Would you rather ...

[coolm]

... have a policy of taking super one and dones or focus on recruiting guys with good offensive skills who will likely stay for 4-5?

 

[skyvue]

A little of both would be nice, of course, but I'll choose the latter option. I like seeing guys progress, as this senior class has done so nicely. And I like having my guys around for the full four years and who love being Sooners as much as I love cheering for the Sooners.

 

[OUReality]

Personally, I enjoy watching players develop their game on the college level. So I would vote for recruiting players who will be here for 4-5 years. Plus I feel more invested in players like Cousins & Buddy since I have followed them since their freshman year.

 

[coolm]

Personally, I enjoy watching players develop their game on the college level. So I would vote for recruiting players who will be here for 4-5 years. Plus I feel more invested in players like Cousins & Buddy since I have followed them since their freshman year.

thats how I feel but I know some like the other side.

 

[AdaSooner]

I wouldn't mind seeing OU sign a one and done type on occasion, but I'm perfectly happy with the 4-5 players our coaches are bringing now. Our recruiting class four years ago developed into a solid base that got the attention of another group of youngsters who seem to be cut out of the same mold. And, so it goes for the next three to four years and beyond.

I like that a lot better than a total rebuild every year or two.

 

[stormspencer]

A little of both would be nice, of course, but I'll choose the latter option. I like seeing guys progress, as this senior class has done so nicely. And I like having my guys around for the full four years and who love being Sooners as much as I love cheering for the Sooners.

I'm with you on both. However, I would never want to become dependent on "one and dones". Take tonight for example, Cal has aged 10 years because Kentucky was up 21 early and now trails by 8.....against a bad Tennessee team.

 

[Swans]

I wish they'd get rid of the 19 yo rule. One and done has bastardized the college game.

 

[opsooner]

Almost always 4 year guys. I don't know how many 1-and-dones we will get anyway - but would like only 1 per year even if we could get them.

 

[chuckb]

I wish they'd get rid of the 19 yo rule. One and done has bastardized the college game.

This is an NBA rule that they instituted to get more publicity for the draft. When kids could go straight from high school to the NBA nobody knew the kids who were being drafted so it wasn't such a big event. They wanted these kids to get exposure in college for a year to make the Draft more of an event for the league so they put the rule into effect.

 

[Zimwillett]

I think there's some recency bias on the value of "one and dones" based on what Duke and Kentucky have done the last few seasons. Since 2000, more often than not, the eventual national champs are led by veterans:

2015 Duke: led by one and dones.
2014 UCONN: veteran backcourt led by senior Napier and junior Boatright.
2013 Louisville: all around veteran team.
2012 Kentucky: one and dones.
2011 UCONN: Kemba Walker was a junior.
2010 Duke: Very veteran team led by juniors Singler and Nolan Smith.
2009 UNC: Led by senior Hansbrough and juniors Ellington and Lawson.
2008 Kansas: Chalmers and Rush were juniors, Arthur was a sophomore.
2007 Florida: Noah, Horford, Green, Brewer were all juniors.
2006 Florida: Same guys were all sophomores.
2005 UNC: Felton, May, McCants all juniors with a major assist from one and done Marvin Williams.
2004 UCONN: Okafor and Gordon both juniors
2003 Syracuse: Carmelo was a one and done.
2002 Maryland: Dixon and Baxter were seniors, Blake and Wilcox were juniors.
2001 Duke: Battier was a senior, and J Will, Boozer and Dunlevy were all sophomores.
2000 MSU: Cleaves and Peterson were seniors complimented by super freshman Richardson.

That's not to say there weren't major contributions by freshmen in several of those years, but as a rule, to win the national title, you need your stars to be veteran players.

 

[Swans]

This is an NBA rule that they instituted to get more publicity for the draft. When kids could go straight from high school to the NBA nobody knew the kids who were being drafted so it wasn't such a big event. They wanted these kids to get exposure in college for a year to make the Draft more of an event for the league so they put the rule into effect.

I know the rule, but it's kind of stupid and hurts the college game IMO. How well do people/fans know the foreign players that comprise about 1/3 of the draft each year?

 

[j2d2]

Ideally I'd like to have two 4 year guys, two 3 year guys and a one and done to spark the coverage.

 

[bgrch1350]

I know the rule, but it's kind of stupid and hurts the college game IMO. How well do people/fans know the foreign players that comprise about 1/3 of the draft each year?

I think it helps the college game. I've love seeing Durant, Griffin, Simmons, Rose and so on and so on in college.

If you look at the 2012 class top 25 players...so many are still playing and the majority of them at least stayed til their 2nd year. More and more of the kids that would go straight to the NBA out of high school are staying more than a year b/c they get to college and they are exposed. Just look at Diallo and Labissiere...neither one of them would be in college right now and theres a good chance they will be back next year.

 

[Swans]

I think it helps the college game. I've love seeing Durant, Griffin, Simmons, Rose and so on and so on in college.

If you look at the 2012 class top 25 players...so many are still playing and the majority of them at least stayed til their 2nd year. More and more of the kids that would go straight to the NBA out of high school are staying more than a year b/c they get to college and they are exposed. Just look at Diallo and Labissiere...neither one of them would be in college right now and theres a good chance they will be back next year.

I understand what you're saying, but we don't know whether guys like Diallo and Labissiere would have been drafted right out of high school. By implementing the age restriction, the nba has put off some of the risk evaluation on some of these guys until they see how they perform against other "like" competition. It's good for them. If the nba instituted a rule like the one mlb has, I would find that more satisfactory.

 

[gwydion]

I'm not sure the one and dones buy into the team concept. They know they are out of there come April and it's all about making themselves look good for the draft. I know that's a blanket description but I think it's probably more true than not.

 

[bgrch1350]

I understand what you're saying, but we don't know whether guys like Diallo and Labissiere would have been drafted right out of high school. By implementing the age restriction, the nba has put off some of the risk evaluation on some of these guys until they see how they perform against other "like" competition. It's good for them. If the nba instituted a rule like the one mlb has, I would find that more satisfactory.

If those guys left now they would still be drafted this year.