WVU laying an egg at home vs Baylor

My best case is we finish 2nd in the regular season, then win the conference tournament. Whatever happens in the NCAA would be gravy.

Then if we get Buddy to return next season can be a legit Hollis Price type final 4 contender.
 
My best case is we finish 2nd in the regular season, then win the conference tournament. Whatever happens in the NCAA would be gravy.

Then if we get Buddy to return next season can be a legit Hollis Price type final 4 contender.

I think a second place finish in the regular season is doable, providing we take care of business at home and win the road games we'll be picked to win.

I'm not sure it's in our best interest to make it to the finals of the conference tourney? In view of our limited depth, I would rather see us get an extra day or so of rest for our starting five. I doubt if winning the Big 12 tourney will help us much with seeding anyway.

If Buddy does return, OU will be ranked in the top ten and picked as one of the teams to make a deep run March. The biggest problem we'll have is finding enough playing time for the deserving players on next year's roster.
 
If Buddy does return, OU will be ranked in the top ten and picked as one of the teams to make a deep run March. The biggest problem we'll have is finding enough playing time for the deserving players on next year's roster.

We will have A LOT of youth next year. I wouldn't expect guys like Buddy, Cousins, and Spangler to be any better next year. Thomas, though he maybe hasn't lived up to expectations, will still be a tough loss, especially if Manyang doesn't make it to campus.

That would mean replacing Spangler, Thomas, Lattin, and Bennett with Spangler, Lattin, Buford, and McNeace. Not sure that is an upgrade.

Hopefully one of the two new guards can give us better minutes than Booker/Walker have this year, assuming those two don't pick it up. I had higher expectations for Booker's shooting.
 
I'm not sure it's in our best interest to make it to the finals of the conference tourney? In view of our limited depth, I would rather see us get an extra day or so of rest for our starting five. I doubt if winning the Big 12 tourney will help us much with seeding anyway.

I may be in the minority but would rather win the conference tournament over a little success in the NCAA tournament.

Winning the Big XII Tournament is a major accomplishment that goes in the history books forever. Making the sweet 16 is quickly forgotten. No way I would trade a championship for rest due to losing to a rival.
 
I may be in the minority but would rather win the conference tournament over a little success in the NCAA tournament.

Winning the Big XII Tournament is a major accomplishment that goes in the history books forever. Making the sweet 16 is quickly forgotten. No way I would trade a championship for rest due to losing to a rival.

Yeah, good point. Championships come with a trophy and memories that are not soon forgotten.

I retract what I said. Win the title and rest later!
 
Sweet 16's are not soon forgotten except at the elite programs. The year we played Michigan State in the Sweet 16 is still well-remembered among Sooner fans.

And I'd take the regular-season conference title (the one the conference, based on its current TV ads, considers the true championship) over the Big 12 tourney title every time.
 
I don't consider a regular season champion to be a real champion. So I'll take the conference tourney every time.
There's a tournament for a reason. Kentucky isn't going to get a regular season national championship trophy.
 
I don't consider a regular season champion to be a real champion. So I'll take the conference tourney every time.
There's a tournament for a reason. Kentucky isn't going to get a regular season national championship trophy.

Agreed! I've never understood how the champions at evey level of basketball are determined from winning a tournament. Except somehow college basketball we are supposed to create a new rule that a regular season champion is the real champ. I think it's propaganda disseminated by the Kansas' of the world who have a massive home court advantage that disappears on a neutral court and they fall on their face more often than not.

In basketball champions are crowned at tournaments. Period. High school, college and NBA. Conference and national.
 
I don't consider a regular season champion to be a real champion. So I'll take the conference tourney every time.
There's a tournament for a reason. Kentucky isn't going to get a regular season national championship trophy.

Fair enough. The conference seems to disagree with you, however.

It's really apples and oranges, though. To win a regular-season conference title, a team has to play well for two months. To win a national title, a team has to play well for three weeks.

To win a conference tourney, a team has to play well for three days.
 
I don't consider a regular season champion to be a real champion. So I'll take the conference tourney every time.
There's a tournament for a reason. Kentucky isn't going to get a regular season national championship trophy.

You don't play all the respective conference teams in the conference tourney so how is it representative? It represents the teams you play and not the teams you could have played. During the regular season you play everybody both home and away and you get an opportunity to dish out your best shot and take theirs as well. Conference tourney (cha ching!)
 
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You don't play all the respective conference teams in the conference tourney so how is it representative? It represents the teams you play and not the teams you could have played. During the regular season you play everybody both home and away and you get an opportunity to dish out your best shot and take theirs as well. Conference tourney (cha ching!)

The regular season determines seeding for the conference tourney. Just like in basically every other sport of all time. You get a bye, you okay against the worse team, etc.

0% of conference tournament champions miss out on the NCAA Tournament. Regular season champions miss the NCAA Tournament every year. Alabama doesn't have a football national championship this year even though they would have been regular season champions, because there was a tournament afterwards that decides the real champion.
 
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