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People that say we don’t have the infrastructure to win must ignore college athletics as a whole. There are lots of schools out there that succeed despite having less NIL than others. And we DO have more money than most. We’re just not in that upper echelon of spenders.
Have any good examples?
 
Have any good examples?
Iowa State has almost no high profile, expensive transfers. Unlike Moser, he has a specific recruiting philosophy that remains the same year after year. He isn’t just throwing crap at the wall and hoping something finally sticks. And his teams are tough as hell mentally. And oh yeah, he took over a program that went winless in the league the year before he arrived. That’s one very obvious example.
 
If we don't make the Dance and Coach Moser is let go, my first question is, do we want Joe C making the new hire? For many years, I would tell anyone who would listen that I would not trade him for any AD in the country. I also know that Joe C is about the same age as me. I'm not saying when one gets older and has been doing the same thing forever that they cannot adapt. But the truth is, dramatic change does not come as easy as one gets older. Many of us get a bit stuck in our ways or at least go through some burnout. It happens, and there is no shame in it. With Joe C, it is crystal clear that he has not adapted to the NIL era anywhere as quickly as other ADs have. He has hurt the men's basketball program perhaps more than Coach Moser has because he really hasn't put him in a position to succeed. At least with Coach Capel, Joe C put him in a position to succeed...the rest was up to Capel...not sure we can say the same for Moser.

If Joe C steps down, it would be great if they hired an AD who really loves basketball. That would definitely help with securing one of the great choices I have read on this thread.
 
Iowa State has almost no high profile, expensive transfers. Unlike Moser, he has a specific recruiting philosophy that remains the same year after year. He isn’t just throwing crap at the wall and hoping something finally sticks. And his teams are tough as hell mentally. And oh yeah, he took over a program that went winless in the league the year before he arrived. That’s one very obvious example.
And on the flip side I think KSU spent a lot of money on their roster and are not playing great because Tang isn’t a great coach. Coaching matters. It will always matter.
 
Have any good examples?
Lots of teams in the big east fit the bill. Mississippi State is a good example. ISU was mentioned, that’s a great example. Gonzaga isn’t spending a crazy amount of money.

It will ALWAYS come down to coaching. You can buy a first team all American and won’t win the championship without a damn good coach.
 
If we don't make the Dance and Coach Moser is let go, my first question is, do we want Joe C making the new hire? For many years, I would tell anyone who would listen that I would not trade him for any AD in the country. I also know that Joe C is about the same age as me. I'm not saying when one gets older and has been doing the same thing forever that they cannot adapt. But the truth is, dramatic change does not come as easy as one gets older. Many of us get a bit stuck in our ways or at least go through some burnout. It happens, and there is no shame in it. With Joe C, it is crystal clear that he has not adapted to the NIL era anywhere as quickly as other ADs have. He has hurt the men's basketball program perhaps more than Coach Moser has because he really hasn't put him in a position to succeed. At least with Coach Capel, Joe C put him in a position to succeed...the rest was up to Capel...not sure we can say the same for Moser.

If Joe C steps down, it would be great if they hired an AD who really loves basketball. That would definitely help with securing one of the great choices I have read on this thread.
Same thing can be said regarding football. Joe C has been slow to adapt to the new era of NIL and the portal. He may have to hire a new FB coach after next season, as well.

Regardless of how it plays out for both sports, a new coach will be working for a lame duck AD unless Joe C retires soon.

As for basketball: I agree with the others that say you can buy All-Americans, but you also have to have someone that can coach at this level.
 
Rising College coaches (before start of 24-25 season)
Amir Abdur-Rahim, South Florida: One year after leading Kennesaw State to 26 wins and an NCAA Tournament appearance, Abdur-Rahim led South Florida to 25 victories and its first-ever American Athletic Conference regular season title. This guy doesn’t just have the chops to be a head coach in a power conference — he has the chops to be a star as a head coach in a power conference. Buy stock now.

Bucky McMillan, Samford: It’s hard to believe that McMillan was a high school coach just five years ago. In his last three seasons at Samford, McMillan has won 71 games including 29 a year ago which resulted in an NCAA Tournament berth. If there’s an opening in the SEC in the next few years, he’ll be on the short list.

