Selection Sunday with reactions

[SoonerBounce13]

I never knew the committee only factored in nonhome games to their decisions lol

 

[hoopsaustin]

That’s not even a debate. Being meh in a good conference is much better than being good in a meh conference

So says you. We will see. I dont care about debates or anything at this point, i just want in and not in a play in game

 

[hoopsaustin]

You randomly used seedings and not NET. Goalposts much?

OU 5 best wins and losses by NET:

6 Iowa State (H)
12 BYU (H)
37 Cincy (H)
37 Cincy (A)
57 Providence (N)

FAU 5 best wins:

4 Arizona (N)
45 Texas A&M (N)
60 Va Tech (N)
65 SMU (H)
75 Memphis (H)

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OU 5 worst losses:

61 UCF (A)
42 TCU (A)
42 TCU (H)
30 Texas (H)
28 Texas Tech (H)

FAU 5 worst losses:

246 FGCC (A)
187 Temple (N)
164 Bryant (H)
114 Charlotte (A)
105 UAB (A)

Is that better?

This has convinced me beyond belief for OU here. Looks not even close this way

 

[WTSooner]

Simple question: Do you contend that OU's 5 wins and 5 losses are better than FAU's?

I've said for WEEKS that I don't care about the losses.

There are no Q4 teams in the tourney, so I do I care if a team lost to them? This is a single elimination tournament. To advance/win a NC, you have to be able to beat really good teams on neutral sites. Regular season neutral site and road success is a pretty good barometer of that. FAU, and most of the bubble teams we're up against, have done better at that. And it doesn't have to be a quantity issue. More Q1 games should have given OU a chance to have more Q1 wins. We don't. Q1 winning percentage. Look at that. That is telling. So FAU has played down to their opponents some this year. They had more opportunities to do so. Same argument with OU football losing as favorites too often. When you are the favorite in literally every game you play except sometimes the RRR game, of course you are going to lose some games you were favored to win, unless you never lose.

But back to the point, FAU's neutral/away game success, against NCAA Tournament level teams, is why they belong above us.

 

[bearcreekfan]

You want to exclude neutral site games in an argument over who should make the NCAA Tournament, which, by the way.....wait for it, is played at neutral site locations?

lol

TEvans is owning (has owned) you in this argument. You chose to only use certain facts to start (e.g. didn't even point out FAU's bad losses, of which OU has none) and then stated that he did the same...rich. He used different facts, but you called him out...so, he used a broader selection of yours, e.g. top 5 for each, and still owned you. Now it just looks like your arguing for the sake of argument.

 

[WTSooner]

My hypothetical would be this...

How would this year's OU team fare in the AAC?

How would this year's FAU team fare in the Big 12?

OU would likely win the AAC. Where would FAU be? I would guess middle-to-bottom of the B12.

You can't use hypotheticals so it's whatever...my eyes tell me this year's FAU team isn't that good (probably watched 8-10 FAU games). If it weren't for their success last year, and their subsequent over-ranking this year, they'd be out.

You do realize that Ken Pom, NET, and other similar systems already take strength of schedule into account, right? And most of these teams are still above us in both, right? Specifically talking about FAU here. We don't have to guess, these systems are doing the measurement for us. It's not perfect, but it's what is in place and what is agreed upon to use. No hypothetical necessary.

 

[bearcreekfan]

I've said for WEEKS that I don't care about the losses.

It's been stated that the committee and other key metrics care about the losses. Why make an argument in a thread about whether OU belongs in the tourney over FAU and only use your random opinion that's not completely relevant?

 

[WTSooner]

TEvans is owning (has owned) you in this argument. You chose to only use certain facts to start (e.g. didn't even point out FAU's bad losses, of which OU has none) and then stated that he did the same...rich. He used different facts, but you called him out...so, he used a broader selection of yours, e.g. top 5 for each, and still owned you. Now it just looks like your arguing for the sake of argument.

Talk to me when your Reaction Score is at least 50.

 

[OUSKINS]

Seth Davis just posted his Final Cut line… has us as the last team in just like Lunardi with St John’s being first team out.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

I've said for WEEKS that I don't care about the losses.

There are no Q4 teams in the tourney, so I do I care if a team lost to them?

wow. Just wow

 

[SoonerBounce13]

You do realize that Ken Pom, NET, and other similar systems already take strength of schedule into account, right? And most of these teams are still above us in both, right? Specifically talking about FAU here. We don't have to guess, these systems are doing the measurement for us. It's not perfect, but it's what is in place and what is agreed upon to use. No hypothetical necessary.

Why even play the games then?

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Talk to me when your Reaction Score is at least 50.

Lol clown post

 

[sooner333]

TEvans is owning (has owned) you in this argument. You chose to only use certain facts to start (e.g. didn't even point out FAU's bad losses, of which OU has none) and then stated that he did the same...rich. He used different facts, but you called him out...so, he used a broader selection of yours, e.g. top 5 for each, and still owned you. Now it just looks like your arguing for the sake of argument.

 

[OUSKINS]

Of all the reputable big network bracket dudes, we are hoping Jerry Palm proves to be the most accurate. He still has us in as a non-play in team facing Wazzou in a 7/10 game. This would obviously be the ideal turnout for us. He’s the only one I can find though from the bigger names that has us in and NOT in Dayton.

 

[StoopsBros]

Fanduel....

updated

 

[StoopsBros]

 

[OUSKINS]

updated

Looks like a lot of people probably jumped on those +400 odds from earlier.

 

[StoopsBros]

tweet is cutoff

 

[WTSooner]

Looks like a lot of people probably jumped on those +400 odds from earlier.

Those were -400 odds. And since they went down, it means people were betting the other side (+290 on the No response).

 

[hoopsaustin]

Of all the reputable big network bracket dudes, we are hoping Jerry Palm proves to be the most accurate. He still has us in as a non-play in team facing Wazzou in a 7/10 game. This would obviously be the ideal turnout for us. He’s the only one I can find though from the bigger names that has us in and NOT in Dayton.

Noooo. Lets just do Palm's bracket then