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The_Banker said:
Might not be the right spot, but did anyone listen to the sooner scoop pod? drove 2 hours to the baseball game lastnight so had some time to kill. George said Brock Morris is basically acting like the GM and it sound like he could be elevated to that position, he made it seem like hiring within was the likely option.
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I may have to try and listen, I would prefer an outside hire with some analytics - business dev experience...but something is better than nothing I guess?
 
I don't have quite the Frankie Collins hate as some on here, but I prefer Campbell over Collins. What do some of you think about Javontae Campbell? Personally, I'd love to see us get TAE Davis and JavonTAE Campbell wrapped up soon. That would leave you with 3 open spots for other portal additions. With that, I'd like to see another big and two very solid guards. If we could do that we would have something to work with at least.
 
cvangild said:
I don't have quite the Frankie Collins hate as some on here, but I prefer Campbell over Collins. What do some of you think about Javontae Campbell? Personally, I'd love to see us get TAE Davis and JavonTAE Campbell wrapped up soon. That would leave you with 3 open spots for other portal additions. With that, I'd like to see another big and two very solid guards. If we could do that we would have something to work with at least.
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Probably a duh statement but an impact big (6'9-6'10 not 6'6-6'7) that wants to rebound and an impact PG are what OU needs the most at the moment IMO.
 
Maverick008 said:
Probably a duh statement but an impact big (6'9-6'10 not 6'6-6'7) that wants to rebound and an impact PG are what OU needs the most at the moment IMO.
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I agree 100% with this take. The only team in the FF with bigs that are less than 6'8 is Houston. All other teams have big dudes above 6'10 that start.

Now, will we be in a FF anytime soon? Probably not. Unless we start throwing out massive bucks to these transfers and recruits.
 
Boulder, where I disagree that your statement can be viewed as a fact not subject to dispute is we had 3 injuries that kept 3 of our top 6-7 players out of action down the stretch and 2 players out of action for the entire year. The team Moser put together that practiced between August and November is not the team that played. I don't know anything about Jeff Nwonkwo, but Jones would have started. Some think that is true for Jeff, but I have never seen him play. So, it might be (we will never know) that the team he put together and anticipated playing the year with would have been better.

I have complaints, just like many of you, related to PM. But, he isn't nearly as bad a coach as some of you suggest. Considering everything, he has had 3 winning teams in 4 years and made the tournament once and was the last team out twice, while playing in the toughest college basketball league all 4 years. So, it is undisputable that his tenure has been anything but a disaster. It has not met expectations of some, but in the grand scheme of things has been pretty good.

Some coaches I like, and some I don't. But, I disagree with anyone that believes it is fair to judge the merits of a coach without taking into consideration what he is given to work with (re players, funding, gym, fan support, injuries etc.). It might be fair for someone to have an opinion or state Porter hasn't done as well as he "could" have or "should" have. OK -- reasonable people can disagree. But, to say he has been a poor or bad coach is just not fair - IMO.

I have watched the fan base of this university turn on Tubbs, due to a downturn at the end of his tenure, turn on Capel (same reason), turn on Lon Kruger (same reason) and for many, turn on Moser not withstanding far more consistent success over a 4 year tenure. None of these guys were bad coaches. Lon retired, and OU just decided they could do better with the others. I have no problem with the university's judgment in these instances. Sampson left of his own accord for a better job but I was on this board while he was here, and there was just as much hate spewed at him as a coach as I see (and have once or twice participated in) against Moser.

There is absolute no basis to fire Moser for cause. If at some point, the university wants to move on because they think they can do better, that is there prerogative. I'm OK with OU whatever they choose, it is the responsibility of Joe to make these decisions and he has more information than any of us related to the resources Porter is given and what expectations can fairly be placed on him.
 
The_Banker said:
Might not be the right spot, but did anyone listen to the sooner scoop pod? drove 2 hours to the baseball game lastnight so had some time to kill. George said Brock Morris is basically acting like the GM and it sound like he could be elevated to that position, he made it seem like hiring within was the likely option.
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From what I saw at the games, I don't want to lose Brock Morris on the bench. Especially with losing Gates, too. Morris coached and engaged with the team as much as anyone.

Plus, I would rather have someone with more experience in a FT job of roster construction. Maybe a crude analogy, but it's kind of like asking a WR to play RB just because you don't have an extra RB. They know the plays, know how to run with the ball, and can probably do it, but they aren't going to do it as well as someone that spends their entire playing days at RB and trains and studies specifically for that position. He could do it and maybe do it well with time, but better people to do it now.

Even worse, it's a cheap way out. It's putting fresh icing on a dried-out, nasty cake and thinking it will make it a great cake.
 
Having to differentiate between Javontae (Campbell) and Jovantae (Barnes) is rough (Muskogee Roughers).

In all seriousness, there are so many good guards out there....especially when you're talking bench/combo guards. That was my primary issue with Elvis last year. You can find good guards at cheap price points. Taking kids like Elvis and/or Collins = settling, IMO. Collins fits Vandy much better than OU.

