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[austing7]

Oklahoma Sooners TE Jalon Moore...

 

[MJSooner]

Oklahoma Sooners TE Jalon Moore...

Speaking of football and basketball dual sport athletes, as his name was mentioned many pages ago ITT... but what about CJ Nickson?

Anyone heard of him playing basketball as a realistic possibility, or just off the cuff wishes from a HS recruit?

 

[skyvue]

pm is so weird sometimes. And his obsession with Godwin over wague looks like it was a failure too

I'm not sure PM is the one who's obsessed.

Here are the per-minute stats for Godwin and Wague:

Godwin
.28 rpm, .35 ppm, .14 fpm, .03 bpm

Wague
.27 rpm, .34 ppm, .20 fpm, .03 bpm

It's basically dead even, except for fouls. Wague's per-minute foul rate would have amounted to a total of 115 total fouls compared to Godwin's 81, if he'd played the same number of minutes Sam did. That's a 42% increase. In what way would he have been enough of an improvement over Sam to make the significant increase in fouls worth absorbing?

 

[CoachTalk]

Speaking of football and basketball dual sport athletes, as his name was mentioned many pages ago ITT... but what about CJ Nickson?

Anyone heard of him playing basketball as a realistic possibility, or just off the cuff wishes from a HS recruit?

No chance. IMO.

 

[TINY]

Man I’m so pumped about this portal class. If we can get solid to good production from the players that were retained…look out!

 

[notaburner]

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The last sentence sounds promising. I guess we'll see.

I know they feel pretty confident about him making it to campus. I still don’t think it happens if he goes in the top 10 rounds as y’all discussed. Best outcome? MLB teams don’t draft him until late because of the threat of not signing him.

 

[cbertus6]

I'm not sure PM is the one who's obsessed.

Here are the per-minute stats for Godwin and Wague:

Godwin
.28 rpm, .35 ppm, .14 fpm, .03 bpm

Wague
.27 rpm, .34 ppm, .20 fpm, .03 bpm

It's basically dead even, except for fouls. Wague's per-minute foul rate would have amounted to a total of 115 total fouls compared to Godwin's 81, if he'd played the same number of minutes Sam did. That's a 42% increase. In what way would he have been an improvement over Sam to make the significant increase in fouls worth absorbing?

That may all be true, but you can present stats in a way that may not depict the full picture. For example: Wague was better than Godwin in eFG% (72.3% vs 59.3%), Offensive Rebound % (19.2% vs 15.9%), Free Throw % (65.4% vs 56.3%), Assist % (10.9% vs 8.1%), and Steal % (4.2% vs 2.7%). In all of those categories I just listed (minus FT%), Wague was in the 96th or higher percentile according to cbbanalytics.com this past season.

Also, Wague's On/Off Differential Net Rating was +11.9 (highest on the team). Godwin's was -4.6 (tied with Forysthe for second lowest behind Moore, surprisingly with -12.9). Meaning the team was almost 12 points better per 100 possessions with Wague on the floor vs not on the floor, and just under 5 points worse per 100 possessions with Godwin on vs off.

 

[cvangild]

I'm not sure PM is the one who's obsessed.

Here are the per-minute stats for Godwin and Wague:

Godwin
.28 rpm, .35 ppm, .14 fpm, .03 bpm

Wague
.27 rpm, .34 ppm, .20 fpm, .03 bpm

It's basically dead even, except for fouls. Wague's per-minute foul rate would have amounted to a total of 115 total fouls compared to Godwin's 81, if he'd played the same number of minutes Sam did. That's a 42% increase. In what way would he have been enough of an improvement over Sam to make the significant increase in fouls worth absorbing?

Some like to act like Wague played the way he played at the end of the season....the whole season. They forget how bad he was at times. In other games, he didn't play long enough to be bad or good because of fouls. Godwin wasn't great by any means, but he had some good moments. The truth is, neither should have been starting for us. And tbh, I am a tad concerned about that spot for next year, assuming we add no one else. Wague will get in foul trouble at times, that a certainty...so I hope the freshman is ready.

 

[Seymore Cox]

This guy is about to get fired.

 

[CoachTalk]

This guy is about to get fired.

Lol

Tate will keep getting better. McCollum can coach.

 

[allday92]

Some like to act like Wague played the way he played at the end of the season....the whole season. They forget how bad he was at times. In other games, he didn't play long enough to be bad or good because of fouls. Godwin wasn't great by any means, but he had some good moments. The truth is, neither should have been starting for us. And tbh, I am a tad concerned about that spot for next year, assuming we add no one else. Wague will get in foul trouble at times, that a certainty...so I hope the freshman is ready.

