
5 - Godwin - 19, Reeves 15, Moore - 6

I’m making a few big assumptions here. The first is obviously that we actually end up with Richmond/Reeves, but also:

1 - Godwin holds onto the starting spot
2 - Cole’s rumored readiness is real in terms of both skill and physicality
3 - the starter alongside Richmond, Miles, Moore, Godwin ends up being Jones (I wouldn’t be shocked by Elvis or Goodine either. Went with Jones due to the length & defensive ability)

Obviously the minutes/lineups have to be staggered right but this would be a rotation that could win a decent number of games imo. Richmond gives you a bunch of lineup versatility.

Player roles also change from play to play so it’s not like a hard visible switch from position to position, this is just an easy way to put it on paper.
 
Maverick008 said:
Playing hypothetical given there are still a lot of "what ifs" out there at the moment....but IF this ended up being the depth chart on paper:

Richmond/Miles/Elvis/Forsythe
Miles/Richmond/Elvis
Jones/Goodine/Cole
Moore/Northweather/Cole
Godwin/Reeves/Northweather

I would feel pretty decent about the pieces they put together.

Guys that have shown they can score in multiple ways: Richmond, Moore and Miles
Guys that can flat out shoot based on percentages: Miles, Elvis, Jones and Goodine
Guys that can rebound: Richmond (avg 7/gm), Moore, Godwin (great offensive rebounder), Reeves (Included here due to height but remains to be seen if/when he gets actual playing time)

But a big key here will be if they do add Reeves, did they get that "rim protector" that OU hasn't had in a while?

Otherwise, again, IF this is the roster, they seem to have put together a "decent at worst", group together on paper.

I at least would/will be excited to start next year compared to how I was feeling a week ago of what OU might end up with. Next week might be different again....Here's to hoping they close on Richmond this weekend and can then focus on the big.
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Been out of town all week attending a conference in Seattle so I feel like I missed a lot of the news and discussion...

But I agree, "IF" we can make these last couple of spots happen with Kadary and Reeves, IMO, that looks better than a roster with guys like Pedulla, Overton, Scott, Garrison, and Cooper. Much like last year, an improvement in needed areas and looks better as a group at the end than it did along the way.

Probably need @TEvans4Three brilliance to confirm, but I would guess we would have better shooters, better ball-handlers (less TOs), scorers from all levels, and still have a rim protector. Granted, direct comparisons may look weaker, like Garrison vs. Reeves, but as a unit, I would take the guys we've landed and maybe land vs. the ones visited and lost.

Maybe the bigger point is it's a good idea to see how this plays out and we'll be pleasantly surprised vs. the "shutdown the b-ball NIL and give to football", fire PM now, sky-is-falling sentiment that has existed on this board a lot. Still not ready to defend or praise PM, but has a chance to put together a pretty decent roster.
 
Eielson said:
Richmond is the key, but yes, I'll take that lineup. Not a Final 4 contender, or even likely Sweet 16, but should be enough talent for the tourney.
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Moneyball said:


This is the professor who teaches NIL classes at Rutgers.


And this is just a twitter random but thought I’d throw it in lol
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-Professor and basketball writer
-Random guy with 145 followers who shares stock tips

I am ready to be hurt again, lets go!

Landthieves said:
Exactly.. Make him an offer, he can’t refuse
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MJSooner said:
Been out of town all week attending a conference in Seattle so I feel like I missed a lot of the news and discussion...

But I agree, "IF" we can make these last couple of spots happen with Kadary and Reeves, IMO, that looks better than a roster with guys like Pedulla, Overton, Scott, Garrison, and Cooper. Much like last year, an improvement in needed areas and looks better as a group at the end than it did along the way.

Probably need @TEvans4Three brilliance to confirm, but I would guess we would have better shooters, better ball-handlers (less TOs), scorers from all levels, and still have a rim protector. Granted, direct comparisons may look weaker, like Garrison vs. Reeves, but as a unit, I would take the guys we've landed and maybe land vs. the ones visited and lost.

Maybe the bigger point is it's a good idea to see how this plays out and we'll be pleasantly surprised vs. the "shutdown the b-ball NIL and give to football", fire PM now, sky-is-falling sentiment that has existed on this board a lot. Still not ready to defend or praise PM, but has a chance to put together a pretty decent roster.
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I do have a full sheet with comparisons of our misses, guys leaving, guys coming in, and current roster. (But don't want to overload the board with charts - I'll DM you it)

Would you rather see a full outlook, or a last year v. this year "potential" roster breakdown? I can work on that later this afternoon after I finish this gable pitched pergola roof build...
 
steverocks35 said:
We don’t need a backup to Godwin at the 5. We need a starter.
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I agree. My preference would be having a better center than Godwin. If you're starting Godwin, fine, but you need someone behind him who can actually help.

