Slightly Off Topic

[dahldennsull]

Why do people keep suggesting Thompson is the answer? Because his dad was so good for OU years ago?

On paper, Kendall Thompson was the worst passer of any QB we currently have at OU, coming out of HS. Most everybody figured he'd move to WR. I promise he is not the long term answer.

Not sure how you can promise anything without seeing him on the field. i think the reason people want to see is because before he got hurt Stoops himself said he was neck and neck with both Bell and Knight in the QB race and was performing well. Why not see what he can do on saturday, especially when you saw how Trevor Knight's running ability could change a game, Kendal has the same and maybe he does better hitting some of the easy passes Trevor couldn't handle?

Everyone asks why call for him, but at this point why not? Prove it on the field if you can or can not play.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Why do people keep suggesting Thompson is the answer? Because his dad was so good for OU years ago?

On paper, Kendall Thompson was the worst passer of any QB we currently have at OU, coming out of HS. Most everybody figured he'd move to WR. I promise he is not the long term answer.

Sam Bradford's stats in HS weren't great.

Supposedly Thompson was clost in the race before getting injured.

He's a dynamic runner. Would just like to give him a shot.

Not sure how you can promise that

 

[SoonerBounce13]

KT
2009 (Jr.)
64.0% 2,793 yards 29TD 8INT

Bradford
59.0% 2,422yards 19TD 15INT

 

[SoonerBounce13]

TK
54.0% 2,092yards 27TD 3INT

BB
66.6% 2,752yards 32TD 5INT

 

[CoachTalk]

Go to landthieves and talk football

 

[bocabull]

OU has won a single BCS game the past decade ... against Uconn. I don't think Stoops has won a single game as an underdog in 10 years. College football is a rigged game with drastic talent disparities. Wins against teams with inferior talent only impress for so long. When you lose virtually every time out against equal talent and a couple times a year against inferior talent you're not an elite coach. Stoops is that guy. I started doubting Stoops after witnessing the 55-19 debacle against USC. Expecting unexpected losses has been the right call on him ever since. It really was always the right call all the way back to losing at home in 2001 to that joke 3-7 okie st team.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

OU has won a single BCS game the past decade ... against Uconn. I don't think Stoops has won a single game as an underdog in 10 years. College football is a rigged game with drastic talent disparities. Wins against teams with inferior talent only impress for so long. When you lose virtually every time out against equal talent and a couple times a year against inferior talent you're not an elite coach. Stoops is that guy. I started doubting Stoops after witnessing the 55-19 debacle against USC. Expecting unexpected losses has been the right call on him ever since. It really was always the right call all the way back to losing at home in 2001 to that joke 3-7 okie st team.

The flaw in this logic is that EVERY team excluding bama fits this description. EVERY SINGLE TEAM. EVERY SINGLE COACH ****s the bed almost every season. I challenge you to find one that doesn't

 

[CoachTalk]

boca... Your life must be awful... the negative stuff you bring almost daily is a great way to live life! Make some changes!

 

[NickZepp]

The flaw in this logic is that EVERY team excluding bama fits this description. EVERY SINGLE TEAM. EVERY SINGLE COACH ****s the bed almost every season. I challenge you to find one that doesn't

Oregon really hasn't the last few years. But we aren't every single team, and should expect more from OU football.

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[skyvue]

Oregon really hasn't the last few years. But we aren't every single team, and should expect more from OU football.

Here are Oregon's losses of the past few seasons (there's a reason they played in only one national title game, you know -- which they lost, btw).

2012: Lost at home to underdog Stanford (the Cardinal was ranked #13, but it was the next-to-last regular-season game and UO was playing for a shot at the national title game--would the likes of Boca be forgiving if OU lost that game? Hell, no.)

2011: Lost to LSU at home (the Tigers were #4, but the fans who rag on Stoops wouldn't accept such a home loss -- ND and KSU were highly ranked last season, too) and unranked USC at home.

2010: Lost to Auburn in title game (need I point out what some Sooner fans would have to say about that?)

