Should Players Foul Out after 6 Fouls Instead of 5?

[CoachTalk]

lame. Stop fouling.

 

[thebigabd]

lame. Stop fouling.

Except sometimes looking at a Kansas Jayhawk player the wrong way is a foul. They call EVERYTHING. Which brings up some basic logic:

A.) Should we give players more fouls?
B.) Work with the refs to relax the fouls called?

 

[CoachTalk]

Except sometimes looking at a Kansas Jayhawk player the wrong way is a foul. They call EVERYTHING. Which brings up some basic logic:

A.) Should we give players more fouls?
B.) Work with the refs to relax the fouls called?

Neither.

Follow the rules. We've been down this road. Game needs cleaned up.

 

[inoref]

Five fouls are plenty..I think that if one team is ahead by 20pts in the last minute or so and if the team behind fouls..two points should be given to the winning team...Stop some of the pointless fouling

 

[sybarite]

I don't know that enough fouls are called as it is. Is the "defense" that exonerates street muggings on the court useful in delivering scoring to the game? There are certain coaches whose games I simply don't want to see because they have almost nothing to do with putting a basketball through a hoop and everything to do with shoving, grabbing, and physical disruption of the flow of a game.

 

[Sooner04]

I don't know that enough fouls are called as it is. Is the "defense" that exonerates street muggings on the court useful in delivering scoring to the game? There are certain coaches whose games I simply don't want to see because they have almost nothing to do with putting a basketball through a hoop and everything to do with shoving, grabbing, and physical disruption of the flow of a game.

Hey, leave Kelvin out of this.

 

[chuckb]

If players are allowed 6 fouls instead of 5, there will be more fouls committed. Players have less to lose; each foul is less costly to the player and the team. I think the last thing college basketball needs is more fouls committed. The refs are trying to clean it up and allow for more freedom of movement. Adding another foul would add to the contact and slow the game down.

Maybe I'm the only one here old enough to remember when the Big East had a 6 foul rule for conference games. The conference really had some horribly physical, ugly basketball. It was like every team was the Pistons of the "Bad Boys" years. This is the last thing college basketball needs. To keep stars on the court, stars should foul less.

 

[WaymanFan]

Please, no more games being interrupted with incessant whistles blowing. I almost turned off the Duke-Kansas game the other night because the refs apparently wanted to be part of the show. It's simple math: 48 NBA minutes / 6 fouls = 8; 40 college minutes / 5 fouls = 8. Seems fair to me.

 

[MsProudSooner]

Please, no more games being interrupted with incessant whistles blowing. I almost turned off the Duke-Kansas game the other night because the refs apparently wanted to be part of the show. It's simple math: 48 NBA minutes / 6 fouls = 8; 40 college minutes / 5 fouls = 8. Seems fair to me.

The solution to incessant whistles blowing is simple. Stop fouling. Be fundamentally sound.

 

[Sooner24]

Keep it like it is.

 

[campbest]

It's fine like it is, one thing that would also help the game is moving to four quarters and reset the team foul total every period. I expect this change to be instituted next season or in 2019 (rule changes are allowed every two years).

 

[campbest]

I wonder if 'full-time' officials, rather than officials who are part-time insurance agents etc, would help solve this problem.

Most of the top DI basketball officials are essentially full-time, just 1099 employees that don't work for a single conference. Guys routinely working Big XII games are generally working four to five nights a week, sometimes as often as six, when you factor in all conferences. They may have an off-season job, sometimes related to officiating, but during the season it's basketball all the time. Understand it's easy to say "well they are part-time" but the truth is it's not. Many fans would be be shocked how technology has expanded post-game review, critiques, etc.

I can see at the lower D1 or D2 level this being a gripe, but to be fair, those games don't pay enough to make it a full time job. Officials will stay as 1099 employees until the NCAA takes over, which they don't want to do right now. Best guess...we are 10-15 years away from that taking place.

 

[MsProudSooner]

Most of the top DI basketball officials are essentially full-time, just 1099 employees that don't work for a single conference. Guys routinely working Big XII games are generally working four to five nights a week, sometimes as often as six, when you factor in all conferences. They may have an off-season job, sometimes related to officiating, but during the season it's basketball all the time. Understand it's easy to say "well they are part-time" but the truth is it's not. Many fans would be be shocked how technology has expanded post-game review, critiques, etc.

I can see at the lower D1 or D2 level this being a gripe, but to be fair, those games don't pay enough to make it a full time job. Officials will stay as 1099 employees until the NCAA takes over, which they don't want to do right now. Best guess...we are 10-15 years away from that taking place.

Thanks for the info. The last I had heard, which was several years ago, was that most of them had other full time careers. I wonder if the same is true for the officials in the women's games?

 

[campbest]

Thanks for the info. The last I had heard, which was several years ago, was that most of them had other full time careers. I wonder if the same is true for the officials in the women's games?

Football has always been and still is that way. Money has changed everything for basketball, over the last 15 years, wouldn't be shocked to hear the major conferences increased pay 100-200%. SEC pays around $3500/game, currently.