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As a vet, I wouldn't miss you.

The fact is, the protest is misguided. A coach is supposed to develop young people. They are entitled to voice their opinion, but not entitled to play. It's that simple really.

Misguided it may be, but it's within their rights.

So you think a coach should only play players who shares their political beliefs? Interesting philosophy of coaching. It doesn't belong at a comprehensive public university.
 
I don't know, SC.

My dad was the greatest vet - and hero - any of us could imagine. As was my uncle.

Highest honors, incredible heroism, laid both their lives on the line for you and all of us.

I often hear them talk about those who seem to demand that everyone agree with their view on this issue - and both agree: What difference does it make?

If it bothers someone - just don't look at the person who frustrates you. It is impossible to make the entire world do exactly what we want. Pick your fights where they matter. My guess is the girls are probably not even thinking about it. I am at virtually every game - and to be honest with you, I have never noticed it. I am looking at the flag and honoring my country personally. Who knows, possibly the girls are thinking about how much they love their country and the words of the song.

Should we let it make us angry if someone doesn't close their eyes during a prayer? God is much more important than a country.
 
As a vet, I wouldn't miss you.

The fact is, the protest is misguided. A coach is supposed to develop young people. They are entitled to voice their opinion, but not entitled to play. It's that simple really.

I'm a vet, and I support their right to do so. The flag is not important as a piece of cloth. It is important as the principles of liberty for which it stands. One of those liberties is the right to protest. In some respects, this is similar to the Smith/Carlos protests at the Olympics. People feel that they need to make a statement. I am against the prevention of their right to make that statement.

I get physicals at the VA twice a year. There must be a thousand vets there every day representing every branch of the service, some as far back as Korea, not a lot of WWII any more. They have varied political opinions, but they all respect each other's rights and opinions since they all served.
 
I'm a vet, and I support their right to do so. The flag is not important as a piece of cloth. It is important as the principles of liberty for which it stands. One of those liberties is the right to protest. In some respects, this is similar to the Smith/Carlos protests at the Olympics. People feel that they need to make a statement. I am against the prevention of their right to make that statement.

I get physicals at the VA twice a year. There must be a thousand vets there every day representing every branch of the service, some as far back as Korea, not a lot of WWII any more. They have varied political opinions, but they all respect each other's rights and opinions since they all served.

Thank you!
 
You are correct, but it all falls on Coale. She is the final say on signing players.

Very much so. And she pulls a few surprises on the assistant coaches with her last minute removal of girls from their target list.
 
Perhaps Sherri agrees with George Takei:



The First Amendment gives them the right to stand with their hands at their side. i couldn't support a coach or university that tried to usurp First Amendment rights.

I too agree with George Takai's statement. But a team is about team and it is Sherri's right to demand her players honor the flag in the prescribed manner as a representative of team uniformity and of the university. For those that choose not to comply it is their right to leave the team and move on.

It is also Sherri's right to ask them to move on if they do not want to comply and be team member. Team membership is voluntary. Compliance with team rules is mandatory. Required compliance with team rules does not usurp First Amendment rights. Still the players option. They are deprived of nothing.
 
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What's wrong is the three butts on the bench who don't wear uniforms. They have downgraded the recruits every year for the laste five or Six. The game changed and they just have not been able to bring in enough girls who play modern basketball. Great citizens, good students, graduate and give of their time for others, if that is all you want from them, we're number one.

No question Sherri's profile for potential recruits has not changed with the changes in the game. And until she targets getting top nationally ranked players on a consistent basis she is not going to consistently compete for conference or national honors. She has not won the conference regular season championship since 2009 nor the tournament championship since 2007.

For a coach to have that level of perfomance and be paid in excess of a million dollars Sherri is definitely under performing. She needs to get better players and win more games. If she is going to declare the Sooners as a member of WBB's elite she needs to get the Sooners to once again perform at an elite level. This is not going to happen overnight so we as fans need to show some patience but progress can be expected to begin now.

If she cannot get the job done then get someone who can. If it can be done in Waco, TX it can be done in Norman, OK again.
 
I too agree with George Takai's statement. But a team is about team and it is Sherri's right to demand her players honor the flag in the prescribed manner as a representative of team uniformity and of the university. For those that choose not to comply it is their right to leave the team and move on.

It is also Sherri's right to ask them to move on if they do not want to comply and be team member. Team membership is voluntary. Compliance with team rules is mandatory. Required compliance with team rules does not usurp First Amendment rights. Still the players option. They are deprived of nothing.
Do you think that Sherri would refuse to grant a player the right to protest?
 
No question Sherri's profile for potential recruits has not changed with the changes in the game. And until she targets getting top nationally ranked players on a consistent basis she is not going to consistently compete for conference or national honors. She has not won the conference regular season championship since 2009 nor the tournament championship since 2007.

For a coach to have that level of perfomance and be paid in excess of a million dollars Sherri is definitely under performing. She needs to get better players and win more games. If she is going to declare the Sooners as a member of WBB's elite she needs to get the Sooners to once again perform at an elite level. This is not going to happen overnight so we as fans need to show some patience but progress can be expected to begin now.