2009: Lost to -- wait for it -- Boise St., an unranked Stanford team, and in the Rose Bowl to Ohio State.

2008: Lost to -- wait for it again -- Boise St. (which was unranked at the time), got slaughtered by #9 USC, and lost to unranked Cal.

2007: Lost to unranked Cal, unranked Arizona, unranked UCLA, and unranked Oregon State.

That's the thing -- those fans that rag on Stoops too often don't pay that close attention to what other teams are doing. Has Oregon done better than OU in the past two or three seasons? Yes, but have they done so well that the fans who are *****ing now wouldn't still be *****ing? Not a chance in hell.

 

[NickZepp]

USC was ranked 18

Sent from my galaxy s2

 

[bocabull]

boca... Your life must be awful... the negative stuff you bring almost daily is a great way to live life! Make some changes!

Actually coach, expecting OU to lose is a great way to live. Stress free. While others are shocked & disappointed I'm laughing & totally unsurprised.

Last weekend I was pulling for ASU to beat Notre Dame and an OSU buddy told me OU needed Notre Dame to win to help our computer ranking. I laughed & told him 2-3 loss teams don't worry about their computer ranking. He said the Big 12 was so down there was no way we would lose 2-3. Heck we almost lost to TCU & then a 12 pt underdog UT team in disarray dismantled us in every regard.

Being certain about something does not make you negative. I am certain based on an abundance of evidence that Stoops teams will get outcoached & outplayed (his words) a couple times a year by inferior teams & that unranked recruits without offers from other major programs will almost never contribute in basketball.

 

[skyvue]

USC was ranked 18

ESPN had them unranked, but maybe that was a probation thing. Doesn't much matter -- UO was ranked #4 at the time and they were playing them at home.

Do you suppose the anti-Stoops crowd would have found that loss acceptable, if it'd been an undefeated #4 OU team losing at home to a team ranked #18?

Of course not.

 

[WTSooner]

Here are Oregon's losses of the past few seasons (there's a reason they played in only one national title game, you know -- which they lost, btw).

2012: Lost at home to underdog Stanford (the Cardinal was ranked #13, but it was the next-to-last regular-season game and UO was playing for a shot at the national title game--would the likes of Boca be forgiving if OU lost that game? Hell, no.)

2011: Lost to LSU at home (the Tigers were #4, but the fans who rag on Stoops wouldn't accept such a home loss -- ND and KSU were highly ranked last season, too) and unranked USC at home.

2010: Lost to Auburn in title game (need I point out what some Sooner fans would have to say about that?)

2009: Lost to -- wait for it -- Boise St., an unranked Stanford team, and in the Rose Bowl to Ohio State.

2008: Lost to -- wait for it again -- Boise St. (which was unranked at the time), got slaughtered by #9 USC, and lost to unranked Cal.

2007: Lost to unranked Cal, unranked Arizona, unranked UCLA, and unranked Oregon State.

That's the thing -- those fans that rag on Stoops too often don't pay that close attention to what other teams are doing. Has Oregon done better than OU in the past two or three seasons? Yes, but have they done so well that the fans who are *****ing now wouldn't still be *****ing? Not a chance in hell.

Exactly.

Over the past 15 seasons or so (since Bob's been at OU), only Saban and Meyer has really accomplished more, and been more consistently good.

 

[WaymanFan]

While Boca may be a bit "over-the-top" sometimes with what he says about Bob Stoops, I can't argue that it was a very uninspiring performance in Dallas. Losses can and will happen, but to play so uninspired (not to mention appearing clueless along the way) against your top rival is a head-scratcher for sure. The recruiting has really fallen off the past 6-7 years, so when we don't show up against anything close to equal competition, that will get us a Big 'L' every time.

 

[bocabull]

Look there is no doubt Stoops is way better than average. But after 15 years it's apparent that he's not obsessed on the level of a Nick Saban, Pete Carroll, Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, etc that is required for generational greatness.

I've never advocated getting rid of him. Just expect the worst and you won't be surprised when the unexpected ambushes occur.