Hypothetically, I would rather have Richmond (or Miles) + Onyenso or Brazile or Achor + [insert guard here] than Richmond + Miles + Reeves.

I watched almost every Duke game while Reeves was there. It's much more than just injuries and being behind others. He has some potential but it's not developed and I'm not sure it ever will be. Bluntly, he's raw af still and I don't see him helping OU next season (in a big way). OU needs an impact guy NOW, not more deep depth. What happens if Godwin goes down due to injury? Well, fuccing chaos is what would happen. Would Jalon Moore have to start at C while OU plays small ball? Would Northweather start? If Reeves starts, you're at a severe disadvantage. Reeves would be better off dropping a level (mid major - not D2).

Or keep looking/planning. Tomorrow's Cliff Omoruyi decision looms large for numerous schools.

Offer the Richmond bag to...

Ugonna Onyenso (Kentucky) - goes without saying.....most think he's going to Bama IF Omoruyi ends up elsewhere (UNC, Baylor, etc). Not sure who is second right now if Cliff ends up at Bama....need to look around.
Supreme Cook (Georgetown) - undersized but more effective at 6'8-6'9 than Reeves will be at 7'1.
Ven-Allen Lubin (Vanderbilt)
Achor Achor (Samford) - obviously better/most costly
Trevon Brazile (Arkansas) - yeah, I know....Brazile is rumored to be a big part of the locker room issues at Arky. I'd at least talk to the kid, see what's up. He has NBA potential, IMO. Obvious starter at OU.


Other cheap backup options...

Atiki Allly Atiki (BYU) - I don't really like Atiki's game, he's a fouling machine, but I'd prefer him as the backup over Reeves. More athletic, will likely produce more in '24-25. Has visited New Mexico, Seton Hall, and maybe Utah State (stopped tracking).

Abou Ousmane (Xavier) - probably more than cheap but not quite expensive...maybe $250-400K. Xavier fans were happy to see him leave but eh, we're talking about Ousmane as a possible complimentary backup (who could start if needed). He's rough around the edges but he would offer experience and size.

Just visited OK State

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Enoch Boakye (Fresno State) - to be honest, I don't know anything about this kid's recruitment. Haven't looked, yet.



Javonte Brown (Western Michigan) - began his career at UConn.




Mor Seck (Hawaii) - I like this kid's potential (as a backup) but he tore his ACL in January and yeah, he would be limited to start the season wherever he goes.

Thierno Sylla (UCF)

AJ Braun (Wright State) - led the country in FG%. Only 6'9-6'10 but that's fine. Godwin-esque. Not elite but if we're talking about as a backup, or in partnership with Sam, Braun seems capable of 6-8 ppg/4-6 rpg (like Sam). Two Sams is better than one Sam and nothing behind him.




Etc.
 
Dammit I can’t believe I am letting myself think we have a good shot at Richmond.

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If I'm deciding between a marginally better C or Richmond and I only get one...I'm taking Kadary 100% of the time...


You can have a very good team with a stud at PG/G with good wings and mediocre posts....you'll never see a good team with really good posts and no guards.


Just my opinion
 
For what it's worth, I frequently find myself at odds with articulating my thoughts. The multitude of active applications often diverts my attention. I draft a single sentence and then find myself ensnared in the alluring web of social media – a cycle of Twitter, Discord, and back again – only to lose the thread of my initial intention.

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I am unequivocally convinced that the optimal outcome would be for Richmond to join OU. On the theoretical level, the pairing of Richmond and Miles promises to be a distinguished combination.

It was my intention to suggest a strategic incentive for Richmond, contingent upon his decision not to choose OU. Should he consider an institution like St. John's, the prudent course of action would be to shift focus toward securing the most promising Center/Power Forward available, along with another potential candidate for starting guard, whose identity remains to be determined.

In the event that OU succeeds in recruiting Richmond, I maintain the stance that there exist superior alternatives for the Center/Power Forward position than Reeves, potentially with similar financial implications. This is simply my own perspective. I am quite comfortable in adopting a contrarian viewpoint, particularly regarding the discourse surrounding Reeves. It is not uncommon for me to adopt a stance that diverges from the prevailing consensus.

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AI off.

I meant to say, "Offer the Kadary bag to...", if he doesn't choose OU. I'm definitely in favor of adding Richmond. And if they do, I think they can do better than Reeves even if they're looking for A) a backup B) cheaply.
 
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