New softball thread

[anthrosooner]

One of Utah Valley's former coaches was former OU player Tiffany Weight. She and her husband were their coaches in recent years, but seem to have left coaching.

 

[tycat947]

Wednesday
Southeast Louisiana at #5 LSU LSU wins
#9 Minnesota at Wisconsin Minnesota wins
#9 Minnesota at wisconsin Minnesota wins
Northern Iowa at #13 Missouri MIZ...ZOU wins
Northern Iowa at #13 Missouri MIZ...ZOU wins
Texas-San Antonio at #14 Baylor Hypocrite U LOSES! UTSA wins

 

[sybarite]

I see that we have live video tonight at 6:00 on SoonerVision premium.

 

[Sweetest OU Girl]

I see that we have live video tonight at 6:00 on SoonerVision premium.

It is interesting that we can get almost none of our games on any kind of live TV. Texas gets every game on their LHN.

Joe C really messed up with his decision about going with FOX. Virtually nothing is ever on TV. That will eventually have a massive impact on recruiting in every sport.

 

[AustinTXSooner]

It is interesting that we can get almost none of our games on any kind of live TV. Texas gets every game on their LHN.

Joe C really messed up with his decision about going with FOX. Virtually nothing is ever on TV. That will eventually have a massive impact on recruiting in every sport.

I'll have to disagree in one respect. Going with Fox was a smart move. Last year, a ton of softball games were on TV. It seems like fewer have been on this year for some reason. But overall, there are a ton of OU sports on TV now. I'm constantly having to weed out broadcasts from being recorded on my DVR. I can't follow all of the sports, unfortunately.

 

[SoonerSpock]

It is interesting that we can get almost none of our games on any kind of live TV. Texas gets every game on their LHN.

Joe C really messed up with his decision about going with FOX. Virtually nothing is ever on TV. That will eventually have a massive impact on recruiting in every sport.

Television coverage for all sports not named football is the fault of the Big 12 conference not choosing to go with a B12 network but instead succumbing to Texas' desire for each school to manage its own third media rights. Joe C. did not mess up the B12 conference did.

The B12 has approximately 38.8 million in population. 27 million is in Texas. OU has 3.9 million. Although the B12 does not have the population base of the B1G and SEC they are large enough to have negotiated a large contract with either ESPN or Fox. Instead the B12 chose to allow Texas control third tier viewing of 70% of the population base leaving other schools like OU with 10% of the population with little viewer leverage. The OU deal with Fox is far superior financially and in viewing hours to that of any school that negotiated as an independent school not named Texas or Notre Dame. Financially it might be a good deal for the Sooners. But unfortunately it deprived the fans of 9 schools in the B12 of getting frequent free access to view their minor sports teams and to some extent their men's and women's basketball teams.

With a conference contract OU third tier games would have a greater exposure over 5 states for perhaps the same number on contest or slightly more. Texas on the other had would also have a larger 5 state exposure but on significantly fewer contest without the longhorn network.

 

[tycat947]

It is interesting that we can get almost none of our games on any kind of live TV. Texas gets every game on their LHN.

Joe C really messed up with his decision about going with FOX. Virtually nothing is ever on TV. That will eventually have a massive impact on recruiting in every sport.

I disagree. I'd argue that OU has more Tier 3 games shown on TV than any school in the country not named texas. Even if we wanted, we would have never gotten a deal like texas got. And I think now in hindsight, ESPiN wouldn't have given texas that contract again. Seems to me they have moved on and are fully promoting the SEC ESPiN network now. You rarely see the LHN mentioned on ESPiN.

Fox has shown basketball (men's and women's), baseball, softball, gymnastics (men's and women's), tennis (men's and women's), volleyball, wrestling along with coaches shows (basketball, tennis, baseball, softball, volleyball, etc). Many of these games are shown nationally on the Fox Sports regional channels.

My only gripe is that there is not one specific channel to get the shows. And sometimes a game is not televised in HD but is available on the Standard Definition channels. You have to really search sometimes to find the games. Otherwise, outside of LHN, I don't know who has better than we do.

 

[Sweetest OU Girl]

Television coverage for all sports not named football is the fault of the Big 12 conference not choosing to go with a B12 network but instead succumbing to Texas' desire for each school to manage its own third media rights. Joe C. did not mess up the B12 conference did.

The B12 has approximately 38.8 million in population. 27 million is in Texas. OU has 3.9 million. Although the B12 does not have the population base of the B1G and SEC they are large enough to have negotiated a large contract with either ESPN or Fox. Instead the B12 chose to allow Texas control third tier viewing of 70% of the population base leaving other schools like OU with 10% of the population with little viewer leverage. The OU deal with Fox is far superior financially and in viewing hours to that of any school that negotiated as an independent school not named Texas or Notre Dame. Financially it might be a good deal for the Sooners. But unfortunately it deprived the fans of 9 schools in the B12 of getting frequent free access to view their minor sports teams and to some extent their men's and women's basketball teams.

