NBA draft

[skyvue]

I'm stuck at work, but I'm hearing there's some kind of deal in place between the Hawks and the Mavs to send Trae to Atlanta. What do you NBA mavens think of that deal, if it's true?

 

[Dr Sleep]

Atlanta is a awful team.

 

[Eielson]

I think it's a great fit for him if they play the way they did under Budenholzer. Unfortunately he's gone. I'm also not sure how he fits alongside Schroder. Schroder is likely on the block now, but he's one of the few talented players on that team. I don't know that they'll get a ton for him due to his off-court issues. Collins and Prince are the only players on that team I like, and I certainly wouldn't say I'm overwhelmed by them.

 

[WaymanFan]

Trae (#5 pick) and a future 1st round pick were traded by Dallas to Atlanta for Luka Doncic (#3 pick). As someone who lives in Charlotte, I'm glad he's in the Eastern Conference along with Blake...gives me more opportunities to see them play in Charlotte.

OU has never had the #5 overall pick until now.

#1 - Blake Griffin
#2 - Wayman Tisdale
#4 - Alvan Adams
#5 - Trae Young
#6 - Stacey King
#6 - Buddy Hield
#12 - Harvey Grant
#12 - Mookie Blaylock

 

[ByronHoustonsSweatyPalms]

Dallas basically gave up 2 first round picks for Doncic. He better be the next Lebron.


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[sperry]

Atlanta's roster is garbage, but they should be hands down the worst team in the league next year which would give them a shot at #1 overall. Then they'll get the Mavs pick, which should be top 10 as well.

 

[WichitaSooner]

Dallas basically gave up 2 first round picks for Doncic. He better be the next Lebron.


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They gave up one pick, that being next year's. They didn't give up a pick this year, they actually got a better pick (number 3) than what they originally had (number 5).

 

[sheepdogs1]

It's been a while since we had 3 players in "da league" and it feels good!

Thought the shorts-suit or is it a suit-shorts looked a bit weird, but to each his own.

 

[WaymanFan]

It's been a while since we had 3 players in "da league" and it feels good!

I think we "barely" had 3 in 2000-2001. I say barely because Brent Price was on the injured list most of that year. Eduardo was a rookie and Mookie was winding down a distinguished 13 year NBA career.

In 1994-1995 season, OU actually had SEVEN NBA players - Tisdale, Blaylock, Grant, King, Price, Bowie, and (for 1 year) Jeff Webster. A year later, Billy Tubbs still had 7 players with the addition of TCU's Kurt Thomas. While he inherited him, he turned Thomas into a stud...no arguing that Billy knew how to develop guys to play at the next level - one of the reasons Brent Price transferred to OU.

 

[thebigabd]

The Hawks had a great draft... The Huerter pick was really good too. He could end up being the best shooter in the draft.

PG: Trae Young (6'2'' 178) --- #5 overall pick
SG: Dennis Schroder (6'1'' 172) --- Averaged 19, 6 and 3
SF: Taurean Prince (6'8'' 220) --- Averaged 14 and 5 as a rookie
PF: John Collins (6'10 235) --- Averaged 10 and 7 as a rookie
C: Dwayne Dedmon (7'0'' 245) --- Averaged 10 and 8

Not sure if they can play Schroder and Young at the same time.

However... Young, Prince, Collins, and hopefully Huerter give them a foundation to sign/build around. Unless they land some huge free agents they will be rebuilding for a couple of years.

John Collins and Taurean Prince showed signs of being legit players in the league, both rookies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jlePH9_Wh8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqzJC3qOZ0A&t=2

 

[TulsaWorld]

Of Tulsa note:

Young and the Hawks are scheduled to play the Oklahoma City Thunder in an exhibition Oct. 7 at the BOK Center.

Link

 

[WTSooner]

I don't think it was a smart move by Atlanta. I think they are banking on Young becoming a star (think Curry), and I'm just not sure that is going to happen. I think the Doncic would have been the better option, or possibly even JJJ. Some of the other players might be better, but I understand Atlanta not going after them, as they don't have any chance of being elite, and Young, while I think it's a very small chance, does. Atlanta doesn't have a roster where adding a solid player or two moves the needle. They need a franchise changer. Doncic, JJJ, and Young are probably your only options there, assuming Porter's health made him undraftable at that spot.

 

[sdcloud9]

The Hawks had a great draft... The Huerter pick was really good too. He could end up being the best shooter in the draft.

