The Noon Big 12 game.... Phillips 66/Cooper Tires/Etc

[steverocks35]

I didn't get a chance to check this thread till after the game and that is an incredibly funny experience. Reaves took only 11 shots, made six, sparked the comeback, yet is criticized for being a gunner and has people saying he should be benched. Meanwhile, we have people praising how KSU runs offense and saying Lon should take a lesson... notwithstanding the fact that KSU fans want to poke their eyes out on a consistent basis because their offense is so bad. To top it off, in the category that gets the most focus on this board, we outrebounded a team known for its physical play and that has bullied us for most of the past few years, yet there was basically no mention of that by the folks who fret most about our rebounding.

The negative folks on the board love to claim that they are just being objective and calling it like they see it. Reality says otherwise. If you go into every game determined to point out every mistake but never mention anything done well, that is far from objective.

If you watched the game, you saw Reaves commit multiple turnovers in the first half and early in the 2nd half, including an out of control charge, during that time he was hurting the team immensely and we got down by double digits. He got hot late in the game and started making those shots but it doesn’t change how he played earlier in the game.

As for K-State’s offense, they moved the ball much better then we did, nearly every team we play does because our offense is abhorrent. I don’t blame their fans for being annoyed because they couldn’t solve our 3-2 zone in the 2nd half. (I mentioned this in the game thread). We scored 30 points in the first half and chipped most of the paint off the rim with bad shooting. Reaves saved us by catching fire in the last five minutes but it doesn’t mean our offense was any better.

A major reason we won the game is because we out-rebounded them, that’s true, because in the games we lost, and in some we won, we got killed on the boards. Stanford, a team that got absolutely destroyed by Kansas at home, outrebounded us by 20. I forgot to mention the refs finally helped us in a game, free throw shooting carried us for a lot of the game when we couldn’t make a shot, it was nice to finally get the whistles we don’t normally get (I also mentioned this in the game thread)

 

[Hollisp]

“Tell it like it is” = excuse for being negative and/or having some weird anti OU agenda.

OU isn’t gonna win 2 out of their next 3 games. I hope they do. Hell I hope they go 3-0! Shouldn’t we all? This is an OU b-ball MB. My point is the “Tell it like it is” crowd will get your chance to be “right” in the next week. Why can’t we enjoy this W?

We all get it. We all wish OU was better. But it feels like
Some of y’all want the worst. It’s kinda sad.

 

[Hollisp]

The good news is...osu, texas, Kansas state, ISU, and TCU aren’t really better than we are. There is ku, 3 more very good teams and then a bit of a drop off.

We have to win our home games against those 5 teams and hopefully steal a few on the road.

My thoughts as well. Only real road I see for this team.

 

[SoonerinNC]

The term fan is short for fanatics. We tend to expect perfection from our team and some consider it a personal insult if someone doesn't perform to perfection.

The good thing about the internet is that I can watch almost any game or event I want compared to my younger days when you could watch only the game of the week, usually involving at least one of the big market teams. Thankful for Harry Carey and KMOX radio.

The bad thing about the internet is that it allows the schoolyard bullies to do their thing without the risk of someone eventually beating the crap out of them.

Let's face it. So far we have a poor shooting team with defensive weakness inside and at times shaky point guard play.

I'll take the win even against a soso team like K-State. We were pretty ordinary until the stretch run but this team does have some ability to finish well.

 

[skyvue]

According to Kenpom, we're 10-3 against (currently) the 39th toughest schedule in the country (we will climb in those rankings). Two of our losses were to Top 50 teams; the other one was to #51 -- all were on the road or at neutral sites (though WSU was hardly neutral). Two of those teams are several spots ahead of us in the rankings; the other is three behind us -- in other words, we haven't lost to a bad team. Not even close.

We have beaten four top 100 teams, only one of them at home, and we are currently, at 48, the sixth ranked team in the Big 12 (one spot below TCU).

Do I hope we improve? Heck, yes. Do we need to improve? Of course -- what team doesn't?

But the day I can't find a way to enjoy a 10-3 start by a Sooner squad with as many new pieces as we have against the second toughest schedule in the Big 12, put me out of my misery, please.

 

[sheepdogs1]

Gigo.

 

[Leroy]

First league game and Manek is a no show. I had some hope after the last game.

 

[oudna]

First league game and Manek is a no show. I had some hope after the last game.

He’s back, keeping it real

 

[CoachTalk]

First league game and Manek is a no show. I had some hope after the last game.

Sure a few more points would’ve been nice but almost a double double is solid.

 

[CoachTalk]

The “freedom” of 4 guys standing around watching Reaves dribble for 20 seconds then firing it up? Yep

6-11 from filed 55%
4/8 from deep 50%

6reb

Just TURRIBLE!

 

[steverocks35]

6-11 from filed 55%
4/8 from deep 50%

6reb

Just TURRIBLE!

He was awful early and got hot late, I mentioned that, but if we depend on him bailing us out at the end of every game by playing one-on-one we are going to be in really bad shape. It’s not a good offensive plan, especially against better teams. I don’t know why that’s difficult to understand.

 

[thebigabd]

Manek was definitely not a no show... 9 and 9 is solid and he soaks up so much attention because he can shoot it so well. Manek opens everything up.

 

[steverocks35]

Manek was definitely not a no show... 9 and 9 is solid and he soaks up so much attention because he can shoot it so well. Manek opens everything up.

Sure, not a no-show, but we have so many guys that can’t score we are probably going to need more out of him if we are going to compete to get in the tournament

 

[skyvue]

Entering yesterday, Manek had scored in double digits in every single game this season; he scored 15 points or more in more than half those games.

Yesterday, he fell one short of double digits, while grabbing nine rebounds and playing solid defense.

 

[CoachTalk]

Sure, not a no-show, but we have so many guys that can’t score we are probably going to need more out of him if we are going to compete to get in the tournament

3 scorers in the TOP 10 of the Big 12!!!

Need JB to uptick some

 

[NickZepp]

Manek was definitely not a no show... 9 and 9 is solid and he soaks up so much attention because he can shoot it so well. Manek opens everything up.

A lot of his open 3 looks I'm okay with because he was that open and they went in and out. A lot of those will go in over time. He really didn't play that bad. Reaves was pretty bad the first 3/4ths of the game. Harmon and Bienemy were really no shows on offense. But Manek wasn't really a problem IMO.

 

[steverocks35]

3 scorers in the TOP 10 of the Big 12!!!

Need JB to uptick some

Omg, do I really need to list the ppg averages of everyone else on the team besides those 3?

 

[Soonercpa2011]

He was awful early and got hot late, I mentioned that, but if we depend on him bailing us out at the end of every game by playing one-on-one we are going to be in really bad shape. It’s not a good offensive plan, especially against better teams. I don’t know why that’s difficult to understand.

Keep being terrible and winning. Yeah I’ll take it!

 

[Darwin]

3 scorers in the TOP 10 of the Big 12!!!

Need JB to uptick some

So true. This team would be good if we get JB"s upside. Sophomore slumps are a real thing unfortunately.

 

[CoachTalk]

Omg, do I really need to list the ppg averages of everyone else on the team besides those 3?

Know I know them.

Reason I followed with JB needs to hoop!

Williams victor kur hill DH

IF we can get something from them.