2 FTA in 2nd half

[soonerczech]

I'm not big on calling out officials, but this was really atrocious today. Multiple times with OU taking the ball to the basket there were no calls in the 2nd half while Texas got calls when players actually traveled and barely a finger was laid on them. I get tired of people talking up great defense when it should have been a foul called. Watch KU get those calls on Monday.

 

[MsProudSooner]

I'm not big on calling out officials, but this was really atrocious today. Multiple times with OU taking the ball to the basket there were no calls in the 2nd half while Texas got calls when players actually traveled and barely a finger was laid on them. I get tired of people talking up great defense when it should have been a foul called. Watch KU get those calls on Monday.

Yes, if UT thinks they will get those kind of calls against KU, they are in for a rude awakening.

Yes, Vern, it was walking you senile old fool - and Buddy didn't slip, he was fouled.

 

[JBaker]

We might have gotten more FTs if we didn't have guards coming up and deciding to shoot a jumper the second they cross half court.

 

[MsProudSooner]

We might have gotten more FTs if we didn't have guards coming up and deciding to shoot a jumper the second they cross half court.

That's weird. I watched the entire game and didn't see that happen once.

 

[oudna]

typical big 12 home ref job

 

[chuckb]

We might have gotten more FTs if we didn't have guards coming up and deciding to shoot a jumper the second they cross half court.

This.

When all we do is shoot jumpers, we're not going to get free throws. It's silly that every time we don't shoot many free throws people come on here and blame the refs rather than putting the blame where it belongs...on a stagnant offense. Players have to move. The ball has to move. And we have to get movement toward the basket. If we don't, we're going to keep complaining about the refs.

 

[oudna]

This.

When all we do is shoot jumpers, we're not going to get free throws. It's silly that every time we don't shoot many free throws people come on here and blame the refs rather than putting the blame where it belongs...on a stagnant offense. Players have to move. The ball has to move. And we have to get movement toward the basket. If we don't, we're going to keep complaining about the refs.

Hield got hammered twice on drives in the final 5 minutes that were swallowed.

 

[WTSooner]

Hield got hammered twice on drives in the final 5 minutes that were swallowed.

And UT feels like there were calls that went against them in the final 5 minutes too.

 

[Darwin]

I thought the officials were doing a good job until about midway thru the 2nd half well before the momentum shift but by about 6 minutes left it seemed like 5 on 8. Great thing about dvr's replay slow motion. If you still have it look at both times Buddy hit the ground. Don't look at his feet but both arms, how do you miss these on the ball handler. Yes I expect bang bang calls to lean to the home teams and this game wasn't that out of the ordinary but those are just 2 non calls that allowed the game to change character.

 

[sooner 1234]

I thought the officiating was really bad the first 10 minutes of the second half ..... Saying that our players made it easy for them .

We are a very selfish team the last month and a half at it shows in our win /loss record .
We run a horrible half court offense because we don't pass the ball or run a play .
We run our offense for the whole the game the at most teams do with 30 seconds left in teh game or half .

 

[MsProudSooner]

I thought the officials were doing a good job until about midway thru the 2nd half well before the momentum shift but by about 6 minutes left it seemed like 5 on 8. Great thing about dvr's replay slow motion. If you still have it look at both times Buddy hit the ground. Don't look at his feet but both arms, how do you miss these on the ball handler. Yes I expect bang bang calls to lean to the home teams and this game wasn't that out of the ordinary but those are just 2 non calls that allowed the game to change character.

Unfortunately, you are absolutely correct.

 

[soonerdanny]

Can we please put an end this tradition of whining about the refs every single time we lose? The refs were bad yesterday because Big 12 refs are incompetent jokes, but not because they were screwing OU over. There were plenty of calls and non-calls that went our way as well. If you make any effort to watch the game objectively, that should have been obvious. TX drove to the bucket relentlessly and we were content to run barely a semblance of an offense and jack up 3s much of the time. The former style draws a much higher rate of fouls (and shooting fouls) than the latter.

We lost for a lot of reasons: failure to drive to the basket, selfish play, the fact that one of our starting big men scored as much as a dead guy while the other couldn't post up a 5'10" runt of a SG, the fact that in 55 minutes of play between them they pulled down a combined 7 boards, bad shots by Cousins, dead legs in the final minutes (IMO), discouragement and poor D when shots wouldn't fall, and so on. The refs had nothing to do with it.

 

[scrybe]

Can we please put an end this tradition of whining about the refs every single time we lose? The refs were bad yesterday because Big 12 refs are incompetent jokes, but not because they were screwing OU over. There were plenty of calls and non-calls that went our way as well. If you make any effort to watch the game objectively, that should have been obvious. TX drove to the bucket relentlessly and we were content to run barely a semblance of an offense and jack up 3s much of the time. The former style draws a much higher rate of fouls (and shooting fouls) than the latter.

