OU vs N. Texas

[sybarite]

No one is asking her to beat Buddy in a game of one on one. But, if she's as good as some think she is, shouldn't we be able to see at least ONE game in which she takes over a game? That's something she has never done in a Sooner uniform. Heck, a few games of 15 pts and 5 rebs would be really nice!

Actually, she did take over a game last year, either against TCU or Texas. If you remember, we had foul problems, and Sherri called to Maddie, sent her into the game, and said for her to take over. She did. Something like about fifteen points, several rebounds, several steals, couple of blocks, several assists.

 

[atlantasooner]

Well if she had "several" rebounds let's make her all big 12 right now.

syb,

You need to go back and read how you have described and pumped up Maddie. You talk about her leading OU to Final Fours. And she's not even led OU in scoring, once.

Sweetest OU Girl
And the Buddy example? You read that to mean Maddie should be competing directly with Buddy Hield?
Maddie needs to excel in the women's game like you know Drob or Whitney pre-injury.

 

[sybarite]

Well if she had "several" rebounds let's make her all big 12 right now.

syb,

You need to go back and read how you have described and pumped up Maddie. You talk about her leading OU to Final Fours. And she's not even led OU in scoring, once.

Sweetest OU Girl
And the Buddy example? You read that to mean Maddie should be competing directly with Buddy Hield?
Maddie needs to excel in the women's game like you know Drob or Whitney pre-injury.

Atlanta. I would think you would have better judgement. Maddie was a reserve last year, overcoming a lot of insecurity about injuries. Yet, she was told to take over a game, and she did.

You can take over a game in a lot of ways. You can score. That's nice. But, great scorers often lose games as well. The reason that some of us really like Maddie is that she can take over a game in many ways. She can turn things.

She stopped the WV, Texas, and TCU press by simply being able to bring the ball up court. If you remember, Gabbi struggled at first. Maddie didn't. The press doesn't bother her. I don't think she ever lost it in the backcourt to a press.

She can take over a game by how she guards someone. She stopped Donohoe for zero points, blocking at least two of her shots, forcing her to back off shots or try to shoot over her long arms.

She took over a TCU game by simply putting pressure on their guards. She blocked shots, and got steals that disrupted the TCU flow. I don't think she ever got the fast break layup off of those. But, she created them.

When WV came back in the tournament, she was the one that put on two moves that reopened the lead when it got to under ten.

Did you notice that she was the third leading shot blocker on the team last year---as a reserve? She got almost as many as Kay Kay.

There are many ways to take over a game. She has taken over the flow of several. You just seem to notice scoring.

 

[atlantasooner]

syb,
Go re read your preseason expectations on Manning. Your comments.
You said that Manning could lead OU to Final Fours.
I said after one game that expectation seems way off.

You can spin her previous contributions however, you want. I never said she wasn't a valuable
player or a key contributor. Or could be a good player.

I just said that she's not shown "it". Now you can either understand that comment and move on or continue flailing away at it.
Proving that you really don't get "it" because you don't really understand what I'm talking about.
And you don't really understand the difference between potential and production.
And a good player and an elite player.

 

[Stringmusic]

Losing to Arkansas last year was a head scratcher. This NT loss is a real head scratcher. I doubt we will see it repeated and hopefully we learn from it. Time to move on.

 

[inoref]

SC isn't going to out X&O some of these coaches and she struggles recruiting top notch talent. I really don't know what the answer is...

 

[SoonerNorm]

syb,
Go re read your preseason expectations on Manning. Your comments.
You said that Manning could lead OU to Final Fours.
I said after one game that expectation seems way off.

You can spin her previous contributions however, you want. I never said she wasn't a valuable
player or a key contributor. Or could be a good player.

I just said that she's not shown "it". Now you can either understand that comment and move on or continue flailing away at it.
Proving that you really don't get "it" because you don't really understand what I'm talking about.
And you don't really understand the difference between potential and production.
And a good player and an elite player.