Chris Mack, Charleston: Mack has yet to coach a game at Charleston, but he immediately became a high-major coaching candidate as soon as he returned to college basketball last spring. While his tenure at Louisville didn’t go as planned, Mack was dominant at Xavier as he took the Musketeers to to the Elite Eight in 2017. Xavier was also a one seed in the 2018 NCAA Tournament and a two seed in the 2016 NCAA Tournament under Mack’s watch. If Charleston wins 20 or more games this season, Mack could be in high demand next spring.

Bashir Mason, St. Peter’s: Mason was a three-time NEC Coach of the Year at Wagner and finally broke through last March when he led St. Peter’s to the NCAA Tournament. Only 40 years old, Mason has already been a Division 1 head coach for 12 seasons. He’ll be a name to watch moving forward as long as the Peacocks remain the MAAC’s top tier.

Robert Jones, Norfolk State: All this guy does is win. In the last four years, Jones has led the Spartans to two NCAA Tournaments and at least a share of three MEAC regular season titles. A Queens native, Jones is tailor made for a program that’s looking to rebuild with hard work and perspiration. Remember: He cut his teeth in this business at the non-Division I (New Paltz, Bard) and high school (St. Mary’s, Manhasset) levels.

Matt Langel, Colgate: Langel is either going to move to a higher level or he’s going to have a statue built in his honor in Hamilton, New York. The 46-year old head coach has coached in the last five NCAA Tournaments and won at least a share of six straight Patriot League regular season titles. Thanks to Langel, Colgate has become a mid-major dynasty in Upstate New York.

Will Wade, McNeese: People can say whatever they want about Wade’s past, but if you’re looking for a head coach to win at a high level in a power conference, this guy should be cemented at the top of the list. After sitting out the 2022-23 season, Wade returned to college basketball a year ago and led McNeese to 30 wins and a trip to March Madness. The Cowboys should be even better in 2024-25. A little known fact about Wade: He’s still the only head coach at VCU to win an NCAA Tournament game since Shaka Smart left the Rams’ program in 2015 for Texas. Wherever Wade goes, he wins big.

Donte Jackson, Grambling: A true grinder, Jackson has paid his dues in the coaching profession. A former NAIA and Division II head coach, Jackson reaped the fruits of his labor last season when he led Grambling to its first ever appearance in the NCAA Tournament. Keep a close eye on this guy over the next few years.

Speedy Claxton, Hofstra: This former NBA point guard has led his alma mater to a combined 66 wins and three 20-win seasons in his first three years as a head coach. Claxton has also never finished lower than third in the CAA regular season standings. If the Pride can break through and get to the NCAA Tournament, Claxton has the resume, experience, and pedigree of someone who may get a long, hard look from a higher level.

Chris Gerlufsen, San Francisco: He may not be getting the same attention as his predecessors — Todd Golden (Florida) and Kyle Smith (Stanford) — with the Dons, but Gerlufsen is more than capable. Several WCC coaches have raved about his X and O acumen and the results speak for themselves. San Francisco has won a combined 43 games in its two years under Gerlufsen and should continue to be at the top of WCC standings under his stewardship in 2024-25.

Bryce Drew, Grand Canyon: Drew has averaged 23.5 wins per season in the four years that he’s been at Grand Canyon, which has been highlighted by three NCAA Tournament appearances. If he desires to return to the power conference level, Drew has the requisites to again be the leader of a high-major program. Another thing to keep a close eye on: The team that he’s about to coach may be the best one that he’s had since he took over the Antelopes’ program in 2020.

Kenny Blakeney, Howard: A Washington D.C. native, Blakeney has led the Bison to back-to-back appearances in the last two NCAA Tournaments. A strong recruiter who has added multiple players from power conferences during his time at Howard, the 52-year Blakeney has the pedigree, temperament, and coaching ability to continue to ascend. Remember: This guy was a part of two teams at Duke that won back-to-back national titles in 1991 and 1992.

James Jones, Yale: Is it an oversight or an insult? Since 2016, Jones has led Yale to four NCAA Tournament appearances, two NCAA Tournament wins, and at least a share of four Ivy League regular season titles. Somehow though, his name is never mentioned as a serious candidate for openings at the power conference level. A non self-promoter, Jones still has plenty of mileage left in his career and would be a sneaky good hire by any high-major program in the future.