Yep, it is a good incoming class, but this coaching staff needs to get some level of internal improvement from Wague that other coaches haven't been able to get out of him. At this point, I'm afraid he is who he is.

 

[hoopsaustin]

I'm not sure PM is the one who's obsessed.

Here are the per-minute stats for Godwin and Wague:

Godwin
.28 rpm, .35 ppm, .14 fpm, .03 bpm

Wague
.27 rpm, .34 ppm, .20 fpm, .03 bpm

It's basically dead even, except for fouls. Wague's per-minute foul rate would have amounted to a total of 115 total fouls compared to Godwin's 81, if he'd played the same number of minutes Sam did. That's a 42% increase. In what way would he have been enough of an improvement over Sam to make the significant increase in fouls worth absorbing?

Give me wague's stats after godwin's injury. He was much better then

 

[CoachTalk]

Yep, it is a good incoming class, but this coaching staff needs to get some level of internal improvement from Wague that other coaches haven't been able to get out of him. At this point, I'm afraid he is who he is.

You don’t think he was better this year than he was at bama?

Or from game 10 to 30?

 

[TINY]

Yep, it is a good incoming class, but this coaching staff needs to get some level of internal improvement from Wague that other coaches haven't been able to get out of him. At this point, I'm afraid he is who he is.

I’d say we have already seen some improvement. He was a legitimate post the last month of the season against high quality interior opposition.

He was borderline unplayable for the first few months. Northweather for instance played his ass off in Bahamas and stole some PT. By the end of the season there was no doubt who the best post was, though. It was Swague

 

[WichitaSooner]

You don’t think he was better this year than he was at bama?

Or from game 10 to 30?

Which makes one wonder why Moser played him 7 minutes in game 29. Let’s be honest, if Sam doesn’t get hurt in game 30, Wague wouldn’t have gotten any more run down the stretch.

 

[allday92]

You don’t think he was better this year than he was at bama?

Or from game 10 to 30?

Didn't watch him that much at Bama, but the per 40 minutes/per 100 possession numbers are basically the same. His foul rate is a little lower. I think he improved a little during the season, but it is a lot different when you are playing starter minutes. Teams will have film on him, and can play against his tendencies to be aggressive, foul a lot, and go for the block which puts him out of position to rebound. He definitely improved, but I'm just worried about him being the full time starter. Could be wrong or Kai Rogers is a superstar that takes the job from him.

 

[skyvue]

Give me wague's stats after godwin's injury. He was much better then

They're included in the stats I gave you and are the only reason the comparison was that close.

It often happens that a player plays over his head when he is called upon to step in for an injured player. I hope we get that Wague next season; that would be great. But you (and others) are (and have been) saying he should have been starting all season and there was nothing at all to indicate that he was going to be that guy until Godwin went down. I think my PM non-apologist bona fides are well established by now, but to just assume that Wague was clearly the guy last season and PM was "obsessed" with Godwin is just silly. PM knew he was on the hot seat. If Wague was outperforming Godwin in practice, he'd have been playing.

 

[WichitaSooner]

They're included in the stats I gave you and are the only reason the comparison was that close.

It often happens that a player plays over his head when he is called upon to step in for an injured player. I hope we get that Wague next season; that would be great. But you (and others) are (and have been) saying he should have been starting all season and there was nothing at all to indicate that he was going to be that guy until Godwin went down. I think my PM non-apologist bona fides are well established by now, but to just assume that Wague was clearly the guy last season and PM was "obsessed" with Godwin is just silly. PM knew he was on the hot seat. If Wague was outperforming Godwin in practice, he'd have been playing.

You might not be the biggest PM apologist but you defend every single playing time decision he makes with this same logic. We all agree that Moser thinks he is playing the right guys. That doesn’t mean he is.

 

[hoopsaustin]

They're included in the stats I gave you and are the only reason the comparison was that close.

It often happens that a player plays over his head when he is called upon to step in for an injured player. I hope we get that Wague next season; that would be great. But you (and others) are (and have been) saying he should have been starting all season and there was nothing at all to indicate that he was going to be that guy until Godwin went down. I think my PM non-apologist bona fides are well established by now, but to just assume that Wague was clearly the guy last season and PM was "obsessed" with Godwin is just silly. PM knew he was on the hot seat. If Wague was outperforming Godwin in practice, he'd have been playing.

I talked about isolated stats for after Godwin was hurt. Wague took it up a notch. We all saw it

 

[cowboysooner]

Wague was going to start for alabama his last year until he got hurt in the preseason and missed too much practice to get his place in the rotation.

I like the kid and think he will give us decent to good play next year. I think he will give us a competitive defender innthe post for however many minutes we can get out of him.