Spangler and Bookout

[BigTime]

Anyone else see some comparisons there?

Book had a much more polished offensive game around the block and was stronger at this point in his career and Ryan appears to be able to jump a little higher and maybe run the floor better. That said, I can see the same type of basketball IQ when it comes to knowing how to rebound and having the desire to rebound in terms of angles and reading the ball as it comes off the shooter's hand.

I sure am glad Spangler is coming here. He will make this team better in practice next season on the glass.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

is spangler that big?

 

[BigTime]

is spangler that big?

He pales in comparison to Bookout in overall strength (but who doesn't?) but they are similar in length and I think the part that strikes me is how effective both are/were at rebounding angles.

If CJ Washington was 2-3 inches taller and a little stronger than that would be a good comparison imo. CJ would have been a dominant rebounder in the Big 12 if he was a couple inches taller imo.

 

[MNsooner]

Washington was an above average rebounder despite his size. Give him a few inches and Osby/Washington would have been the best rebounding front court you could put out in Big 12.

 

[bocabull]

Surely Spangle won't miss 3 foot shots on a regular basis. Bookout's lack of finishing ability was maddening. And please spare me his overall shooting %. That was the % of layups he made. A % which dramatically declined when we played Big XII teams.

 

[CoachTalk]

similar. Bookout is much stronger or thicker. Spangler is quicker and more agile, he also can shoot the ball decent. athletic 4 man.

 

[WTSooner]

The rebounding angle is about the only comparison I'd make to Bookout. Still not sure who is a good comparison for him overall. I think my expectations are lower than most.

 

[WTSooner]

Probably not the BEST comparison, but maybe Johnnie Gilbert with a little less athleticism, but a slightly more polished offensive game?

That is kind of his upside, IMO.

 

[MNsooner]

Probably not the BEST comparison, but maybe Johnnie Gilbert with a little less athleticism, but a slightly more polished offensive game?

That is kind of his upside, IMO.

Ouch. I liked Gilbert, but do you really think Spangler is only a 4 points & 4 rebounds kind of player?

 

[WTSooner]

Ouch. I liked Gilbert, but do you really think Spangler is only a 4 points & 4 rebounds kind of player?

This is why comparisons are so difficult. It's next to impossible to find a guy that has the same build, same style of play, will play the same minutes, will have the same role, etc.

Gilbert's scoring numbers are so low b/c he played on some good teams, and Kelvin didn't run the offense through him. At all. That limited his shots, though he typically scored it at a decent percentage.

If Spangler were to average 20 minutes per game as the 3rd or 4th big man, by his JR/SR years I'd expect something like 6.5ppg and 5-6 rebounds. There are so many variables, other than Spangler himself that factor in to stuff like that though.

 

[bgrch1350]

Ouch. I liked Gilbert, but do you really think Spangler is only a 4 points & 4 rebounds kind of player?

Right now he's a 2.5 ppg and 2.4 rpb

 

[vbdad]

First of all Johnnie Gilbert wasn't very athletic. He could jump decent but was very slow and awkward. He had absolutley no offensive game. A very solid defender and tenacious rebounder but no comparison to Spangler.

He reminds me most of Ryan Minor. I doubt he ever scores like him in the Big 12 but they are built the same and similar athletically. Don't forget Spangler was a super high school quarterback.

 

[MNsooner]

So Spangler is like Ryan Minor, Kevin Bookout, and Johnny Gilbert. You weren't kidding about these player comparisons being hard.

 

[WTSooner]

First of all Johnnie Gilbert wasn't very athletic. He could jump decent but was very slow and awkward. He had absolutley no offensive game. A very solid defender and tenacious rebounder but no comparison to Spangler.

He reminds me most of Ryan Minor. I doubt he ever scores like him in the Big 12 but they are built the same and similar athletically. Don't forget Spangler was a super high school quarterback.

LOL

So a guy that wasn't ranked coming out of HS, and didn't get off the bench enough at Gonzaga is freshman year, is more comparable to Ryan Minor than to Johnnie Gilbert?

I'll never understand the inflated expectations that some fans have.

And Johnnie Gilbert was PLENTY athletic. His awkwardness at the offensive end was just that, a lack of offensive game. Maybe even a hand-eye coordination issue if that is what you want to call it. But not a lack of athleticism. He moved well. He jumped really well. His strength was adequate.

 

[152219]

Ryan appears to be able to jump a little higher .

Is that really compliment?

 

[seniorsooner]

By the time Gilbert left OU he had actually developed into a pretty nice little player. Even on the offensive end, he had developed that little hook shot that was more than solid. His junior year he averaged over 5 pts, 4 boards and 1.5 blocks per game. His senior year I think there were some injury issues which limited his minutes/effectiveness. The stat line I quoted is very solid production for a bench player.

 

[152219]

Anyone who saw Ryan Minor play shortstop in high school, in particular, legion ball, would laugh at any comparison to athleticism and smoothness (body control) between Minor and Spangler

 

[WTSooner]

I'll be honest, when I mentioned Gilbert, I thought his senior years stats were a bit better. I still think, outside of ppg/rpg, it's a pretty decent comparison. I did say that Spangler would be more developed offensively, but he won't be any more effective/efficient then Gilbert was, it'll just result in more opportunities, most likely. Some of that will be do to role on the team and pace as much as anything.

 

[BigTime]

Comparisons are difficult to make yet they are fun to think about.

I hadn't thought about the Gilbert one. I always thought Gilbert used athleticism more than anything to sky for rebounds and put back dunks. He did have excellent timing.

Bookout and Spangler seem like more technical rebounders to me. The rebounding video of Spangler on the front page is what reminded me of Kevin. I thought Fitz was going to be that way out of high school...

 

[cowboysooner]

I haven't seen Spangler play, but a buddy of mine has seen him play several times and he said the kid reminded him of Taylor Griffin (plus about 1 inch).

I haven't seen CJ Cole play, but their bios read almost alike. If anyone has seen both play, maybe you could chime in and let us know how they compare.

Just reading on line, it sure appears the Gonzaga folks liked him and saw good things for him in the future. So, that is maybe a good sign.

I'm pretty pumped about Bennett. His stats are underwhelming to say the least, but we absolutely nobody that could defend the rim couple of years. This kid sounds like someone that can do that. If you don't think that is important, see Kentucky. The Davis kid made them a championship level defensive team. Not comparing Bennett to Davis of course, just saying it is awfully important to have a big with length to defend in the post and misdirect shots around the rim. I would think we have enough offense to play a defensive 5 player.

It will be fun to see these kids after an off season with the team. Just the fact that we have so many new kids to watch, will make next year fun.