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Won't dropping a women's sports team run afoul of Title 9 which means equal scholarships between men and women.
Schools with super endowments like Stanford can have as many sports as they want. Imagine fencing must have the fewest teams nationwide
along with skiing, rodeo and bowling.
 
TSSR said:
That's crazy. Wonder what the 18 will be? I know some of the Olympic sports will have to go like fencing.
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Joe c has a chub for the Olympic type sports unfortunately.. rowing gets like 500k-1 mil. Ridiculous when our football and men's basketball needs every single cent
 
61sooner said:
Won't dropping a women's sports team run afoul of Title 9 which means equal scholarships between men and women.
Schools with super endowments like Stanford can have as many sports as they want. Imagine fencing must have the fewest teams nationwide
along with skiing, rodeo and bowling.
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They will need some competition in fencing, diving, etc.

If the rest of the country drops those sports then they will have to also.
 
hoopsaustin said:
Joe c has a chub for the Olympic type sports unfortunately.. rowing gets like 500k-1 mil. Ridiculous when our football and men's basketball needs every single cent
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Or maybe the problem is that football and basketball (not just at OU, but across the board) have become bottomless money pits. Many people get excited at the thought of big money pouring in from ESPN or wherever, but it comes at a price. Between NIL, coaches' salaries and the endless facilities race, the the debits manage to keep up with--if not surpass--the credits. And the fans are asked--expected, really--to keep chipping in more and more.

I've said it before: College football and basketball are no more enjoyable today than they were in the 1970s, but the money shoveled into them is exponentially higher (and those sports weren't cheap in the '70s).
 
skyvue said:
Or maybe the problem is that football and basketball (not just at OU, but across the board) have become bottomless money pits. Many people get excited at the thought of big money pouring in from ESPN or wherever, but it comes at a price. Between NIL, coaches' salaries and the endless facilities race, the the debits manage to keep up with--if not surpass--the credits. And the fans are asked--expected, really--to keep chipping in more and more.

I've said it before: College football and basketball are no more enjoyable today than they were in the 1970s, but the money shoveled into them is exponentially higher (and those sports weren't cheap in the '70s).
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I agree with you and your sentiment. But sadly, it only makes sense nowadays to throw money at the 2 biggest sports
 
61sooner said:
Won't dropping a women's sports team run afoul of Title 9 which means equal scholarships between men and women.
Schools with super endowments like Stanford can have as many sports as they want. Imagine fencing must have the fewest teams nationwide
along with skiing, rodeo and bowling.
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I love when fans of the crap sports bring up Title 9. Title 9 doesn't matter if the schools can't afford to keep them.

Oklahoma will probably keep softball around but in the grand scheme a lot of schools won't keep those programs around. Especially the small ones, or the ones that aren't in conferences that generate enough revenue.
 
skyvue said:
Or maybe the problem is that football and basketball (not just at OU, but across the board) have become bottomless money pits. Many people get excited at the thought of big money pouring in from ESPN or wherever, but it comes at a price. Between NIL, coaches' salaries and the endless facilities race, the the debits manage to keep up with--if not surpass--the credits. And the fans are asked--expected, really--to keep chipping in more and more.

I've said it before: College football and basketball are no more enjoyable today than they were in the 1970s, but the money shoveled into them is exponentially higher (and those sports weren't cheap in the '70s).
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I won't argue with you there, it's not what I grew up with that's for sure. But in the end, they're the ones that generate the net profits for the university in their Athletic Departments. Especially football. So whatever they say goes in those two.
 
I say give colleges an antitrust exemption. Then have all the colleges collude and agree to limit coaches salaries to no more than $300k for head coaches, $150k for assistants and limit athletes to schollies and $500 per month. Violations result in loss of ability to play college sports. Coaches have to disclose nil income and can’t exceed certain levels or are banned from college work

All profit from athletic programs required to be returned to college and required to be used to defray cost of tuition for all kids.

Make school the main thing and sports just extra curriculum like it once was.
 
skyvue said:
Or maybe the problem is that football and basketball (not just at OU, but across the board) have become bottomless money pits. Many people get excited at the thought of big money pouring in from ESPN or wherever, but it comes at a price. Between NIL, coaches' salaries and the endless facilities race, the the debits manage to keep up with--if not surpass--the credits. And the fans are asked--expected, really--to keep chipping in more and more.

I've said it before: College football and basketball are no more enjoyable today than they were in the 1970s, but the money shoveled into them is exponentially higher (and those sports weren't cheap in the '70s).
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I’d personally disagree about CFB, the brand matchups in the BIG & SEC on a weekly basis are far better than the early teens much less the 70s when OU had a two game season. And the G5 content is way better than it used to be in the 70s.

I think MBB officiating is poor and the brand matchups are less compelling to me personally. The regular season has also been cheapened but love Feast Week & especially the postseason.

But again ratings continue to move higher and higher even if the environment pisses off old school fans. So be it. No ill will towards the non-revenue sports, they’re just not as interesting to me as the revenue sports or major professional leagues. Glad people like you enjoy them. I think elite revenue sports help the university out far more than you’re acknowledging but I am not sure how to quantify (think admissions bump after a national championship in FB or a final four run).
 
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61sooner said:
Would Oklahoma City be host for 2028 Olympics in rowing and softball if OU didn't have those sports?
This might be the biggest sports payoff in Oklahoma history in cash and publicity for the state.
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Probably. Softball Hall of Fame moved to OKC in 1966. Rowing became a sport at OU in 2009, same time the national performance center was built.
 
TSSR said:
I've lived in Greenville, SC for the majority of my life. The only time I've seen or met anyone that mentioned softball was high school, Oklahoma Sooners Forums, and ESPN during the Softball Tournament. For the most part, no one talks about softball around here and I've lived overseas for years and months at a time and no one talks about softball there either.

Again. If it was so "popular and awesome" as some portray on here. It would garner move revenue, generate a net profit, and be up there with the other sports that have a ton of viewership nationwide. It doesn't, so why do we continue to proclaim that it's important?

In the end, Joe C is on the hot seat right now because football and basketball (until recently) were bordering on irrelevant while the other irrelevant sports such as softball, golf, and gymnastics were excellent and continued to win nattys. If that doesn't show you what matters in the grand scheme, I don't know what to tell the weirdo softball fans.
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Great city!! I used to rep a company that was headquartered in Gville! They’ve done a phenomenal job with the city!
 
Fairly certain Endurance Management is a new follow for Armon Gates. Comes right around the time this was tweeted:




Ryan Humphrey is also an old follow.
 
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