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Based on his behavior this year, I'd want to get away from him too.
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Based on his behavior this year, I'd want to get away from him too.
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If money is what determines importance (ie, baseball, softball, wrestling, etc. do not matter) then just skip to the end game. Drop all non profitable sports and sell contracts or create sport specific pro organizations to take over management the remaining few dozen or so sports teams in bball and football that make money. Everyone else can stop lighting money on fire, and you can solve the free agent problem since it would be private enterprise and not gov institutions that “own” the teams.
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This.
Because we have fans that support it over sports that matter like CBB. Softball is not huge nationwide. The ratings are meh and the following is basically OU and that's it. It's a crap sport.
Do it to it. Amen and yes please. Let's get it going so we can concentrate on the sports that matter.
National championships in Softball, Gymnastics are then not meaningful compared to mediocrity in basketball, don't think so.
Joycelyn Alo brought a lot of national publicity to OU and Patty Gasso is the GOAT of college softball. Outside of Switzer and Bud what other OU
coaches can you place in that category. Maybe Port Robertson and Bennie Owen.
Joycelyn Alo brought a lot of national publicity to OU and Patty Gasso is the GOAT of college softball. Outside of Switzer and Bud what other OU
coaches can you place in that category. Maybe Port Robertson and Bennie Owen.
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Spoke to a d1 asst in state. Was talking to him about nil, rev share etc, reloading teams …
He said we went to dinner last night, (few weeks back) and had a recruit and 2 handlers. End of dinner, handlers say let’s cut to it, visits been great, but we both know what’s important… how much is the offer?
He said we went to dinner last night, (few weeks back) and had a recruit and 2 handlers. End of dinner, handlers say let’s cut to it, visits been great, but we both know what’s important… how much is the offer?
Not surprising. At least they did more due diligence than garrison did with Kentucky. Dude never even visited, right?
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You'd think that could be handled by phone instead of wasting people's time with small talk. In the end most of these kids are going to the highest offer.
Softball has come a long way in the last 15-20 years. It has increased in popularity across the country. It used to be a strictly west coast sport. The National Tournament has also been very good to Oklahoma City. It contributes to the economy.
I’m a season ticket holder in football, but I happen to enjoy softball, basketball, and baseball. I’m happy for the success of gymnastics and golf. It would a real shame to drop sports to invest even more money in football. If so many of these SEC schools can support all of these sports, I don’t see why can’t do it as well.
You have every right to not like softball, but the juvenile name calling is not fair or accurate.
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Garrison did not visit Kentucky
Huge may be a bit too big but softball is much more popular than the credit you are giving it. I'm 1400 miles from Norman and softball is pretty big in my area. Travel and AAU year round. Outside spring to fall and indoors in the winter. Girls from 10U through D3 travel all over the east coast for spring tournaments. I have a friend whose daughter just graduated from a D3 school in 2024. They started each year she was there with a 10 day, 10 game opening non-con slate. Not a bad budget for a D3 school.
I've lived in Greenville, SC for the majority of my life. The only time I've seen or met anyone that mentioned softball was high school, Oklahoma Sooners Forums, and ESPN during the Softball Tournament. For the most part, no one talks about softball around here and I've lived overseas for years and months at a time and no one talks about softball there either.
Again. If it was so "popular and awesome" as some portray on here. It would garner move revenue, generate a net profit, and be up there with the other sports that have a ton of viewership nationwide. It doesn't, so why do we continue to proclaim that it's important?
In the end, Joe C is on the hot seat right now because football and basketball (until recently) were bordering on irrelevant while the other irrelevant sports such as softball, golf, and gymnastics were excellent and continued to win nattys. If that doesn't show you what matters in the grand scheme, I don't know what to tell the weirdo softball fans.
I don't care about the economy to Oklahoma City.
The sports you're speaking of are going to eventually have to drop because NIL matters more than ever in football and basketball and when it happens, I'll super thankful that OU and it's admin saw the light and dropped the sports that don't matter in the grand scheme.
Josh M over at SS said the non net profit sports are eventually going to have to go away to keep up with NIL in both basketball in football. Just the way it is, until someone fixes this NIL system in general. It's been a pleasure, but don't try to say how relevant softball is nationwide, when their ratings are still worse than the NHL's ratings and even the Champions Leagues ratings here (how else are we going to view popularity? Hearsay?)
For comparison's sake, the Champions League final (the best game in soccer unless the World Cup is happening) garnered 2.32 million nationwide. Which was more than the best game in softballs world series. So yeah.......https://apnews.com/article/champions-league-ratings-c68156e0181cc8284467ca89b79dbe29
You’re right. NIL will put so much pressure on schools that they will be forced to drop any sport that doesn’t bring in revenue to make sure their basketball and football teams are competitive. I don’t want that to happen necessarily, even though I think colleges have gone alittle crazy with the amount of sports there are. They could probably cut out things like golf and lacrosse, and sand volleyball.
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I think Sankey already said they are gonna end up cutting sports to 18 during the congressional meetings last week and some other college president agreed.
That's crazy. Wonder what the 18 will be? I know some of the Olympic sports will have to go like fencing.
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For OU this is what it looks like
Only one sex has these sports
Football, Wrestling, Volleyball, Baseball, Softball, Rowing and Soccer
Basketball(Men's and Women's)
Gymnastics(Men's and Women's)
Track and Field(Men's and Women's)
Cross Country(Men's and Women's)
Golf(Men's and Women's)
Tennis(Men's and Women's)
You could see Cross Country and Track and Field be combined into one that would put OU right under. I didn't realize till I just counted from the SoonerSports site but it looks like we are down to 19 already.
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