What are reasonable expectations for this season?

[campbest]

#1- I do not know how to how to bring these types of references back to the message board. If i could, I could probably go back and find the one I quoted.

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[thebigabd]

This is a joke right? Capel left the program much better off than he found it and it's not even close. Kruger has done a great job improving what Capel left in short order too.

Capel inherited a team without a single all conference caliber player and zero experience to speak of. Kruger is walking into a team with lots of experience and at least 2 all conference caliber players (osby & clark).

You are still defending the worst coach in the history of Oklahoma basketball? I mean, you pimped the hell out of him so I understand the position it puts you in. But a simple, "I was wrong" is way more admirable than complete and total lunacy.

 

[Northbase]

I just want my expectations to be exceeded.

 

[garyeb2]

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Thanks. I'll work on it.

 

[seniorsooner]

Actually paste is (Ctrl + V). Print is (Ctrl + P).

 

[thebigabd]

Actually "control + v" is paste.

 

[garyeb2]

haha, Mountain West Conference was the fourth best league last year statistically, right behind the Big XII....yet above the SEC, ACC and Pac-10.

If you really want to argue, you will need to get past this one potato two potato thought process. They built their stats with soft non-conference schedules and against the bottom half of their own league.

Taking the position that the Mountain West is a better basketball conference than the SEC, ACC, and Pac 10 is OK with me. But, my best advice would be, don't gamble on basketball games.

 

[campbest]

Actually paste is (Ctrl + V). Print is (Ctrl + P).

haha, ****

 

[BigTime]

Nit.

 

[campbest]

If you really want to argue, you will need to get past this one potato two potato thought process. They built their stats with soft non-conference schedules and against the bottom half of their own league.

Taking the position that the Mountain West is a better basketball conference than the SEC, ACC, and Pac 10 is OK with me. But, my best advice would be, don't gamble on basketball games.

Not here to proclaim the MWC's prestige, but it's a statistical fact the conference had a very good year. At least recognize the wins over Arizona (in SLC), @Gonzaga, @St. Mary's, Wisconsin, Virginia Tech (neutral), Kansas State (in KC), Colorado (N), amongst others I am too lazy to look up.

Going into the conference tournament, 5/9 teams were considered to have an at-large bid chance. Much better than the Pac-10 or SEC.

 

[WaymanFan]

You are still defending the worst coach in the history of Oklahoma basketball? I mean, you pimped the hell out of him so I understand the position it puts you in. But a simple, "I was wrong" is way more admirable than complete and total lunacy.

You may want to follow your own advice and come out with a simple "I was wrong" with what you said that's bolded. Sadly, Boca's opinion is actually closer to the truth than yours, even though you're both out in left field. For the record, coach Capel is #7 out of 12 OU coaches in win %, and tied for first out of 12 in NCAA Tournament win %. There is also an OU coach with a 71-97 career record with zero NCAA Tournaments. These are all statements of FACT, not my opinion.

 

[stoops4pres]

If you really want to argue, you will need to get past this one potato two potato thought process. They built their stats with soft non-conference schedules and against the bottom half of their own league.

Taking the position that the Mountain West is a better basketball conference than the SEC, ACC, and Pac 10 is OK with me. But, my best advice would be, don't gamble on basketball games.

Do you mind interpreting this "process"? Never heard of this concept before.

 

[DenverSooner]

You may want to follow your own advice and come out with a simple "I was wrong" with what you said that's bolded. Sadly, Boca's opinion is actually closer to the truth than yours, even though you're both out in left field. For the record, coach Capel is #7 out of 12 OU coaches in win %, and tied for first out of 12 in NCAA Tournament win %. There is also an OU coach with a 71-97 career record with zero NCAA Tournaments. These are all statements of FACT, not my opinion.

Arguments about NCAA winning percentages that do not take into consideration that Capel failed to make the post season in 3 of 5 years are bit ridiculous because they actually favor Capel over a coach that makes the NCAA but loses as a lower seed or loses an 8 v. 9 game. I think it is safe to say that most basketball fans would prefer to be in the NCAA and lose the first round than not even make the NIT.

I don't know if Capel was the worst ever but he is in the running. The guy did a horrable job at OU. One day he might be a good coach but he was very bad at OU. To compare winning percentages fails to recognize where the program was when Capel took over. He was given the keys to one of the best programs in college basketball and left the keys to a team that was one of the worst in the BCS.

 

[WaymanFan]

Arguments about NCAA winning percentages that do not take into consideration that Capel failed to make the post season in 3 of 5 years are bit ridiculous because they actually favor Capel over a coach that makes the NCAA but loses as a lower seed or loses an 8 v. 9 game. I think it is safe to say that most basketball fans would prefer to be in the NCAA and lose the first round than not even make the NIT.

I don't know if Capel was the worst ever but he is in the running. The guy did a horrable job at OU. One day he might be a good coach but he was very bad at OU. To compare winning percentages fails to recognize where the program was when Capel took over. He was given the keys to one of the best programs in college basketball and left the keys to a team that was one of the worst in the BCS.

Denver, since you're an attorney, I'm going to just assume your IQ is higher than mine. With that said, I'm really surprised you missed the point about the NCAA Tournament win percentage. Of course I'd rather have what Billy and Kelvin accomplished. But the point is, no REASONABLE person can conclude that the head coach with the highest NCAA tournament win percentage can be the worst coach in school history. When you add the fact the guy who replaced Bruce Drake went 71-97 without a single NCAA tournament appearance in 7 years, then it makes the claim even more ridiculous.

In lawyer terms, it's like when a judge decides to enter a verdict of "not guilty" for a defendent before the case goes to jury because "No reasonable jury would be able to conclude the defendent is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt."...or something like that.

Sorry...another bad habit of mine...getting off topic. I'm sticking with my opinion this is a solid NIT team.