Atlanta, he has done this ever since Maddie got here. Now he has to make stuff up just so he doesn't have to admit that he was wrong. I don't see his post anymore unless someone quotes him but I do know his love fest with Maddie will be around long after she's gone. I also know he will never admit he was wrong.

All we know about Maddie is she is a good athlete with potential but she is not a great basketball player. You described her as a roll player which is exactly what she is. Can you imagine the comments Syb would be saying about Maddie if she played for Baylor or Texas?!?! It would be something like, "She is averaging 7 pts and 1 rebound per game, she would be a ball girl if she was at OU!"

 

[Soonerb36]

Atlanta, he has done this ever since Maddie got here. Now he has to make stuff up just so he doesn't have to admit that he was wrong. I don't see his post anymore unless someone quotes him but I do know his love fest with Maddie will be around long after she's gone. I also know he will never admit he was wrong.

All we know about Maddie is she is a good athlete with potential but she is not a great basketball player. You described her as a roll player which is exactly what she is. Can you imagine the comments Syb would be saying about Maddie if she played for Baylor or Texas?!?! It would be something like, "She is averaging 7 pts and 1 rebound per game, she would be a ball girl if she was at OU!"

+1

 

[Sweetest OU Girl]

Boy you guys are hard on Maddie. She is one of our starters. Why in the world do you insist on being so disrespectful toward her. Go back and read some of the comments.

All I know is she was highly recruited (many of you claim that is the key to National Championships) and she has suffered TWO injuries that would likely end the career of many players - but she has persevered and is now starting. That impresses me. And makes me respect the world out of her. Find someone else to criticize for a while.

And I was not the one comparing Maddie to Buddy. You guys did. It was a foolish comparison to make - and that was my point. Compare her to Drob if you want. But every time you do, include that Drob was never injured - much less twice.

 

[SoonerNorm]

Boy you guys are hard on Maddie. She is one of our starters. Why in the world do you insist on being so disrespectful toward her. Go back and read some of the comments.

All I know is she was highly recruited (many of you claim that is the key to National Championships) and she has suffered TWO injuries that would likely end the career of many players - but she has persevered and is now starting. That impresses me. And makes me respect the world out of her. Find someone else to criticize for a while.

And I was not the one comparing Maddie to Buddy. You guys did. It was a foolish comparison to make - and that was my point. Compare her to Drob if you want. But every time you do, include that Drob was never injured - much less twice.

The real question is why all of the comments that are way over the top? I'm very glad we have Maddie. But, even you want to compare her to DRob which is not reasonable. DRob was one of the best players in Sooner history.

 

[sybarite]

The real question is why all of the comments that are way over the top? I'm very glad we have Maddie. But, even you want to compare her to DRob which is not reasonable. DRob was one of the best players in Sooner history.

She did not say that she wanted to compare her to DRob. She said that you could compare her to DRob if you wished, but not to Buddy.

 

[tycat947]

Boy you guys are hard on Maddie. She is one of our starters. Why in the world do you insist on being so disrespectful toward her. Go back and read some of the comments.

All I know is she was highly recruited (many of you claim that is the key to National Championships) and she has suffered TWO injuries that would likely end the career of many players - but she has persevered and is now starting. That impresses me. And makes me respect the world out of her. Find someone else to criticize for a while.

And I was not the one comparing Maddie to Buddy. You guys did. It was a foolish comparison to make - and that was my point. Compare her to Drob if you want. But every time you do, include that Drob was never injured - much less twice.

Unfortunately, this is a common occurrence over the history of this women's board. In the past, we've had parents and family members come to this board and post and then disappear quickly after witnessing player attacks. Doesn't matter if it was disappointing season or Final 4 season, the criticisms are relentless. Even after big wins, some focus on the negative. How miserable they must be! This is collegiate basketball, not WNBA or NFL. It's a wonder that some of these people can survive day to day with all the negativity in their lives! And just like Syb said, there are frequent posters on the men's boards that never visit this board until a loss, and then they come over to pile on.