We lost for a lot of reasons: failure to drive to the basket, selfish play, the fact that one of our starting big men scored as much as a dead guy while the other couldn't post up a 5'10" runt of a SG, the fact that in 55 minutes of play between them they pulled down a combined 7 boards, bad shots by Cousins, dead legs in the final minutes (IMO), discouragement and poor D when shots wouldn't fall, and so on. The refs had nothing to do with it.

Kind of harsh, don't you think? I seem to recall OU driving to the basket numerous times, and it appeared to my admittedly untrained eyes that fouls should have been called on several occasions.

It's my contention that OU should have won the game, bad officiating or no.

 

[MsProudSooner]

Can we please put an end this tradition of whining about the refs every single time we lose? The refs were bad yesterday because Big 12 refs are incompetent jokes, but not because they were screwing OU over. There were plenty of calls and non-calls that went our way as well. If you make any effort to watch the game objectively, that should have been obvious. TX drove to the bucket relentlessly and we were content to run barely a semblance of an offense and jack up 3s much of the time. The former style draws a much higher rate of fouls (and shooting fouls) than the latter.

We lost for a lot of reasons: failure to drive to the basket, selfish play, the fact that one of our starting big men scored as much as a dead guy while the other couldn't post up a 5'10" runt of a SG, the fact that in 55 minutes of play between them they pulled down a combined 7 boards, bad shots by Cousins, dead legs in the final minutes (IMO), discouragement and poor D when shots wouldn't fall, and so on. The refs had nothing to do with it.

We'll just bow down to your brilliance. Will that make you feel better?

In spite of everything you mentioned, which is all true, we led most of the game.

More than one person has commented that the officiating wasn't that bad until the last 10 minutes or so of the game, much like the Kansas game in Lawrence, where there were few complaints about the officiating until the 3rd overtime. I don't remember many complaints about the officiating with regard to the KU game in Norman.

If it's OK for people to complain about our players or how timeouts are called or substitution patterns, it's okay to complain about terrible calls. And just for the record, I've seen complaints about officiating after wins, too.

 

[sperry]

Whoever coined the phrase about "death and taxes" being the only certainties in life should amend it to include message board posters whining about the refs.

 

[sheepdogs1]

We'll just bow down to your brilliance. Will that make you feel better?

In spite of everything you mentioned, which is all true, we led most of the game.

More than one person has commented that the officiating wasn't that bad until the last 10 minutes or so of the game, much like the Kansas game in Lawrence, where there were few complaints about the officiating until the 3rd overtime. I don't remember many complaints about the officiating with regard to the KU game in Norman.

If it's OK for people to complain about our players or how timeouts are called or substitution patterns, it's okay to complain about terrible calls. And just for the record, I've seen complaints about officiating after wins, too.

Was this necessary?

 

[MsProudSooner]

Was this necessary?

Probably not but sometimes, you just can't resist.

 

[soonerborn77]

That's weird. I watched the entire game and didn't see that happen once.

During the run that took away our lead and eventually got us blown out that is all we did. We had one guard just dribble around for 15 seconds than force a shot, no ball movement, no attempt to go inside. The lack of movement really killed us, I remember at one point we gave it to Buddy, rest of the team just watched and he threw up a turnaround 15 foot airball. I thought I was watching a NBA offense.

 

[MsProudSooner]

During the run that took away our lead and eventually got us blown out that is all we did. We had one guard just dribble around for 15 seconds than force a shot, no ball movement, no attempt to go inside. The lack of movement really killed us, I remember at one point we gave it to Buddy, rest of the team just watched and he threw up a turnaround 15 foot airball. I thought I was watching a NBA offense.

I don't completely disagree with what you are saying. But, the original post said:

We might have gotten more FTs if we didn't have guards coming up and deciding to shoot a jumper the second they cross half court.

We never shot a jum[per the second we crossed half court. We went for the home run shot (3 pointers) instead of going inside. But I suspect 2 things prompted that:

1) We weren't hitting shots the few times we did go inside earlier in the game.
2) We were being hammered when we drove the ball in the second half but the officials either ignored it or called travelling.

 

[soonerborn77]

I don't completely disagree with what you are saying. But, the original post said:



We never shot a jum[per the second we crossed half court. We went for the home run shot (3 pointers) instead of going inside. But I suspect 2 things prompted that:

1) We weren't hitting shots the few times we did go inside earlier in the game.
2) We were being hammered when we drove the ball in the second half but the officials either ignored it or called travelling.

Yea I think the original post was a bit of an exaggeration but it was maddening our lack of offense and how bad we looked during that scoring drought.