2024-25 Season Plus / Minus after Texas A&M

[BoulderSooner]

Name​	+/-​	MIN​	THIS GAME​
Jeremiah Fears	147​	414:58​	-5​
Kobe Elvis	146​	401:59​	6​
Duke Miles	142​	368:52​	-12​
Jalon Moore	109​	393:38​	-1​
Sam Godwin	91​	284:20​	2​
Glenn Taylor Jr.	75​	316:10​	-1​
Brycen Goodine	66​	170:52​	-1​
Mohamed Wague	45​	92:40​	-6​
Dayton Forsythe	28​	107:00​	DNP​
Luke Northweather	24​	202:48​	8​
Jacolb Fredson-Cole	10​	55:42​	DNP​
Reid Lovelace	-10​	05:05​	DNP​
Jake Moser	-12​	05:37​	DNP​
​	​

CONFERENCE ONLY

Name​	+/-​	MIN​	THIS GAME​
Jacolb Fredson-Cole	-2​	01:51​	DNP​
Dayton Forsythe	-3​	03:16​	DNP​
Luke Northweather	-4​	13:19​	8​
Mohamed Wague	-4​	05:07​	-6​
Sam Godwin	-8​	21:21​	2​
Brycen Goodine	-12​	20:21​	-1​
Kobe Elvis	-19​	31:49​	6​
Glenn Taylor Jr.	-22​	18:08​	-1​
Duke Miles	-23​	29:01​	-12​
Jeremiah Fears	-25​	26:20​	-5​
Jalon Moore	-26​	29:27​	-1​
Reid Lovelace	​	​	DNP​
Jake Moser	​	​	DNP​
​	​

 

[hoopsaustin]

Color me not swayed at all by plus/minus stats. I followed the thread all of last year and to me, I think they are just about worthless. It's largely luck and just about when you are subbed in or not imo. Am I totally off base?

 

[BCSooners]

Color me not swayed at all by plus/minus stats. I followed the thread all of last year and to me, I think they are just about worthless. It's largely luck and just about when you are subbed in or not imo. Am I totally off base?

For 1 game it can be skewed, but for multiple games in a row or a season I think it's an important stat.

You have to factor in how many minutes a kid gets and what is the team's average +-/game

 

[NorthCarolinaSooner]

I'll be honest....as a coach I've never used +/- extensively but I do think it holds value. Easy to see who is producing at a solid clip nightly and who is consistent.

I have a buddy who has won a couple of state titles who is a big time numbers person....he swears by +/- stuff.

 

[BCSooners]

I'll be honest....as a coach I've never used +/- extensively but I do think it holds value. Easy to see who is producing at a solid clip nightly and who is consistent.

I have a buddy who has won a couple of state titles who is a big time numbers person....he swears by +/- stuff.

I’ve used it more with lineups than just 1 person. But sometimes 1 persons +- is so different from the teams that you have to take notice.

 

[BoulderSooner]

I’ve used it more with lineups than just 1 person. But sometimes 1 persons +- is so different from the teams that you have to take notice.

i wish i had access to 2 man 3 man 4 man and 5 man +/- groups .. if anyone know where that is available let me know

 

[cbertus6]

i wish i had access to 2 man 3 man 4 man and 5 man +/- groups .. if anyone know where that is available let me know

You can sign up for a free version of CBBanalytics.com. It’s a great resource that I look at quite frequently, especially for advanced analytics. They do have advanced analytics for 2-5 man lineups as well

 

[BoulderSooner]

You can sign up for a free version of CBBanalytics.com. It’s a great resource that I look at quite frequently, especially for advanced analytics. They do have advanced analytics for 2-5 man lineups as well

awesome thank you

 

[BoulderSooner]

post Lindenwood Game 1
[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TH]

Name​

[/TH]

[TH]

+/-​

[/TH]

[TH]

MIN​

[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Kobe Elvis[/TD]

[TD]

34​

[/TD]

[TD]

23:51​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sam Godwin[/TD]

[TD]

26​

[/TD]

[TD]

28:33​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Duke Miles[/TD]

[TD]

25​

[/TD]

[TD]

24:34​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Brycen Goodine[/TD]

[TD]

25​

[/TD]

[TD]

14:43​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jalon Moore[/TD]

[TD]

19​

[/TD]

[TD]

25:18​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jeremiah Fears[/TD]

[TD]