Drew Valentine, Loyola Chicago: Just 33 years young, Valentine has already won a title as a head coach in both the Missouri Valley and the Atlantic 10. Smooth, confident, and mature beyond his years, this guy showed his coaching ability last season when he led the Ramblers to a share of the Atlantic 10 regular season title after a disappointing 15th place finish when Loyola Chicago first joined the league in 2022-23. The brother of former Michigan State star Denzel Valentine, Drew Valentine is on track to be a major force in college basketball for the next few decades.

Alan Huss, High Point: Huss didn’t get High Point to the NCAA Tournament last season, but 27 wins and a regular season title in your first season as a head coach is simply a ridiculous accomplishment. A disciple of Greg McDermott at Creighton, Huss knows what he’s good at and is good at what he knows. High Point averaged 84.2 points last season in its first year under Huss’ leadership.

I pulled out the list of coaches, KP stats for this year and what their team was before, to see a comparison of this list. I removed teams that are currently 200+ KP, bc why even bother. Also removed James Jones, bc no way that dude leaves Yale. Been there since 2000.

I have also added @StoopsBros coaches, bc duh. (Although, I am out on Cross, Riley for sure)

After compiling this list, I am 100% in on Will Wade or Bucky McMillan. (Bryce Drew is in my tier-2 with the yellow highlights)

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The tough part is, there is probably 1 or 2 guys that really move the needle on a "big" improvement. Porter Moser has been even keel at OU, just hasn't got the tournament for us. Which sucks and absolutely sours us as a fanbase. Moser was a flash in the pan hire, coming off of his Loyola success. Can any of these names above, bring in NIL talent with meh funding and field a better product on the floor? Probably, but to know which one...man, now that is a tough question to answer.

Again, awful loss to KP 15th ranked Texas A&M (yes without their best scorer and yes a blown 18 pt lead) and a bad loss to KP 7th ranked Bama (away). We have some games we need to win coming up.

I still have dreams of us going back in time and hiring Grant MacCasland. *sigh*
 
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Lots of teams in the big east fit the bill. Mississippi State is a good example. ISU was mentioned, that’s a great example. Gonzaga isn’t spending a crazy amount of money.

It will ALWAYS come down to coaching. You can buy a first team all American and won’t win the championship without a damn good coach.
Cool. So you ASSUME that these teams aren't spending money. None of us actually know.
 
I justdon't know if you will get anyone to come here. Might have to endure PM for another year or until a new arena is actually happening and then maybe you could get someone after we should a commitment to bball
 
Rising College coaches (before start of 24-25 season)
Amir Abdur-Rahim, South Florida: One year after leading Kennesaw State to 26 wins and an NCAA Tournament appearance, Abdur-Rahim led South Florida to 25 victories and its first-ever American Athletic Conference regular season title. This guy doesn’t just have the chops to be a head coach in a power conference — he has the chops to be a star as a head coach in a power conference. Buy stock now.

Bucky McMillan, Samford: It’s hard to believe that McMillan was a high school coach just five years ago. In his last three seasons at Samford, McMillan has won 71 games including 29 a year ago which resulted in an NCAA Tournament berth. If there’s an opening in the SEC in the next few years, he’ll be on the short list.

Chris Mack, Charleston: Mack has yet to coach a game at Charleston, but he immediately became a high-major coaching candidate as soon as he returned to college basketball last spring. While his tenure at Louisville didn’t go as planned, Mack was dominant at Xavier as he took the Musketeers to to the Elite Eight in 2017. Xavier was also a one seed in the 2018 NCAA Tournament and a two seed in the 2016 NCAA Tournament under Mack’s watch. If Charleston wins 20 or more games this season, Mack could be in high demand next spring.

Bashir Mason, St. Peter’s: Mason was a three-time NEC Coach of the Year at Wagner and finally broke through last March when he led St. Peter’s to the NCAA Tournament. Only 40 years old, Mason has already been a Division 1 head coach for 12 seasons. He’ll be a name to watch moving forward as long as the Peacocks remain the MAAC’s top tier.

Robert Jones, Norfolk State: All this guy does is win. In the last four years, Jones has led the Spartans to two NCAA Tournaments and at least a share of three MEAC regular season titles. A Queens native, Jones is tailor made for a program that’s looking to rebuild with hard work and perspiration. Remember: He cut his teeth in this business at the non-Division I (New Paltz, Bard) and high school (St. Mary’s, Manhasset) levels.

