'24 NCAA Tourney Discussion Thread

[StoopsBros]

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Define western side

 

[WichitaSooner]

I don’t think we made One Shining Moment.

 

[AnotherSoonerInTX]

Define western side

Probably west of the Rockies. Texas has won a natty in football and KU has won a couple in hoops in that timeframe, so it's not west of the Mississippi.

Sadly, we have not.

 

[WaymanFan]

Define western side

My best guess would be Mountain and Pacific time zones. They only make up a little more than a third of the country, but it's an interesting stat nonetheless. I also didn't realize until last night that the Big 10 Conference hadn't won a Natty in hoops since the turn of the century (Michigan State). I've always had a ton of respect for the Big 10 since OU struggles against those schools in the NCAA Tournament. I think Jeff Capel was the only OU coach to get a W (against Michigan). We lost to Indiana three times, Michigan State twice, Purdue and Iowa - but we do own Arizona .

 

[WichitaSooner]

Probably west of the Rockies. Texas has won a natty in football and KU has won a couple in hoops in that timeframe, so it's not west of the Mississippi.

Sadly, we have not.

You could pretty much draw a line straight down the middle of the country and it would still be accurate. I guess Texas and Baylor are more or less right in the middle. KU would fall on the east side.

 

[steverocks35]

The Final Four was a snoozefest.

 

[IndySooner]

The Final Four was a snoozefest.

Women's was much better.

 

[steverocks35]

Women's was much better.

By a wide margin

 

[NickZepp]

You could pretty much draw a line straight down the middle of the country and it would still be accurate. I guess Texas and Baylor are more or less right in the middle. KU would fall on the east side.

KU is slightly east of Baylor/Austin. Not as much as a difference as you would think though.

Since the Wooden Dynasty era ended in 1975 there have been only 3 teams West of Texas win a title.

UNLV 1990
UCLA 1995
Arizona 1997

 

[steverocks35]

KU is slightly east of Baylor/Austin. Not as much as a difference as you would think though.

Since the Wooden Dynasty era ended in 1975 there have been only 3 teams West of Texas win a title.

UNLV 1990
UCLA 1995
Arizona 1997

I don't have the exact numbers in front of me, but I would guess that there are many more universities in the East as opposed to the West. Many sparsely populated states only have one P5 school, and some have zero.

 

[steverocks35]

I don't have the exact numbers in front of me, but I would guess that there are many more universities in the East as opposed to the West. Many sparsely populated states only have one P5 school, and some have zero.

Power Five conferences and member universities

ACC	Big Ten	Big 12	Pac-12	SEC
Boston College	Illinois	Baylor	Arizona	Alabama
Clemson	Indiana	BYU	Arizona State	Arkansas
Duke	Iowa	Cincinnati	California	Auburn
Florida State	Maryland	Houston	UCLA	Florida
Georgia Tech	Michigan	Iowa State	Colorado	Georgia
Louisville	Michigan State	Kansas	Oregon	Kentucky
Miami (FL)	Minnesota	Kansas State	Oregon State	LSU
North Carolina	Nebraska	Oklahoma	USC	Ole Miss
NC State	Northwestern	Oklahoma State	Stanford	Mississippi State
Pittsburgh	Ohio State	TCU	Utah	Missouri
Syracuse	Penn State	Texas	Washington	South Carolina
Virginia	Purdue	Texas Tech	Washington State	Tennessee
Virginia Tech	Rutgers	UCF		Texas A&M
Wake Forest	Wisconsin	West Virginia		Vanderbilt
Notre Dame*

As you can see, there are a lot more schools in the P5 in the East than in the West. I think you can throw in a few schools like Gonzaga that also have a chance to win in March but other than that you can see that it definitely skews East.