 

[skyvue]

While Boca may be a bit "over-the-top" sometimes with what he says about Bob Stoops, I can't argue that it was a very uninspiring performance in Dallas. Losses can and will happen, but to play so uninspired (not to mention appearing clueless along the way) against your top rival is a head-scratcher for sure. The recruiting has really fallen off the past 6-7 years, so when we don't show up against anything close to equal competition, that will get us a Big 'L' every time.

Of course it was a disappointing outing (and that's an understatement); no one's denying that. I was concerned about the game going in because of the local, regional and national press treating it as if we were a sure thing. That's just asking for trouble entering a rivalry game (especially when the players start believing that stuff).

Texas played perhaps their best game in two or three seasons, and they won decisively, there's no denying it. But even with the way they played, the game could have gone differently. But we were beaten in every facet of the game, including attitude and coaching.

I'd love to see how much better the defense would have fared with Phillips and Nelson in the game, but I don't know what could have helped the offense.

If I were a texas fan, I'd be asking where the hell that team's been the past few seasons.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Look there is no doubt Stoops is way better than average. But after 15 years it's apparent that he's not obsessed on the level of a Nick Saban, Pete Carroll, Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, etc that is required for generational greatness.

I've never advocated getting rid of him. Just expect the worst and you won't be surprised when the unexpected ambushes occur.

Do we need to list the loses that Pete Carroll had?

Also funny that these coaches you mention are all pretty shady characters. Do you want stoops to play the games that they do? Is cheating worth championships?

 

[DenverSooner]

Here are Oregon's losses of the past few seasons (there's a reason they played in only one national title game, you know -- which they lost, btw).

2012: Lost at home to underdog Stanford (the Cardinal was ranked #13, but it was the next-to-last regular-season game and UO was playing for a shot at the national title game--would the likes of Boca be forgiving if OU lost that game? Hell, no.)

2011: Lost to LSU at home (the Tigers were #4, but the fans who rag on Stoops wouldn't accept such a home loss -- ND and KSU were highly ranked last season, too) and unranked USC at home.

2010: Lost to Auburn in title game (need I point out what some Sooner fans would have to say about that?)

2009: Lost to -- wait for it -- Boise St., an unranked Stanford team, and in the Rose Bowl to Ohio State.

2008: Lost to -- wait for it again -- Boise St. (which was unranked at the time), got slaughtered by #9 USC, and lost to unranked Cal.

2007: Lost to unranked Cal, unranked Arizona, unranked UCLA, and unranked Oregon State.

That's the thing -- those fans that rag on Stoops too often don't pay that close attention to what other teams are doing. Has Oregon done better than OU in the past two or three seasons? Yes, but have they done so well that the fans who are *****ing now wouldn't still be *****ing? Not a chance in hell.

Exactly. You can do this with every program where our fans claim the team is so much better.

I have actually read people claiming Art Briles has done a better job at Baylor. He has one win against Stoops and one 10 win season. Stoops 10 win season last year and the others in the Landry Jones era have been considered horrific at OU.

For those that say Saban has done substantially better lets take a look: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Saban

Saban has averaged better than 12 wins a season the last 5 years but he has not sustained that for 14 seasons and I doubt he will. His record at LSU for 5 season was worse than Stoops record the last 5 years except he did beat OU in a close game in New Orleans. His record at Michigan State was certainly not outstanding.

At Alabama he has been very fortunate with scheduling. Auburn has been down for the most part. That has left him with an annual game against LSU. I believe he is 3-3 against LSU in the regular season.

OU fans are spoiled.

I edited this to be clear, I am not insulting Saban. He is a great coach and what he has done at Alabama is amazing but if you actually dig a little deeper you will see it is not as remarkable as people think except that he has won the BCS title games.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

I don't think Stoops will be going much longer anyways...he is what mid 50s? He has said he doesn't want to coach til he is too old b/c of his family's heart issues.

Any chance Mike would be given the reigns if Bob retired in a couple of years? Or is he too "wild". God help us if Heuple is named HCIW