Matt Langel, Colgate: Langel is either going to move to a higher level or he’s going to have a statue built in his honor in Hamilton, New York. The 46-year old head coach has coached in the last five NCAA Tournaments and won at least a share of six straight Patriot League regular season titles. Thanks to Langel, Colgate has become a mid-major dynasty in Upstate New York.

Will Wade, McNeese: People can say whatever they want about Wade’s past, but if you’re looking for a head coach to win at a high level in a power conference, this guy should be cemented at the top of the list. After sitting out the 2022-23 season, Wade returned to college basketball a year ago and led McNeese to 30 wins and a trip to March Madness. The Cowboys should be even better in 2024-25. A little known fact about Wade: He’s still the only head coach at VCU to win an NCAA Tournament game since Shaka Smart left the Rams’ program in 2015 for Texas. Wherever Wade goes, he wins big.

Donte Jackson, Grambling: A true grinder, Jackson has paid his dues in the coaching profession. A former NAIA and Division II head coach, Jackson reaped the fruits of his labor last season when he led Grambling to its first ever appearance in the NCAA Tournament. Keep a close eye on this guy over the next few years.

Speedy Claxton, Hofstra: This former NBA point guard has led his alma mater to a combined 66 wins and three 20-win seasons in his first three years as a head coach. Claxton has also never finished lower than third in the CAA regular season standings. If the Pride can break through and get to the NCAA Tournament, Claxton has the resume, experience, and pedigree of someone who may get a long, hard look from a higher level.

Chris Gerlufsen, San Francisco: He may not be getting the same attention as his predecessors — Todd Golden (Florida) and Kyle Smith (Stanford) — with the Dons, but Gerlufsen is more than capable. Several WCC coaches have raved about his X and O acumen and the results speak for themselves. San Francisco has won a combined 43 games in its two years under Gerlufsen and should continue to be at the top of WCC standings under his stewardship in 2024-25.

Bryce Drew, Grand Canyon: Drew has averaged 23.5 wins per season in the four years that he’s been at Grand Canyon, which has been highlighted by three NCAA Tournament appearances. If he desires to return to the power conference level, Drew has the requisites to again be the leader of a high-major program. Another thing to keep a close eye on: The team that he’s about to coach may be the best one that he’s had since he took over the Antelopes’ program in 2020.

Kenny Blakeney, Howard: A Washington D.C. native, Blakeney has led the Bison to back-to-back appearances in the last two NCAA Tournaments. A strong recruiter who has added multiple players from power conferences during his time at Howard, the 52-year Blakeney has the pedigree, temperament, and coaching ability to continue to ascend. Remember: This guy was a part of two teams at Duke that won back-to-back national titles in 1991 and 1992.

James Jones, Yale: Is it an oversight or an insult? Since 2016, Jones has led Yale to four NCAA Tournament appearances, two NCAA Tournament wins, and at least a share of four Ivy League regular season titles. Somehow though, his name is never mentioned as a serious candidate for openings at the power conference level. A non self-promoter, Jones still has plenty of mileage left in his career and would be a sneaky good hire by any high-major program in the future.

Drew Valentine, Loyola Chicago: Just 33 years young, Valentine has already won a title as a head coach in both the Missouri Valley and the Atlantic 10. Smooth, confident, and mature beyond his years, this guy showed his coaching ability last season when he led the Ramblers to a share of the Atlantic 10 regular season title after a disappointing 15th place finish when Loyola Chicago first joined the league in 2022-23. The brother of former Michigan State star Denzel Valentine, Drew Valentine is on track to be a major force in college basketball for the next few decades.

Alan Huss, High Point: Huss didn’t get High Point to the NCAA Tournament last season, but 27 wins and a regular season title in your first season as a head coach is simply a ridiculous accomplishment. A disciple of Greg McDermott at Creighton, Huss knows what he’s good at and is good at what he knows. High Point averaged 84.2 points last season in its first year under Huss’ leadership.

I pulled out the list of coaches, KP stats for this year and what their team was before, to see a comparison of this list. I removed teams that are currently 200+ KP, bc why even bother. Also removed James Jones, bc no way that dude leaves Yale. Been there since 2000.

