Tanner and EJ stay - Mo exploring his Pro options

Stikboy said:
What’s amazing to me is the tampering that appears to be taking place.
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Yep, there's going to need to be some guidelines put in place. Maybe something like a transfer portal window. Deadlines for players to enter the portal, a time period for coaches to contact players, and a deadline for players to pick their new school. It'll help all parties involved in recruiting, available scholarships, etc. This year-round free agency thing is a mess.
 
TINY said:
How about Alondes? He was on our bench and went out and proved to be the best player in the ACC.

Boulder is right, many of our fans don’t have a great eye for talent.
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He wasnt only a talent question but also a not being in the doghouse question and lon didnt play him a lot so.. you think he cant identify talent (i wouldn't die on that hill however)?

Also again apples/oranges bc i believe that EJ got a shot this year to be the guy whereas i don't think AW did..
 
Stikboy said:
Utterly ridiculous. It’s going to kill the college game.
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It already has.

You know even the pro players are obsessed with playing on super teams.. thats the natural progression here and itll be kansas, Kentucky, Duke, UNC that lead the charge in the cheating/lame/dumb pay for play
 
Accept it or move on. That’s the only real choice here. I hate that it’s taken this turn, but I still want to follow college basketball and root for OU so I hope they become masters at this new game. Kinda wish they’d just call it Free Agency because that’s what it is. Except without contracts. So FA resets every year for every player. You re-recruit your team every year now. I couldn’t do it. Hoping Moser and company are good at it.
 
TINY said:
How about Alondes? He was on our bench and went out and proved to be the best player in the ACC.

Boulder is right, many of our fans don’t have a great eye for talent.
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So last year we had the ACC player of the year, Manek, and an NBA'er, and we put THAT team on the floor?

How does that happen? Lon that bad of a coach? Or maybe, regardless of the year they had this year, some of those guys aren't (or weren't) all you are making them out to be.
 
BoulderSooner said:
i am not saying that EJ is going to go be a giant star ... but he had a bunch of power 6 basketball interest to transfer and to be a starter ..
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We got better the less Harkless played IMO. He was terrible for much of the year. You like the +/- calc. He was terrible in conference, and was one of the worst starters OOC.

He is 100% replaceable via the Portal IMO.

But it shoudn't be weird that a P5 starter at a school that missed the Dance had interest to be a starter at other P5 schools.
 
WTSooner said:
So last year we had the ACC player of the year, Manek, and an NBA'er, and we put THAT team on the floor?

How does that happen? Lon that bad of a coach? Or maybe, regardless of the year they had this year, some of those guys aren't (or weren't) all you are making them out to be.
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Lon and staff did not get the most out of the team last year. I don’t think anyone can really argue that, at this point. He is still a damn good HoF-level coach.
 
TINY said:
Lon and staff did not get the most out of the team last year. I don’t think anyone can really argue that, at this point. He is still a damn good HoF-level coach.
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Last year is such a big what if. Had a great season going till the last two weeks of the regular season, then just collapsed down the stretch and it cost us big time. We had the team to make it to the second weekend of the tournament, but that four-game skid cost us several seed lines and forced us into that Gonzaga game. Very disappointing that we couldn’t get things righted during that period.
 
WTSooner said:
So last year we had the ACC player of the year, Manek, and an NBA'er, and we put THAT team on the floor?

How does that happen? Lon that bad of a coach? Or maybe, regardless of the year they had this year, some of those guys aren't (or weren't) all you are making them out to be.
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WT, I have asked myself those same questions?

Was the transfer portal a magical formula for the players we lost? Manek transferred to another school and became a key in leading them to a FF. Williams went from a player off of the bench at OU to an ACC star at Wake Forest. Kur Kuath progressed quickly from a sub to a starter at Marquette. Da’Vion Harmon was thought to be a disappointment by some, but he started at Oregon, a P5 school, and played quite well in the second half of the season

So, was a change in scenery and a new start at another school just what the basketball doctor ordered for these players, or was there dissension on the team we didn’t know about? Was our coaching staff to blame? That’s not an excuse I subscribe to, but I was not too pleased with the assistants Lon brought in after Steve Henson and the late Lew Hill left, especially their player development skills.

Is it possible my complaint was warranted, or was the sudden improvement we saw from our departed players serendipity at OU’s expense?
 
Now need 1 more to confirm they are back and that bumps up the number to 5 which would mean 1 more returning next season than the previous and that would be progress...
 
WichitaSooner said:
Last year is such a big what if. Had a great season going till the last two weeks of the regular season, then just collapsed down the stretch and it cost us big time. We had the team to make it to the second weekend of the tournament, but that four-game skid cost us several seed lines and forced us into that Gonzaga game. Very disappointing that we couldn’t get things righted during that period.
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agree. skid is a strong word to me.....lost @ KSU which is Lon's MO (even though i like Lon).....and twice to Cade Cunningham when our "go Austin Reeves" strategy i don't like when we have Harmon, Harkless, and Manek who can all score the ball....in the last minutes.

and Texas.

wouldn't call it a skid but hard row. we played good basketball teams and maybe our coach let us down a little....

i agree that was a team that could have made it to the second weekend.
 
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