If she cannot get the job done then get someone who can. If it can be done in Waco, TX it can be done in Norman, OK again.
When you bring up the idea that it can be done in Waco, you invalidate your entire argument.
 
I'm a vet, and I support their right to do so. The flag is not important as a piece of cloth. It is important as the principles of liberty for which it stands. One of those liberties is the right to protest. In some respects, this is similar to the Smith/Carlos protests at the Olympics. People feel that they need to make a statement. I am against the prevention of their right to make that statement.

I get physicals at the VA twice a year. There must be a thousand vets there every day representing every branch of the service, some as far back as Korea, not a lot of WWII any more. They have varied political opinions, but they all respect each other's rights and opinions since they all served.

YEP! This vet agrees
 
I too agree with George Takai's statement. But a team is about team and it is Sherri's right to demand her players honor the flag in the prescribed manner as a representative of team uniformity and of the university. For those that choose not to comply it is their right to leave the team and move on.

It is also Sherri's right to ask them to move on if they do not want to comply and be team member. Team membership is voluntary. Compliance with team rules is mandatory. Required compliance with team rules does not usurp First Amendment rights. Still the players option. They are deprived of nothing.

As the head coach, Sherri is certainly within her rights to make demands on players ... and recognizing that a team and university setting encourages players/students to express his/her opinion in a peaceful way ... perhaps she's made the demand that players respect differing points of view.

So the university and/or Sherri have the right to establish and enforce team rules, but apparently the university and/or Sherri do not feel any players to be in violation of any team or university rules.
 
Coaches are responsible for recruiting and developing. Ours are well paid. They've been together for a long time. I find it OU long that there'/ no emotion or energy shown in this group of coaches.

I have felt for some time that the culture in the program is too soft. Conditioning, especially with theist players has been an issue for a decade. From 2000 to 2010, we had 3 point shooters and guards who made layups, even very difficult ones. Not the case now.

At the risk of being slammed, I'd add that Sherri doesn't do Edwards or Williams any favors by permitting them to stand with their arms to their side during the national anthem. As John Wooden put it, I can'5 make you do the right thing, but I don'5 have to play you. The fact that they can behave this way with no discouragement tells me the coach lacks control.

After games, I've heard Sherri blame herself or offer excuses. I come. Away feeling the expectations aren't very high. Before the session, she raved about how much fun it was watching this team grow since last year. Well, I don't see the growth. In all candor, I think ORU had 2 Oklahoma girls who could start for OU.

I agree that it looks like Sherri is experimenting with all the players. But in all honesty, she knows who her performers are.

I doubt we have a player on this team who would start on any team we had from 2000-2010. Sherri built a great program, but it's not like that anymore.

I for one think your a little out of line if you think Sherri shouldn't play Williams and Edwards for standing up for that they believe...
 
About time for the annual "players only" meeting. Those always accomplish a lot!! Ever wonder why we always seem to need one?
 
About time for the annual "players only" meeting. Those always accomplish a lot!! Ever wonder why we always seem to need one?
It is possible that it is because it is the players who must define the leadership and responsibilities. At some universities, they may name a captain or leader, but the only captain is the coach.
 
Very much so. And she pulls a few surprises on the assistant coaches with her last minute removal of girls from their target list.

i have seen this accusation on the board before SS...what exactly do you mean by this statement?
 
I cannot speak for Sherri but it is my opinion that her team is in a game representing the university and is not a form to support a individual protest. To do so would be considered by not all some as Sherri and the university supports her actions. I think that is wrong.
 
I cannot speak for Sherri but it is my opinion that her team is in a game representing the university and is not a form to support a individual protest. To do so would be considered by not all some as Sherri and the university supports her actions. I think that is wrong.

I don't think you quite have the idea of what a university is.
 
I really don't care one way or the other what the girls did or did not do. That's on them, all I care about if SC is doing her job the best she can or the best it can be done. In that I do not think she (Sherri ) is doing so. Maybe the players have lost respect to her and do what they want?
 
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As the head coach, Sherri is certainly within her rights to make demands on players ... and recognizing that a team and university setting encourages players/students to express his/her opinion in a peaceful way ... perhaps she's made the demand that players respect differing points of view.

So the university and/or Sherri have the right to establish and enforce team rules, but apparently the university and/or Sherri do not feel any players to be in violation of any team or university rules.

Obviously. I too support strongly the right to protest and would fight to maintain that right. But I do not support the display of that protest when in a uniform representing the basketball team and the university.

Now I am not saying that anyone on the WBB team was protesting anything. However, Were I the coach there would be in place a team rule that all players will stand at attention with hand over their heart throughout the playing of the national anthem. The players would further know that failure to do so would be considered a team rules violation with consequences. That us is the image of uniformity I would want my team to represent.

I feel strongly that the protests should be made as an individual or as a member of a protest group. To make a protest in the uniform of an entity that does not share your protest view is to potentially impose negative connotations toward that entity. I think that is wrong.

Just as I would if a member of the armed services in uniform failed to respond appropriately during the national anthem. That is my opinion as a veteran and an American. And I am equally entitled to that opinion.
 
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