Press conference

BlackwellSooner said:
Wait until after the Baylor post game is completed and catch Jeff walz's comments! He grinned and said words to the effect that he is gonna wear a sports coat in the future, maybe he won't get hit with a technical foul. He said maybe if he'd have run halfway onto the court and ripped off his sport coat, he'd have gotten away with it!

Hilarious! A couple of very pointed shots at Sulkey Mulkey...
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Yes, those were priceless! AND he's totally right! She's done whatever she wanted for years and tried, and I think, succeeded, to intimidate officials or at least distract them from watching the game and making calls.
 
Somewhere out there, Doris Burke must be lying in a fetal position, bawling her eyes out.
 
The sad thing is, Kim was the nice one of the three.

I have never, ever seen such a sad, despicable display of sportsmanship in my life. It's one thing to be unhappy, complain about calls, be devastated.

It's quite another to exude hate for everyone and everything associated with the game. It's anoter thing to be just effing rude the way Griener and Sims were. It's another thing to appear to be mentally unbalanced and on the edge of murdering anything that stands in front of you. Sims was particularly bad.

They deserve what they got.
 
First, I agree with all the comments about Mulkey's conduct after and during the game. She was completely classless, to the point of being demeaning and essentially saying Louisville didn't deserve to win. Unreal.

now, and it kills me to say this in light of what I just said, but Mulkey is right.

There are drawbacks to the womens game. They don't catch or dribble as strongly as the men, there are normally a lot more turnovers, you don't see the same acrobatic plays in the air etc. But, there is beauty in the game's motion, skill and teamwork that is essentially gone from the boys game. And I, for one, enjoy watching it. However, I am slowing growing weary of it, as it has devolved into the same wrestling match that the boys game has been allowed to become. The A&M, Louisville, West Viriginia, UcLA teams are the growing tread and officiating simply has not checked this as it should. Some might like it, and good for you, but I don't. I think it will kill the game.

In my view, the girls game needs to be different that the boys game to thrive.

Take the Tennessee game, the T player that injured Hook didn't trip, she did something I have never seen before in my life, she literally roll blocked Hook from in front while she was running full speed. But for a late whistle when it was clear that Hook had been injuried, they weren't going to even call a foul on the play. That is and should have been call, at the least, an F1 foul. The girl had been fouling her for 40 feet before the play.

When you eliminate freedom of motion, I think you just diminish the girls game. OK, there is my rant. Sorry.
 
cowboysooner said:
First, I agree with all the comments about Mulkey's conduct after and during the game. She was completely classless, to the point of being demeaning and essentially saying Louisville didn't deserve to win. Unreal.

now, and it kills me to say this in light of what I just said, but Mulkey is right.

There are drawbacks to the womens game. They don't catch or dribble as strongly as the men, there are normally a lot more turnovers, you don't see the same acrobatic plays in the air etc. But, there is beauty in the game's motion, skill and teamwork that is essentially gone from the boys game. And I, for one, enjoy watching it. However, I am slowing growing weary of it, as it has devolved into the same wrestling match that the boys game has been allowed to become. The A&M, Louisville, West Viriginia, UcLA teams are the growing tread and officiating simply has not checked this as it should. Some might like it, and good for you, but I don't. I think it will kill the game.

In my view, the girls game needs to be different that the boys game to thrive.

Take the Tennessee game, the T player that injured Hook didn't trip, she did something I have never seen before in my life, she literally roll blocked Hook from in front while she was running full speed. But for a late whistle when it was clear that Hook had been injuried, they weren't going to even call a foul on the play. That is and should have been call, at the least, an F1 foul. The girl had been fouling her for 40 feet before the play.

When you eliminate freedom of motion, I think you just diminish the girls game. OK, there is my rant. Sorry.
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It's ALL of college basketball. The NCAA/TV networks want the physical play, aka WWA, and then they don't call many fouls during tourney as the free throws will slow down the game and mess up schedule. Officiating in the college game is ATROCIOUS! Period! Has been for quite a few years. I'm sure Dr. James Naismith is rolling in his grave somewhere!
 
cowboysooner said:
First, I agree with all the comments about Mulkey's conduct after and during the game. She was completely classless, to the point of being demeaning and essentially saying Louisville didn't deserve to win. Unreal.

now, and it kills me to say this in light of what I just said, but Mulkey is right.

There are drawbacks to the womens game. They don't catch or dribble as strongly as the men, there are normally a lot more turnovers, you don't see the same acrobatic plays in the air etc. But, there is beauty in the game's motion, skill and teamwork that is essentially gone from the boys game. And I, for one, enjoy watching it. However, I am slowing growing weary of it, as it has devolved into the same wrestling match that the boys game has been allowed to become. The A&M, Louisville, West Viriginia, UcLA teams are the growing tread and officiating simply has not checked this as it should. Some might like it, and good for you, but I don't. I think it will kill the game.