With a conference contract OU third tier games would have a greater exposure over 5 states for perhaps the same number on contest or slightly more. Texas on the other had would also have a larger 5 state exposure but on significantly fewer contest without the longhorn network.

OU and Joe C were a big part of the reason the Big-12 agreed to give up 3rd tier conference TV rights.

Our agreement with Fox produced mostly one thing: a way for the school to gouge fans if they want to see events on TV. Just look at the OU webpage and what is scheduled for TV. Virtually nothing of interest. Almost everything is pay to watch.

And by going with Fox we ended our good relations with ESPN so they are financially motivated to keep us off whenever possible. But even Fox fails to show many of our events on their stations. The agreement with them needed to be negotiated to require a reasonable amount of live and replay events on their stations. Obviously we did not choose to do that.

Instead it was a decision to make most of it "Pay To View" at unreasonable rates. The result? Almost no one - especially recruits see us on TV much. Very bad decision.

 

[mikeareese]

Sats game is pink t-shirts for 1st 400 fans.

 

[scrybe]

A review of my DVR shows at least 14 Sooner softball games have been (or will be) televised (nationally or regionally) this season. The majority of those games were on Fox channels (Fox Sports SW, Fox Sports Oklahoma, Fox Sports 1, etc.), but at least three were on ESPN networks. And, of course, three were on the LHN, just because we were "lucky" enough to be playing UT (we showed our appreciation by sweeping their raggedly butts).

I really don't know how many more games we'd have got to see on TV under those other contract scenarios mentioned in this thread. But, like tycat said, I really feel like we were pretty fortunate to be able to see our Sooners play on TV 14 times during the regular season. Of course, I'd also be fine with having all our games televised.

 

[BlackwellSooner]

I also disagree that the Big 12's allegiance with Fox is a good thing for minor sports, for the main reason that baseball/softball, etc., are typically on either FSN, FSok, or something other than Fox Sports, (which my cable company DOES carry, along with FS1).
I happen to know that many cable companies, (in addition to DirecTV and Dish for awhile) dropped FSN/FSok from their lineups when the latter jacked up the rates about a year and a half ago. Rather than pay the higher rates, many cable companies just dropped them, to the detriment of their customers and many Big 12 fans. I would estimate that FSN/FSok being dropped from the cable lineup has caused me to either miss watching about at least a third of the OU football games and nearly all of the OU basketball/softball/baseball games not carried by ESPN - and ESPN only shows maybe one or two OU softball/women's basketball games per season.

Since my cable company does not carry FSN/FSok, and since SoonerVision is in bed with Fox, even if I wanted (I very well might) to subscribe to SoonerVision, I wouldn't, since I would not be able to watch games due to FSN/OK not being carried by my cable company.

I am not a fan of the Big 12's TV deal with Fox... OTOH, almost all cable companies carry ESPN. I would far rather the Big 12 had dealt with the Evil Empire...

 

[tycat947]

A review of my DVR shows at least 14 Sooner softball games have been (or will be) televised (nationally or regionally) this season. The majority of those games were on Fox channels (Fox Sports SW, Fox Sports Oklahoma, Fox Sports 1, etc.), but at least three were on ESPN networks. And, of course, three were on the LHN, just because we were "lucky" enough to be playing UT (we showed our appreciation by sweeping their raggedly butts).

I really don't know how many more games we'd have got to see on TV under those other contract scenarios mentioned in this thread. But, like tycat said, I really feel like we were pretty fortunate to be able to see our Sooners play on TV 14 times during the regular season. Of course, I'd also be fine with having all our games televised.

I looked on Big 10 Network, just as an example and Nebraska, was shown 4 times this season on the BTN. #4 Michigan was on about 6 times. They were both maybe shown on other regional/nat'l networks once or twice more. I have zero interest in watching texas-ISU, osu-Tech or Hypocrite U-KU on TV, in any sport. I think financially we have probably the best deal we could have gotten and probably better than 98% of the rest of D1 schools in the country. We also wouldn't have the coaches shows (Kruger, Coale, Gasso, Hughes, Kindler, Williams, Restrepo, etc) on BTN and many of these are shown almost nationwide thru the Fox Sports regional networks. I, of course, would like to see more as well and hopefully, it will continue to evolve and expand in the future.

 

[SoonerSpock]

OU and Joe C were a big part of the reason the Big-12 agreed to give up 3rd tier conference TV rights.

Our agreement with Fox produced mostly one thing: a way for the school to gouge fans if they want to see events on TV. Just look at the OU webpage and what is scheduled for TV. Virtually nothing of interest. Almost everything is pay to watch.

And by going with Fox we ended our good relations with ESPN so they are financially motivated to keep us off whenever possible. But even Fox fails to show many of our events on their stations. The agreement with them needed to be negotiated to require a reasonable amount of live and replay events on their stations. Obviously we did not choose to do that.

Instead it was a decision to make most of it "Pay To View" at unreasonable rates. The result? Almost no one - especially recruits see us on TV much. Very bad decision.