I'd love Campbell as a backup. He's better than Elvis IMO. As CMD posted with the broken hand stuff, basketball is important to Campbell. "He's a dawg". He's the type you'd want to take into battle (as a backup).
 
TopherB560 said:
I think we can somewhat agree on the roster construction. I think they were counting on Jadon Jones and Jeff Nwankwo to be bigger factors where you didn't have defensively challenged Brycen Goodine out on the floor in key moments where you needed stops. Does that influence the coaching part too, it could, but too big an uncertainty.
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There is just no way to know how that plays out. Most of us expected bigger things from the guards that did play. We also might not have been in a position to land Fears, and certainly not Taylor, if Nwankwo doesn't get hurt. Maybe Dayton doesn't play as much. Maybe those guys are better players, but the chemistry isn't right. Neither of those guys are studs (most likely), so I think any improvement would have been minimal. But again, not sure we get Fears either.
 
WTSooner said:
There is just no way to know how that plays out. Most of us expected bigger things from the guards that did play. We also might not have been in a position to land Fears, and certainly not Taylor, if Nwankwo doesn't get hurt. Maybe Dayton doesn't play as much. Maybe those guys are better players, but the chemistry isn't right. Neither of those guys are studs (most likely), so I think any improvement would have been minimal. But again, not sure we get Fears either.
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Agree.. we'll never know but landing fears and having Jeff go down are not relative. You take fears if you have to boot moser as a walkon!
 
cowboysooner said:
Boulder, where I disagree that your statement can be viewed as a fact not subject to dispute is we had 3 injuries that kept 3 of our top 6-7 players out of action down the stretch and 2 players out of action for the entire year. The team Moser put together that practiced between August and November is not the team that played. I don't know anything about Jeff Nwonkwo, but Jones would have started. Some think that is true for Jeff, but I have never seen him play. So, it might be (we will never know) that the team he put together and anticipated playing the year with would have been better.

I have complaints, just like many of you, related to PM. But, he isn't nearly as bad a coach as some of you suggest. Considering everything, he has had 3 winning teams in 4 years and made the tournament once and was the last team out twice, while playing in the toughest college basketball league all 4 years. So, it is undisputable that his tenure has been anything but a disaster. It has not met expectations of some, but in the grand scheme of things has been pretty good.

Some coaches I like, and some I don't. But, I disagree with anyone that believes it is fair to judge the merits of a coach without taking into consideration what he is given to work with (re players, funding, gym, fan support, injuries etc.). It might be fair for someone to have an opinion or state Porter hasn't done as well as he "could" have or "should" have. OK -- reasonable people can disagree. But, to say he has been a poor or bad coach is just not fair - IMO.

I have watched the fan base of this university turn on Tubbs, due to a downturn at the end of his tenure, turn on Capel (same reason), turn on Lon Kruger (same reason) and for many, turn on Moser not withstanding far more consistent success over a 4 year tenure. None of these guys were bad coaches. Lon retired, and OU just decided they could do better with the others. I have no problem with the university's judgment in these instances. Sampson left of his own accord for a better job but I was on this board while he was here, and there was just as much hate spewed at him as a coach as I see (and have once or twice participated in) against Moser.

There is absolute no basis to fire Moser for cause. If at some point, the university wants to move on because they think they can do better, that is there prerogative. I'm OK with OU whatever they choose, it is the responsibility of Joe to make these decisions and he has more information than any of us related to the resources Porter is given and what expectations can fairly be placed on him.
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He’s a terrible coach and I base that on his body of work as well as seeing what he does in games. I don’t care what team we had last fall vs. what we had in the spring.
 
WTSooner said:
Neither of those guys are studs (most likely), so I think any improvement would have been minimal.
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Not saying either of those guys would have had anywhere close to the impact he had but it was funny to listen to an interview that Rick Barnes gave last year near the end of the season about Dalton Knecht. He was asked if they expected the type of impact he had provided, and Barnes response was basically no one expected that sort of impact but more of a guy that could score a little and would provide scoring now and then possibly off the bench.

There were reports of Nwankwo being the best player on the team in the early fall. As well as Jones possibly being the best 3 pt shooter or at least close to it. There is no way of telling what sort of impact they could have made. It's the fact that people keep saying the roster Porter put together wasn't good enough and that full roster never played together.

I think it was Taylor who might not have been on the team or played near as much if they hadn't gotten hurt not sure they affected Fears.
 
steverocks35 said:
He’s a terrible coach and I base that on his body of work as well as seeing what he does in games. I don’t care what team we had last fall vs. what we had in the spring.
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Based on all the talk by the PM excuse-makers, Jones and JN better be the second-coming of Jordan and Scottie next year. Two guys who have never played power conference ball and who weren't rated in anyone's top 100 (maybe not 200), and yet all we hear is how much of a difference they would have made.
 
Goldberg719 said:
Wonder if Collins leaning Vandy is an indication of how we feel about Mack/Lindsey/White.
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Unfortunately, JJ White committed to Baylor. I'm not sure who involved we were with him, but I think he would have been a nice get.

My personal current favorites for 3 guard spots, until we see if we get involved with others, are Lindsey/Nait George/Campbell.
 
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