OU and the Bubble...

Disagree on them closing a loophole

The committee isn’t going to set rules on their selection

We’ll agree to disagree. I ‘m glad that if one team makes it in the Dance with a 6-12 / 0-10 record, it will be OU.
 
It's not anywhere near a one-year thing, it will be the norm going forward to have several well under .500 teams get in. You're still viewing this like it's the old days, when conferences had a reasonable number of teams, and didn't play as many games and therefore teams didn't have as many losses and (more importantly) didn't have to play so many other good teams. But in this day and age of some of the power conferences having way, way, way too many teams, there are going to continue to be lots of solid (though obviously unspectacular) teams like OU who are going to be in the 7-11 range but still worthy of a bid.

For the record, I don't think we are anywhere near a lock at 6-12. I desperately want us to get that seventh B12 win. I said on here long ago, well before I created this post, that we were a mortal lock at 7-11. If we leave it up the committee at 6-12 then all bets are off IMO, especially if a Wofford or a Buffalo loses in Championship Week.

Agree. And also, anyone calling it a loophole needs to look up the definition of that word. The committee made a conscious decision to not include conference record in the equation. That's not a loophole. It's also not a loophole that they won't consider our record against the top half of the league, since that's something that no one outside this board has ever mentioned.
 
With bigger and bigger conf and more and more conf games. This was a predictable and inevitable result.
 
We’ll agree to disagree. I ‘m glad that if one team makes it in the Dance with a 6-12 / 0-10 record, it will be OU.

What “loophole”?

OU isn’t going to have a single Q3 or Q4 loss on the season.
And their number of combined Q1 and Q2 wins is one of the highest of all the bubble teams.

Are you complaining when CFB teams get into bowl games with 3-6 conference records? What is the difference?

Well, there is one difference for this OU team is that their overall SOS is going to finish in the top 10.
 
Guys, please don't shoot the messenger. On ESPN's site this morning, they list the teams who are a lock, teams who "should be in" and teams with "work to do". When reading what they say about OU, Texas and TCU, they can't help but talk about conference record. I just don't think you are going to see teams get in the Dance with horrific conference records after this year.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/25923557/quad-1-wins-mean
 
http://www.bracketmatrix.com/

Has us as a 9 seed and has 12 at large teams behind us at the moment. All signs point to us being in as long as we beat either osu or WVU in Kansas City. We win one or both this week almost 100% a lock
 
Guys, please don't shoot the messenger. On ESPN's site this morning, they list the teams who are a lock, teams who "should be in" and teams with "work to do". When reading what they say about OU, Texas and TCU, they can't help but talk about conference record. I just don't think you are going to see teams get in the Dance with horrific conference records after this year.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/25923557/quad-1-wins-mean

They won't do anything about it because there is no way with a straight face you can say Oregon State, UCLA, Utah, USC, Colorado, Oregon, Stanford, or Arizona should be in over us this year and they all have at least 8 conference wins. The bubble is very weak this year, not OU's fault. It will be an outlier, but not because of any rule change. Most years the bubble is much stronger and a 6-12 conference record wont cut it.
 
Guys, please don't shoot the messenger. On ESPN's site this morning, they list the teams who are a lock, teams who "should be in" and teams with "work to do". When reading what they say about OU, Texas and TCU, they can't help but talk about conference record. I just don't think you are going to see teams get in the Dance with horrific conference records after this year.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/25923557/quad-1-wins-mean

espn has been talking about this for 3+ years they don't get a say
 
yesterdays bracket from ESPN OU is a 10 seed ... but we are not among the last 8 teams in NC state TCU Minnesota and Bama are the last 4 byes

and St johns Seton Hall ASU and Temple are the last 4 in
 
yesterdays bracket from ESPN OU is a 10 seed ... but we are not among the last 8 teams in NC state TCU Minnesota and Bama are the last 4 byes

and St johns Seton Hall ASU and Temple are the last 4 in

A 10 seed in Tulsa! Haha
 
Definitely a mistake for any site to suggest we could play in Tulsa, although most bracket projections focus more on seed and pay little attention to location. We are currently back up to a 9 in Bracket Matrix.
 
How many total wins does OU if they played in the AAC this year? 24? 25? 26?
 
How many total wins does OU if they played in the AAC this year? 24? 25? 26?

I wouldn't go that high -- Houston, Cincy, UCF, and Temple are all good teams. But that conference has two or three awful teams at the bottom. Safe to say we would already be beyond 20 wins, though. Arguably, the American is better than the Pac 10 this year.
 
I wouldn't go that high -- Houston, Cincy, UCF, and Temple are all good teams. But that conference has two or three awful teams at the bottom. Safe to say we would already be beyond 20 wins, though. Arguably, the American is better than the Pac 10 this year.

Temple isn’t good.
 
Temple isn’t good.

They are 21-8 and beat Georgia, California, Houston, Missouri. Have some bad losses though, but I wouldn't say they aren't good.

They need to beat UCONN and UCF in their final 2 games, and they will likely get an at-large bid. Ending the season 23-8. This will also get them a bye in their tournament and anything they do there is just gravy, but 23-8 gets them in IMO.
 
They are 21-8 and beat Georgia, California, Houston, Missouri. Have some bad losses though, but I wouldn't say they aren't good.

They need to beat UCONN and UCF in their final 2 games, and they will likely get an at-large bid. Ending the season 23-8. This will also get them a bye in their tournament and anything they do there is just gravy, but 23-8 gets them in IMO.

Kenpom 76th
Sagarin 70th
BPI 70th
 
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