PG: Trae Young (6'2'' 178) --- #5 overall pick
SG: Dennis Schroder (6'1'' 172) --- Averaged 19, 6 and 3
SF: Taurean Prince (6'8'' 220) --- Averaged 14 and 5 as a rookie
PF: John Collins (6'10 235) --- Averaged 10 and 7 as a rookie
C: Dwayne Dedmon (7'0'' 245) --- Averaged 10 and 8

Not sure if they can play Schroder and Young at the same time.

However... Young, Prince, Collins, and hopefully Huerter give them a foundation to sign/build around. Unless they land some huge free agents they will be rebuilding for a couple of years.

John Collins and Taurean Prince showed signs of being legit players in the league, both rookies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jlePH9_Wh8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqzJC3qOZ0A&t=2

I heard the Hawks are trying to move Schroder. Makes sense since Young was who they have wanted for a while.

 

[tmeyer3307]

Move Schroeder for a late first or vet with an expiring contract maybe. Suck one more year and get a top 3 pick again. Thought Buddy got some good help tonight for the Kings. Maybe they won't be as bad.

 

[thebigabd]

I don't think it was a smart move by Atlanta. I think they are banking on Young becoming a star (think Curry), and I'm just not sure that is going to happen. I think the Doncic would have been the better option, or possibly even JJJ. Some of the other players might be better, but I understand Atlanta not going after them, as they don't have any chance of being elite, and Young, while I think it's a very small chance, does. Atlanta doesn't have a roster where adding a solid player or two moves the needle. They need a franchise changer. Doncic, JJJ, and Young are probably your only options there, assuming Porter's health made him undraftable at that spot.

I dont know anything about Schroder, but one wonders from a pure production standpoint the difference between him and Young. They are about the same size, and Schroder averaged 19 points, 6 assists, and 4 rebounds per game.

Maybe they would have been better off keeping Schroder and going with Doncic or Bamba at that spot.

PG: Dennis Schroder
SG: Luka Doncic
SF: Taurean Prince
PF: John Collins
C: Dwyane Dedmon

But, they may be able to get something out of Schroder to get a serviceable shooting guard. Atlanta basically needs Doncic to not be a superstar.

 

[sperry]

I dont know anything about Schroder, but one wonders from a pure production standpoint the difference between him and Young. They are about the same size, and Schroder averaged 19 points, 6 assists, and 4 rebounds per game.

Maybe they would have been better off keeping Schroder and going with Doncic or Bamba at that spot.

PG: Dennis Schroder
SG: Luka Doncic
SF: Taurean Prince
PF: John Collins
C: Dwyane Dedmon

But, they may be able to get something out of Schroder to get a serviceable shooting guard. Atlanta basically needs Doncic to not be a superstar.

Schroder is not good. It's why they drafted Trae. They also aren't going to get anything out of Schroeder. They are underwater on that contract and will have to attach something to get off the contract.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Wish he would have went to orlando. much better situation.

 

[thebigabd]

Wish he would have went to orlando. much better situation.

Agreed...

 

[sperry]

The one thing that sucks now is that if Trae ends up having a solid career, but Doncic ends up being the superstar many predict him to be, all anyone will ever remember Trae for is being the guy that got traded for Doncic. And that kind of sucks.

 

[SoonerTraveler]

Just an FYI ...

2018 NBA Draft 1st Round Rookie Salary Projections:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonb...round-rookie-salary-projections/#7d81ee1b642d

According to that link, TY is looking to total about $27 million over his first 4 seasons.

How Does NBA Rookie Compensation Work?

The primary reasons why rookie hold-outs are essentially non-existent in the National Basketball Association is because all rookie salaries are predetermined by the Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA), as negotiated between the league and players union. While rookie NBA players have some flexibility within their first contracts, they have next to no leverage and are limited to the allotted scale set by the CBA. All first-round rookie contracts are guaranteed for two seasons, with an additional team option in years three and four of the deal. Rookies can sign for as little as 80% or as much as 120% of the scale amount within a year, although it is rare that they sign for significantly less than the full 120%. The scale amount is determined by draft position and is set for the first three years of the agreement, with the fourth year based on a percentage of the third year amount. It is also important to note that only 1st round picks are eligible for scale contracts and in the likely event a rookie signs the full 120% deal, any overage does not count against the teams salary cap status.

While there has long been an argument that sports agents provide little value for NBA rookies in terms of their contract, a good agent can insure that a player signs a max 120% deal and that the team has incentive to pick up his third and fourth years. These agents also invest heavily into their clients draft preparation, but do not receive a commission on their rookie contracts, even if their client signs a for the full 120%. Thus, agents rely on commissions from marketing deals the close their clients (usually 20%), as well as building equity to insure they're around to negotiate the rookie's second contract.