In my view, the girls game needs to be different that the boys game to thrive.

Take the Tennessee game, the T player that injured Hook didn't trip, she did something I have never seen before in my life, she literally roll blocked Hook from in front while she was running full speed. But for a late whistle when it was clear that Hook had been injuried, they weren't going to even call a foul on the play. That is and should have been call, at the least, an F1 foul. The girl had been fouling her for 40 feet before the play.

When you eliminate freedom of motion, I think you just diminish the girls game. OK, there is my rant. Sorry.
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If the NCAA doesn't start demanding that the officials do their jobs correctly - enforce the rules as they are written, someone is going to be injured seriously - and I don't mean a knee, ankle or shoulder injury. The UConn player who was body blocked out of bounds by the Maryland player was very fortunate that she wasn't injured. Yesterday, it was a concussion for Morgan. In the LSU game yesterday, one of their players was wearing a soccer helmet due to a concussion she suffered a couple of games ago. There is only one entity that can fix this problem and unfortunately, they don't seem to care.
 
Typically, I root for the Big 12 teams in tournament play; except the Baylor women's team. I've liked and respected some of their players, but cannot like Mulkey no matter how hard I try. Her persona and actions are like nails on a chalkboard to me so I find myself rather pleased with the outcome of the game last night :)
 
Well, you guys are right generally in that the game is too physical. In fact, there were points of emphasis about that, and interfering with freedom of movement, made before the season began. Evidently they only had minimal impact. I think the outcry is growing, and we will see more general movement away from excessive contact in the women's game at least.

You are wrong in blaming the NCAA. The NCAA doesn't hire and control the officials; the individual conferences do. This is a problem, because the officials (even though most of them work multiple conferences), try to accommodate what each conference seems to want, and they are not the same. The people from West Virginia will be very quick to tell you that the Big East plays with more contact than the Big 12. And some conferences review and critique their officials while others don't. This is a function that needs to be taken over by the NCAA, so that there can be national standards and accountability.

Cowboy Sooner, I saw the play that Hook got injured on differently than you. Hook faked Simmons out of her shoes with one of the best crossover moves I've ever seen, and Simmons literally fell over trying to change direction; unfortunately right into Morgan's path.
 
I also think the game is too physical. But, I have noticed that when we are the one being physical, we call it great defense. Jo is a very physical player. Sharane dishes it out as well. We even saw some physical play from Griffin in a few games. Physical is physical regardless of who is doing it.

Personally, I think what we are seeing IS the future of the game. We have seen it for a few years (Leah, Courtney, Caton, etc were very physical players). Now, more coaches/teams are figuring out, you either get physical or you get pushed around. I noticed that Williams and Edwards are portrayed as very good defensive players. I suspect that means they will get up close and personal, which most would call physical. I think if you asked Sherri, she would tell you that she wants players to be all over the offensive player. Some are better at it than others. When you have a player like Jo who is very physical, a coach has to let them play with their natural instinct until fouls become a problem. Getting them to back off can be a challenge at times.

If you are concerned about what you see in college women's basketball, you likely will not like what the future holds. I think within 5 years, many more teams will be playing playing very physical ball. Kelvin's teams were as physical as you will find. You will soon see some women's coaches trying to emulate that type of defense.
 
SoonerNorm said:
I also think the game is too physical. But, I have noticed that when we are the one being physical, we call it great defense. Jo is a very physical player. Sharane dishes it out as well. We even saw some physical play from Griffin in a few games. Physical is physical regardless of who is doing it.

Personally, I think what we are seeing IS the future of the game. We have seen it for a few years (Leah, Courtney, Caton, etc were very physical players). Now, more coaches/teams are figuring out, you either get physical or you get pushed around. I noticed that Williams and Edwards are portrayed as very good defensive players. I suspect that means they will get up close and personal, which most would call physical. I think if you asked Sherri, she would tell you that she wants players to be all over the offensive player. Some are better at it than others. When you have a player like Jo who is very physical, a coach has to let them play with their natural instinct until fouls become a problem. Getting them to back off can be a challenge at times.

If you are concerned about what you see in college women's basketball, you likely will not like what the future holds. I think within 5 years, many more teams will be playing playing very physical ball. Kelvin's teams were as physical as you will find. You will soon see some women's coaches trying to emulate that type of defense.
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Norm, all of your observations are correct. Yes, good players will find out what the limits are, and play to those limits (which is why what they want from referees is consistency). I do think that there is a general consensus at least in the women's game that there should be less interference with freedom of movement. I think the trend will be away from contact for the next several years.
 