 

[TEvans4Three]

Power Five conferences and member universities

ACC	Big Ten	Big 12	Pac-12	SEC
Boston College	Illinois	Baylor	Arizona	Alabama
Clemson	Indiana	BYU	Arizona State	Arkansas
Duke	Iowa	Cincinnati	California	Auburn
Florida State	Maryland	Houston	UCLA	Florida
Georgia Tech	Michigan	Iowa State	Colorado	Georgia
Louisville	Michigan State	Kansas	Oregon	Kentucky
Miami (FL)	Minnesota	Kansas State	Oregon State	LSU
North Carolina	Nebraska	Oklahoma	USC	Ole Miss
NC State	Northwestern	Oklahoma State	Stanford	Mississippi State
Pittsburgh	Ohio State	TCU	Utah	Missouri
Syracuse	Penn State	Texas	Washington	South Carolina
Virginia	Purdue	Texas Tech	Washington State	Tennessee
Virginia Tech	Rutgers	UCF		Texas A&M
Wake Forest	Wisconsin	West Virginia		Vanderbilt
Notre Dame*

As you can see, there are a lot more schools in the P5 in the East than in the West. I think you can throw in a few schools like Gonzaga that also have a chance to win in March but other than that you can see that it definitely skews East.

If we are being generous and counting Gonzaga + Bible Belt and left... that is 24 teams to 42 teams. (Based on the list plus Zags)

 

[daqman]

The Final Four was a snoozefest.

I disagree. The Bama/Uconn game was really good and even the final was very entertaining.
You must not appreciate good basketball.
Unfortunately, it highlights how far away OU is from the final 4 wrt talent.
I guess I'm ok with that. I'm not going to whine about other people not providing the money it takes to buy talented players it would take to make a final 4.
The state of college sports, and sports in general, isn't really a model to be proud of for any fans.

 

[steverocks35]

I disagree. The Bama/Uconn game was really good and even the final was very entertaining.
You must not appreciate good basketball.
Unfortunately, it highlights how far away OU is from the final 4 wrt talent.
I guess I'm ok with that. I'm not going to whine about other people not providing the money it takes to buy talented players it would take to make a final 4.
The state of college sports, and sports in general, isn't really a model to be proud of for any fans.

To each his own but I assure you I do appreciate good basketball. The final was like watching paint dry though. It was boring, and the 2nd half was not competitive.

 

[NickZepp]

This was overall the worst NCAA Tournament we've had in a while. There was some cool things with the NC State run. Oakland was a decent story. Texas A&M/Houston was a classic but the final 4 games were all lackluster. Not a ton of real upsets. Lots more one sided games than usual.

 

[WichitaSooner]

This was overall the worst NCAA Tournament we've had in a while. There was some cool things with the NC State run. Oakland was a decent story. Texas A&M/Houston was a classic but the final 4 games were all lackluster. Not a ton of real upsets. Lots more one sided games than usual.

UCONN is arguably the most dominant team the sport has seen in a long time, especially in the tourney, and is loaded with pros. Bama played them toe to toe for the majority of the game and was tied with under 10 to play in a fast-paced game. Not sure how you would call that game lackluster.

 

[Hecubus]

Wish Houston had not lost Shead early in that game. Would have liked to see that team at full strength against UConn.

 

[NMSooner'80]

It was weird to watch that game without hating one or both teams. That took some pressure off of watching it. Now if it'd been Kansas vs. Duke, then the TV would have been on anything else but the game.

I'm also thinking the day after about how odd the NBA tends to do things with the draft. Zach Edey should have probably been in the league already. But the NBA "brass" would probably take Bronny James over Edey nine times out of 10.

 

[WichitaSooner]

It was weird to watch that game without hating one or both teams. That took some pressure off of watching it. Now if it'd been Kansas vs. Duke, then the TV would have been on anything else but the game.

I'm also thinking the day after about how odd the NBA tends to do things with the draft. Zach Edey should have probably been in the league already. But the NBA "brass" would probably take Bronny James over Edey nine times out of 10.

What do you mean “should” be in the league already? Is their job to draft guys based on who had the most college success, without concerning themselves with how he will likely be able to play against NBA athletes? He will be drafted and will get a chance, and might even carve out a decent career. But there are valid reasons why he would have been a fringe draft prospect had he come out last season.