16​

[/TD]

[TD]

26:03​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Glenn Taylor Jr.[/TD]

[TD]

15​

[/TD]

[TD]

26:28​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mohamed Wague[/TD]

[TD]

6​

[/TD]

[TD]

09:27​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Dayton Forsythe[/TD]

[TD]

3​

[/TD]

[TD]

06:50​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Luke Northweather[/TD]

[TD]

1​

[/TD]

[TD]

2:38​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Reid Lovelace[/TD]

[TD]

0​

[/TD]

[TD]

01:05​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jake Moser[/TD]

[TD]

-2​

[/TD]

[TD]

01:37​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jacolb Fredson-Cole[/TD]

[TD]

-3​

[/TD]

[TD]

07:25​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD]

​

[/TD]

[TD]

​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

 

[cbertus6]

From CBBanalytics.com, our best 4, 3, and 2 man lineups via net rating (I excluded 5-man because only 4 different lineup combinations had 6+ minutes together so far):

4-man lineup (min. 12 minutes): Elvis, Miles, Fears, Moore (+58.5 net rating on 12 minutes played)

3-man lineup (min. 20 minutes): Elvis, Miles, Moore (+50.0 net rating on 30 minutes played)

2-man lineup (min. 30 minutes): Elvis, Fears (+59.0 net rating on 33 minutes played)

 

[cbertus6]

Specifically breaking down Fears and his On/Off numbers:

When Fears is on the court: +38.9 Net Rating, 129.0 O Rating, 62.0% eFG%, 15.8% TOV%, 90.1 D Rating

When Fears is off the court: +27.5 Net Rating, 100.0 O Rating, 43.8% eFG%, 6.4% TOV%, 72.5 D Rating

 

[pnkranger]

Specifically breaking down Fears and his On/Off numbers:

When Fears is on the court: +38.9 Net Rating, 129.0 O Rating, 62.0% eFG%, 15.8% TOV%, 90.1 D Rating

When Fears is off the court: +27.5 Net Rating, 100.0 O Rating, 43.8% eFG%, 6.4% TOV%, 72.5 D Rating

He's the best freshman guard we've had since Trae. No question.

 

[BoulderSooner]

He's the best freshman guard we've had since Trae. No question.

and he is significantly better on D at this point in his career (while clearly not the shot maker)

 

[Soonerguy06]

Call me crazy but I think I saw a little more passion and defensive pressure so far than in players in seasons prior. Maybe this team will surprise us. It can't get a whole lot worse towards the end of the season then it has the last three before this one.

 

[BoulderSooner]

post Northwestern St

[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TH]

Name​

[/TH]

[TH]

+/-​

[/TH]

[TH]

MIN​

[/TH]

[TH]

THIS GAME​

[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Kobe Elvis[/TD]

[TD]

47​

[/TD]

[TD]

56:10​

[/TD]

[TD]

13​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Duke Miles[/TD]

[TD]

39​

[/TD]

[TD]

56:53​

[/TD]

[TD]

14​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jeremiah Fears[/TD]

[TD]

38​

[/TD]

[TD]

55:47​

[/TD]

[TD]

22​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jalon Moore[/TD]

[TD]

28​

[/TD]

[TD]

54:19​

[/TD]

[TD]

9​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sam Godwin[/TD]

[TD]

25​

[/TD]

[TD]

56:53​

[/TD]

[TD]

-1​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Brycen Goodine[/TD]

[TD]

25​

[/TD]

[TD]

14:43​

[/TD]

[TD]

DNP​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mohamed Wague[/TD]

[TD]

23​

[/TD]

[TD]

21:07​

[/TD]

[TD]

17​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Glenn Taylor Jr.[/TD]

[TD]

13​

[/TD]

[TD]

47:59​

[/TD]

[TD]

-2​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Luke Northweather[/TD]

[TD]

8​

[/TD]

[TD]

7:35​

[/TD]

[TD]

7​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Dayton Forsythe[/TD]

[TD]

1​

[/TD]

[TD]

11:52​

[/TD]

[TD]

-2​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jacolb Fredson-Cole[/TD]

[TD]

0​

[/TD]

[TD]

12:49​

[/TD]

[TD]

3​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Reid Lovelace[/TD]

[TD]

0​

[/TD]

[TD]

01:05​

[/TD]

[TD]

DNP​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jake Moser[/TD]

[TD]

