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[thebigabd]

You do know that words have meanings, yes? "Literally" means "actually true, not figuratively so" so you were wrong about us "literally" finishing last in recent years.

Yes, and when I said that I thought OU had finished last. Turns out it was next to last a few times, so I was wrong, but when I used the word "literally" it was accurate usage because I thought we were 10th.

Similarly, "finishing in the cellar," when used to discuss the standings for sports teams, means finishing in last place. OU has NOT finished in the cellar in recent memory (so you're "again" doesn't apply) and the Sooners are NOT predicted to finish in last place this season. Are you simply unable to compose a truthful response?

That is how you took it... It is a figure of speech for "at or near the bottom" to me... That was clear given context.

And there weren't "many people" who posted about a 1-point win against UTSA -- there was one: me.

Who says I was referring only to people on this forum?

My general approach to any game, in any sport, is "just win." Give me the victory and let's move on. But that especially applies to early season games with such an inexperienced team and even more so when one of our best players, one of only three returning from last season, is being held out of the game and still yet more so when we're playing a team that's picked to finish second in Conference USA.

A fine opinion.

That's the most truthful thing you've ever posted on this board.

You are grouchy.

 

[vbdad]

2017-18 we finished sixth in the conference. It’s not 9th as stated. We were seeded 9th in the tournament but it was a tie for 6th in the standings.

It was a horrible finish to the year. The only year we finish outright 9th our best player developed a serious mental illness. I’ll give them a break.

 

[skyvue]

UTSA is good, potentially a tourney team. One would expect that missing your best player and adding 6 new players in the top 9 could potentially mean a slow start.

Thanks for the sanity and the helpful reminder.

 

[oudna]

I thought the term “cellar” meant last place.

I’m not sure people from Oklahoma are qualified to talk about cellars.

 

[skyvue]

I thought the term “cellar” meant last place.

It does. You could ask 1,000 sports fans what it means and they'd all say "last place."

 

[pnkranger]

I think it does mean "last place" but could loosely be interpreted to mean "bottom floor."

If you've got two or three teams at 2-16, 3-15, 4-14, I think you could safely call them all in the basement. 9th place and one game out of 5th is not the cellar though.

 

[thebigabd]

Skyvue is just arguing semantics at this point.... In a 10 team league if you finish 7th, 8th, 9th, 9th, etc it is perfectly acceptable to say you have been in the cellar of your league. It's a phrase. It doesn't mean exactly anything.

I guess skyvue would prefer the following:

"They have been in the stairwell that leads downward to the cellar, but aren't in the cellar"

Or, perhaps "they are on the 1st floor, but not in the basement"

"If they were on an elevator, going down, they would be between the 1st floor and the basement".

Perhaps those characterizations would make him happy? I don't know.

Actually, It would probably make more sense to simply state it cleanly and not use common phrases so he can't play these little games he likes to play when he is grouchy. In the future, I will try to be more mindful of how skyvue interprets information and communicate accordingly.

 

[Eielson]

Wow...a bunch of morons on this post! So some of you want the bottom SIX players to transfer...even though you have basically seen them play practically ZERO times??!!

Some of you equate to some of the football morons on the rivals site!! And that isn’t anything to be proud of!!

Six is a little extreme, but I'd be okay with the bottom 3-4 players transferring every year. The key is figuring out who the bottom 3-4 players actually are. Calling out specific players is much more difficult to do.

 

[BCSooners]

There’s only 1 player on scholarship that I don’t think will ever contribute, if that happens then that’s really good.

I’m glad to use 1-2 scholarships on boom or bust projects. You can only play 7-9 in meaningful games so:

9 contributors
2 close to contributing
1-2 projects
0-1 gpa pumpers

 

[skyvue]

In the future, I will try to be more mindful of how skyvue interprets information and communicate accordingly.

Clean, clear, precise prose is always appreciated, but I won't hold my breath. And if I'm grouchy, it's because I'm fed up with your consistent ragging on the team and the program, even now when the team hasn't played a single regulation game this season. Preemptive whining is just stupid; they'll be plenty of time for that if and when the team underperforms.

And let's continue with the semantics, shall we? When you criticize "this staff," as you did above, you're living in the past. Two out of our three assistant coaches are new to OU -- that's 66% percent turnover. How about we give the new guys a chance to show what they can do?