I have also added @StoopsBros coaches, bc duh. (Although, I am out on Cross, Riley for sure)

After compiling this list, I am 100% in on Will Wade or Bucky McMillan. (Bryce Drew is in my tier-2 with the yellow highlights)

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The tough part is, there is probably 1 or 2 guys that really move the needle on a "big" improvement. Porter Moser has been even keel at OU, just hasn't got the tournament for us. Which sucks and absolutely sours us as a fanbase. Moser was a flash in the pan hire, coming off of his Loyola success. Can any of these names above, bring in NIL talent with meh funding and field a better product on the floor? Probably, but to know which one...man, now that is a tough question to answer.

Again, awful loss to KP 15th ranked Texas A&M (yes without their best scorer and yes a blown 18 pt lead) and a bad loss to KP 7th ranked Bama (away). We have some games we need to win coming up.

I still have dreams of us going back in time and hiring Grant MacCasland. *sigh*
Talk to me about this jerrod Calhoun guy
 
Talk to me about this jerrod Calhoun guy
Don't mind if I do...

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Compare his year to the last 10 at Utah St?
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He is doing pretty good this year, has improved (turned around) the Fightin' Penguins in his time, but is he coaching outside the bounds of what Utah St has been for the last 7 years? Mehhhh
 
Cool. So you ASSUME that these teams aren't spending money. None of us actually know.
This is the height of irony. This is what many of us have said for three years, but some of you act like you know the NIL of every program and repeatedly use it as the reason it’s not fair to expect us to compete at a high level
 
Lots of teams in the big east fit the bill. Mississippi State is a good example. ISU was mentioned, that’s a great example. Gonzaga isn’t spending a crazy amount of money.

It will ALWAYS come down to coaching. You can buy a first team all American and won’t win the championship without a damn good coach.

gonzaga may not be spending a crazy amount of money....but they have mark few.
we're not going to hire mark few. and how long did it take mark few to get gonzaga where they are today?
we're going to have to take a chance on a guy like porter moser.....and hope for the best.
 
gonzaga may not be spending a crazy amount of money....but they have mark few.
we're not going to hire mark few. and how long did it take mark few to get gonzaga where they are today?
we're going to have to take a chance on a guy like porter moser.....and hope for the best.
That would be a dream come true...

Mark Few has been to 25 NCAA tournaments in 25 years at Gonzaga...his first and only head coaching job
(COVID year included)
 
People that say we don’t have the infrastructure to win must ignore college athletics as a whole. There are lots of schools out there that succeed despite having less NIL than others. And we DO have more money than most. We’re just not in that upper echelon of spenders.

Those teams don’t play in the toughest conferences though. Ou has shown it would have no problem whatsoever beating up on teams from lesser conferences. Fact is ou is in the bottom quartile in every important facet of the Sec and big12 for basketball (fan support, venue, NIL predominantly).
 
People that say we don’t have the infrastructure to win must ignore college athletics as a whole. There are lots of schools out there that succeed despite having less NIL than others. And we DO have more money than most. We’re just not in that upper echelon of spenders.
Does anyone know what OU NIL was for 24-25 seasons. I know OU was around $22,000 the second season. Kansas last year was 4-5 million. Arkansas to get Calipari was $5 million.
The median Power 5 collective NIL payroll for this season 2023-24)was approximately $750,000, according to Jason Belzer, the CEO of Student Athlete NIL, and he expects that number to double to $1.5 million for next year. Belzer's SANIL company works with the collectives for a wide range of basketball programs, from more prominent schools like Syracuse and Notre Dame to basketball-only powerhouses like Creighton to smaller schools such as Duquesne and Austin Peay. It gives him a good sense of the marketplace data and what worked and didn't work this past season.
 
Does anyone know what OU NIL was for 24-25 seasons. I know OU was around $22,000 the second season. Kansas last year was 4-5 million. Arkansas to get Calipari was $5 million.
The median Power 5 collective NIL payroll for this season 2023-24)was approximately $750,000, according to Jason Belzer, the CEO of Student Athlete NIL, and he expects that number to double to $1.5 million for next year. Belzer's SANIL company works with the collectives for a wide range of basketball programs, from more prominent schools like Syracuse and Notre Dame to basketball-only powerhouses like Creighton to smaller schools such as Duquesne and Austin Peay. It gives him a good sense of the marketplace data and what worked and didn't work this past season.
Belzer ran the C&C collective, too. I know when it was C&C, we were WAY behind the curve. I don't have any direct insight into the 1Oklahoma efforts, but do have insight into the overall picture.
 
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