-2​

[/TD]

[TD]

01:37​

[/TD]

[TD]

DNP​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]

​

[/TD]

[TD]

​

[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

 

[BoulderSooner]

post Stetson

[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TH]

Name​

[/TH]

[TH]

+/-​

[/TH]

[TH]

MIN​

[/TH]

[TH]

THIS GAME​

[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Kobe Elvis[/TD]

[TD]

75​

[/TD]

[TD]

90:46​

[/TD]

[TD]

28​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jeremiah Fears[/TD]

[TD]

48​

[/TD]

[TD]

75:14​

[/TD]

[TD]

10​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Duke Miles[/TD]

[TD]

47​

[/TD]

[TD]

82:27​

[/TD]

[TD]

8​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jalon Moore[/TD]

[TD]

47​

[/TD]

[TD]

82:47​

[/TD]

[TD]

19​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Glenn Taylor Jr.[/TD]

[TD]

29​

[/TD]

[TD]

75:18​

[/TD]

[TD]

16​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sam Godwin[/TD]

[TD]

25​

[/TD]

[TD]

77:26​

[/TD]

[TD]

0​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Brycen Goodine[/TD]

[TD]

25​

[/TD]

[TD]

14:43​

[/TD]

[TD]

DNP​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mohamed Wague[/TD]

[TD]

23​

[/TD]

[TD]

31:51​

[/TD]

[TD]

0​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Dayton Forsythe[/TD]

[TD]

15​

[/TD]

[TD]

29:23​

[/TD]

[TD]

14​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jacolb Fredson-Cole[/TD]

[TD]

10​

[/TD]

[TD]

28:37​

[/TD]

[TD]

10​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Luke Northweather[/TD]

[TD]

8​

[/TD]

[TD]

7:35​

[/TD]

[TD]

DNP​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Reid Lovelace[/TD]

[TD]

0​

[/TD]

[TD]

01:05​

[/TD]

[TD]

DNP​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jake Moser[/TD]

[TD]

-2​

[/TD]

[TD]

01:37​

[/TD]

[TD]

DNP​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]

​

[/TD]

[TD]

​

[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

 

[BoulderSooner]

post East Texas A&M
[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TH]

Name​

[/TH]

[TH]

+/-​

[/TH]

[TH]

MIN​

[/TH]

[TH]

THIS GAME​

[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Kobe Elvis[/TD]

[TD]

96​

[/TD]

[TD]

122:43​

[/TD]

[TD]

21​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jeremiah Fears[/TD]

[TD]

78​

[/TD]

[TD]

108:51​

[/TD]

[TD]

30​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Duke Miles[/TD]

[TD]

75​

[/TD]

[TD]

116:22​

[/TD]

[TD]

28​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jalon Moore[/TD]

[TD]

62​

[/TD]

[TD]

105:38​

[/TD]

[TD]

15​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Glenn Taylor Jr.[/TD]

[TD]

53​

[/TD]

[TD]

101:26​

[/TD]

[TD]

24​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sam Godwin[/TD]

[TD]

34​

[/TD]

[TD]

95:57​

[/TD]

[TD]

9​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Brycen Goodine[/TD]

[TD]

25​

[/TD]

[TD]

14:43​

[/TD]

[TD]

DNP​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jacolb Fredson-Cole[/TD]

[TD]

24​

[/TD]

[TD]

39:32​

[/TD]

[TD]

14​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mohamed Wague[/TD]

[TD]

23​

[/TD]

[TD]

42:21​

[/TD]

[TD]

0​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Dayton Forsythe[/TD]

[TD]

16​

[/TD]

[TD]

37:41​

[/TD]

[TD]

1​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Luke Northweather[/TD]

[TD]

8​

[/TD]

[TD]

8:41​

[/TD]

[TD]

0​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Reid Lovelace[/TD]

[TD]

0​

[/TD]

[TD]

02:11​

[/TD]

[TD]

0​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jake Moser[/TD]

[TD]

-2​

[/TD]

[TD]

02:43​

[/TD]

[TD]

0​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]

​

[/TD]

[TD]

​

[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

 

[BoulderSooner]

after Providence

[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TH]

Name​

[/TH]

[TH]

+/-​

[/TH]

[TH]

MIN​

[/TH]

[TH]

THIS GAME​

[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Kobe Elvis[/TD]

[TD]

92​

[/TD]

[TD]