The Louisville-Baylor game was difficult to officiate.

Having said that, officiating in women's basketball is way behind the quality of play. Even the officials that call the final Four are really bad. I'm not sure of the answer but something needs to be done.
 
SoonerNorm said:
I also think the game is too physical. But, I have noticed that when we are the one being physical, we call it great defense. Jo is a very physical player. Sharane dishes it out as well. We even saw some physical play from Griffin in a few games. Physical is physical regardless of who is doing it.

Personally, I think what we are seeing IS the future of the game. We have seen it for a few years (Leah, Courtney, Caton, etc were very physical players). Now, more coaches/teams are figuring out, you either get physical or you get pushed around. I noticed that Williams and Edwards are portrayed as very good defensive players. I suspect that means they will get up close and personal, which most would call physical. I think if you asked Sherri, she would tell you that she wants players to be all over the offensive player. Some are better at it than others. When you have a player like Jo who is very physical, a coach has to let them play with their natural instinct until fouls become a problem. Getting them to back off can be a challenge at times.

If you are concerned about what you see in college women's basketball, you likely will not like what the future holds. I think within 5 years, many more teams will be playing playing very physical ball. Kelvin's teams were as physical as you will find. You will soon see some women's coaches trying to emulate that type of defense.
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I said it before and I said it again. If the NCAA doesn't demand that the officials call the game as the rules are written, someone is going to sustain a serious, life-altering injury. On the play where Morgan was injured, entirely too much physical contact by the Tennessee player was allowed prior to the Tennessee player falling down and tripping Morgan. Had the foul been called when it should have been called - no concussion for Morgan. The players and coaches are going to push the envelope as far as the officials will allow them to. We all bemoan the number of knee injuries in the women's game. But, the increased number of concussions is alarming.

Basketball is a beautiful game when the officials enforce the rules as they are written. No one that loves the game wants it to resemble rollerball, which is the direction some people want to take it.
 
35TangoTango said:
Well, you guys are right generally in that the game is too physical. In fact, there were points of emphasis about that, and interfering with freedom of movement, made before the season began. Evidently they only had minimal impact. I think the outcry is growing, and we will see more general movement away from excessive contact in the women's game at least.
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I think the outcry is growing in men's as well. I think I posted a link to an article recently that had some quotes from Lon Kruger and other Big 12 coaches stating the officiating really needed to be upgraded. Officiating is terrible in college basketball, period.

I don't really see how the NCAA couldn't be involved somehow in how games are called, especially in the tourney as all games in the tourney, men's and women's, are allowed to be more physical that even the regular season. Teams have learned through games that you have to get physical back or you get the crap beat out of you, ala A&M. I think it's more survival of the fittest (or most physical)! I don't know that many coaches want to get more physical but they feel they have to to survive.
 
MsProudSooner said:
I said it before and I said it again. If the NCAA doesn't demand that the officials call the game as the rules are written, someone is going to sustain a serious, life-altering injury. On the play where Morgan was injured, entirely too much physical contact by the Tennessee player was allowed prior to the Tennessee player falling down and tripping Morgan. Had the foul been called when it should have been called - no concussion for Morgan. The players and coaches are going to push the envelope as far as the officials will allow them to. We all bemoan the number of knee injuries in the women's game. But, the increased number of concussions is alarming.

Basketball is a beautiful game when the officials enforce the rules as they are written. No one that loves the game wants it to resemble rollerball, which is the direction some people want to take it.
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:clap:clap:clap
 
I just watched the Baylor press conference and was thoroughly disappointed. The media tweets last night led me to believe that there was more drama than there was. It was like the press was afraid to ask Skeletor anything, lest she rip off her jacket again or some sh!t
 
tycat947 said:
I think the outcry is growing in men's as well. I think I posted a link to an article recently that had some quotes from Lon Kruger and other Big 12 coaches stating the officiating really needed to be upgraded. Officiating is terrible in college basketball, period.

I don't really see how the NCAA couldn't be involved somehow in how games are called, especially in the tourney as all games in the tourney, men's and women's, are allowed to be more physical that even the regular season. Teams have learned through games that you have to get physical back or you get the crap beat out of you, ala A&M. I think it's more survival of the fittest (or most physical)! I don't know that many coaches want to get more physical but they feel they have to to survive.
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It can't be a coincidence that there were so many games where the officials swallowed their whistles in the first half, only to find them again in the second half.
 
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