This is a remarkable phenomenon that I've rarely seen on other boards. The thing is, Sulkey and Karen have loads of room on their bandwagons and these individuals would be much happier there!

 

[sybarite]

Unfortunately, this is a common occurrence over the history of this women's board. In the past, we've had parents and family members come to this board and post and then disappear quickly after witnessing player attacks. Doesn't matter if it was disappointing season or Final 4 season, the criticisms are relentless. Even after big wins, some focus on the negative. How miserable they must be! This is collegiate basketball, not WNBA or NFL. It's a wonder that some of these people can survive day to day with all the negativity in their lives! And just like Syb said, there are frequent posters on the men's boards that never visit this board until a loss, and then they come over to pile on.

This is a remarkable phenomenon that I've rarely seen on other boards. The thing is, Sulkey and Karen have loads of room on their bandwagons and these individuals would be much happier there!

+1

Maybe we should make a list of those who come to complain after a loss, just so we can see their activity.

I notice that a couple are on the men's board complaining about Cousins and Lattin or the fact that we didn't win easily.

 

[SoonerNorm]

Unfortunately, this is a common occurrence over the history of this women's board. In the past, we've had parents and family members come to this board and post and then disappear quickly after witnessing player attacks. Doesn't matter if it was disappointing season or Final 4 season, the criticisms are relentless. Even after big wins, some focus on the negative. How miserable they must be! This is collegiate basketball, not WNBA or NFL. It's a wonder that some of these people can survive day to day with all the negativity in their lives! And just like Syb said, there are frequent posters on the men's boards that never visit this board until a loss, and then they come over to pile on.

This is a remarkable phenomenon that I've rarely seen on other boards. The thing is, Sulkey and Karen have loads of room on their bandwagons and these individuals would be much happier there!

The premise is BS. Everyone is glad Maddie is here. If you want to go on thinking Maddie is an all-conference player, be my guest. She isn't but you certainly can think what you wish. But it shows stupidity to type it on this board. I realize you and Syb want everyone to talk about how great everything is, even after a terrible loss. If you guys like living in a dream world don't expect me to join you. I will continue to comment based on what I see, not what I wish was happening.

 

[sybarite]

The premise is BS. Everyone is glad Maddie is here. If you want to go on thinking Maddie is an all-conference player, be my guest. She isn't but you certainly can think what you wish. But it shows stupidity to type it on this board. I realize you and Syb want everyone to talk about how great everything is, even after a terrible loss. If you guys like living in a dream world don't expect me to join you. I will continue to comment based on what I see, not what I wish was happening.

Sherri says Maddie will be one of the best in the Big Twelve.

Norm says she won't.

Sherri is being inducted into the Hall of Fame..

Any questions?

 

[scrybe]

Unfortunately, this is a common occurrence over the history of this women's board. In the past, we've had parents and family members come to this board and post and then disappear quickly after witnessing player attacks. Doesn't matter if it was disappointing season or Final 4 season, the criticisms are relentless. Even after big wins, some focus on the negative. How miserable they must be! This is collegiate basketball, not WNBA or NFL. It's a wonder that some of these people can survive day to day with all the negativity in their lives! And just like Syb said, there are frequent posters on the men's boards that never visit this board until a loss, and then they come over to pile on.

This is a remarkable phenomenon that I've rarely seen on other boards. The thing is, Sulkey and Karen have loads of room on their bandwagons and these individuals would be much happier there!

Great post, tycat!

Look, our team and our coach(es) do deserve criticism after a performance like the one Monday night. And I'm not sure we should question the loyalty of forum members, even though some of us seem so eager to hurl insults at the players and coaches any time the Sooners lose a game.

But I agree with the above post. Some posters seem to take more joy from a Sooners loss than a win. What happened against NT Monday night (a bad loss to an inferior opponent) in reality happens pretty rarely. It's unlikely we'll witness a stinker of that magnitude the rest of the season.