156:58​

[/TD]

[TD]

-4​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jeremiah Fears[/TD]

[TD]

87​

[/TD]

[TD]

139:52​

[/TD]

[TD]

9​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Duke Miles[/TD]

[TD]

81​

[/TD]

[TD]

137:14​

[/TD]

[TD]

6​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jalon Moore[/TD]

[TD]

56​

[/TD]

[TD]

127:14​

[/TD]

[TD]

-6​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Glenn Taylor Jr.[/TD]

[TD]

52​

[/TD]

[TD]

128:03​

[/TD]

[TD]

-1​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sam Godwin[/TD]

[TD]

38​

[/TD]

[TD]

111:32​

[/TD]

[TD]

4​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Brycen Goodine[/TD]

[TD]

28​

[/TD]

[TD]

33:39​

[/TD]

[TD]

3​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jacolb Fredson-Cole[/TD]

[TD]

23​

[/TD]

[TD]

46:37​

[/TD]

[TD]

-1​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mohamed Wague[/TD]

[TD]

22​

[/TD]

[TD]

45:51​

[/TD]

[TD]

-1​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Dayton Forsythe[/TD]

[TD]

16​

[/TD]

[TD]

43:39​

[/TD]

[TD]

2​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Luke Northweather[/TD]

[TD]

7​

[/TD]

[TD]

22:17​

[/TD]

[TD]

-1​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Reid Lovelace[/TD]

[TD]

0​

[/TD]

[TD]

02:11​

[/TD]

[TD]

DNP​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jake Moser[/TD]

[TD]

-2​

[/TD]

[TD]

02:43​

[/TD]

[TD]

DNP​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]

​

[/TD]

[TD]

​

[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

 

[BoulderSooner]

after Arizona

[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TH]

Name​

[/TH]

[TH]

+/-​

[/TH]

[TH]

MIN​

[/TH]

[TH]

THIS GAME​

[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Kobe Elvis[/TD]

[TD]

96​

[/TD]

[TD]

184:55​

[/TD]

[TD]

4​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jeremiah Fears[/TD]

[TD]

94​

[/TD]

[TD]

173:16​

[/TD]

[TD]

7​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Duke Miles[/TD]

[TD]

86​

[/TD]

[TD]

164:17​

[/TD]

[TD]

5​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jalon Moore[/TD]

[TD]

63​

[/TD]

[TD]

162:45​

[/TD]

[TD]

7​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Glenn Taylor Jr.[/TD]

[TD]

56​

[/TD]

[TD]

155:20​

[/TD]

[TD]

4​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sam Godwin[/TD]

[TD]

42​

[/TD]

[TD]

121:08​

[/TD]

[TD]

4​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Brycen Goodine[/TD]

[TD]

22​

[/TD]

[TD]

45:51​

[/TD]

[TD]

-6​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jacolb Fredson-Cole[/TD]

[TD]

23​

[/TD]

[TD]

46:37​

[/TD]

[TD]

DNP​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mohamed Wague[/TD]

[TD]

19​

[/TD]

[TD]

52:09​

[/TD]

[TD]

-3​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Dayton Forsythe[/TD]

[TD]

16​

[/TD]

[TD]

43:39​

[/TD]

[TD]

DNP​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Luke Northweather[/TD]

[TD]

10​

[/TD]

[TD]

42:59​

[/TD]

[TD]

3​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Reid Lovelace[/TD]

[TD]

0​

[/TD]

[TD]

02:11​

[/TD]

[TD]

DNP​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jake Moser[/TD]

[TD]

-2​

[/TD]

[TD]

02:43​

[/TD]

[TD]

DNP​

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]

​

[/TD]

[TD]

​

[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

 

[cbertus6]

Our best 4, 3, and 2 man lineups with net ratings

4-man lineup (min. 35 minutes): Elvis, Miles, Fears, Moore with +43.5 Net Rating
3-man lineup (min. 50 minutes): Elvis, Miles, Fears with +49.1 Net Rating
2-man lineup (min. 80 minutes): Miles, Fears with +37.0 Net Rating

Also, Fears' on/off numbers below

On: +26.8 Net Rating, 123.6 O Rating, 96.8 D Rating, 16.4 TO%, 20.4% Forced TO%
Off: +14.9 Net Rating, 111.6 O Rating, 96.8 D Rating, 11.4 TO %, 17.8% Forced TO%