No question OU made a decision to support the Texas position on third tier media rights and financially it was probably right for OU but it took at least 6 schools to allow individual media right control. Something all the other major conference chose to do.

However I doubt any member of the B12 had any conception what Texas would get from ESPN contract ($300 million for 20 years and their own network). At least all the schools reaction when they saw what Texas achieved in their Longhorn contract would indicate such. 20/20 hindsight proves the B12 schools should have taken a different approach to media rights if they could do it again.

 

[sybarite]

With UVerse, the only way that I get the FOX channel that carries OU is to pay extra for a package that includes HBO, Cinemax, Showtime, etc. Since all of these tend to bore me, I will drop it after softball season. It was good for OU basketball, gymnastics, and softball. But, I already pay extra for a sports package before getting OU, and I get tired of all the different packages required to get anything other than basic cable, which isn't all that good either. If it weren't for TCM and TBS, which carries re-runs of Bones and Castle, I might just drop everything.

 

[scrybe]

I also disagree that the Big 12's allegiance with Fox is a good thing for minor sports, for the main reason that baseball/softball, etc., are typically on either FSN, FSok, or something other than Fox Sports, (which my cable company DOES carry, along with FS1).
I happen to know that many cable companies, (in addition to DirecTV and Dish for awhile) dropped FSN/FSok from their lineups when the latter jacked up the rates about a year and a half ago. Rather than pay the higher rates, many cable companies just dropped them, to the detriment of their customers and many Big 12 fans. I would estimate that FSN/FSok being dropped from the cable lineup has caused me to either miss watching about at least a third of the OU football games and nearly all of the OU basketball/softball/baseball games not carried by ESPN - and ESPN only shows maybe one or two OU softball/women's basketball games per season.

Since my cable company does not carry FSN/FSok, and since SoonerVision is in bed with Fox, even if I wanted (I very well might) to subscribe to SoonerVision, I wouldn't, since I would not be able to watch games due to FSN/OK not being carried by my cable company.

I am not a fan of the Big 12's TV deal with Fox... OTOH, almost all cable companies carry ESPN. I would far rather the Big 12 had dealt with the Evil Empire...

Availability of sporting events will always vary depending on which carrier (cable company, satellite system, etc.) a fan has. I can understand why you are frustrated over the cable company dropping Fox Sports Net and Fox Sports Oklahoma.

Let me suggest that you consider dropping your cable service and going with DirecTV instead. Most DirecTV basic packages include ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, Fox Sports 1, and Fox Sports 2. Your basic package also includes the Fox Sports Net regional sports channel that serves the area in which you live. If you live in Oklahoma or Texas, that is Fox Sports Southwest, of which Fox Sports Oklahoma is a part (Fox Sports OK is not a full-time network, but it televises almost all of the Thunder games and many live OU sporting events, including softball, baseball, basketball, etc.).

And for an additional $13.95 per month (approximate), you can get all of the Regional Sports Channels (Fox and other networks) added. I've never counted them, but I'd estimate there are around 30-40 of them. They bring you high school, college and professional sports from just about every part of the U.S. Of course, a lot of the live sports is duplicated on these channels, and most of the professional sports, except for the teams in your area (Thunder, Texas Rangers, etc.) are blacked out, unless you also subscribe to those packages.

For the most part, DirecTV offers more live sports than just about any other satellite or cable service. Of course, like cable, it can be expensive.

 

[AustinTXSooner]

I would have to agree about DirecTV. I've had it for a long time and I get the Sports Pack mentioned. For college sports fans, there's nothing better.

 

[sybarite]

Chamberlain
Pendley, S
Parker
Miller, E
Self
Ellis
Casey
Pendley, N
Arnold

SP Stevens

The video is North Texas video, and ours doesn't work. I guess it it audio and gametracker for me.

 

[sybarite]

The audio seems to be an NFL draft discussion instead of OU softball. Gametracker has nothing.

 

[sybarite]

Lauren strikes out looking
Shelby grounds out to second.
Paige flies out to left.
0-0

Strunk singles to center on a 3-1 count, after a 3-0 count.
Schoblocher grounds to third, force at second, 1-1 count
Hoff singles up the middle on a 2-2 count
Smith strikes out swinging on a 0-2 count.
Land strikes out after fouling off six pitches.
0-0
No walks.

Erin, Kady, and Whitney due up.

 

[sybarite]

Second inning, we finally have audio.
Erin grounds out to second.
Kady singles to left on the first pitch.
Gametracker is a minute ahead of the audio.
Ellis flies out to left.
Kady steals second
Georgia pops to center.
0-0

Schkade hit by pitch on a 0-1 count
Wade homered down the left field line on a 2--2 count. 0-2
Ferrell walked on four pitches.
Beardsley struck out swinging on a 1-2 count
Strunk singled to right center, Ferrell to second
Schoblocher lined out to third on a 1-1 count, Ferrell to third on a wild pitch
Hoff grounded to second on a 3-2 pitch.
0-2 after two