Anyone listening to the Animal?

[stoops4pres]

I love Norman, but Columbia is a very cool town. I'd put it close to the top of Big 12 campus towns/cities.

Austin is clearly #1, but after that it would be any of the 3 of Norman, Lawrence or Columbia.

As much as I hate Kansas, I'm not going to lie seeing the entire streets covered after KU won the title in '08 was one of the cooler things I've seen from a college atmosphere standpoint. It looked like Bourbon Street during Mardi Gras.

 

[stoops4pres]

Ask stoops4pres, think he was like #73 or something coming out of HS.

Greatest basketball player since Teen Wolf. Without question.

 

[StoopsBros]

Columbia is a nice town. I just wouldn't want to be trapped in the middle of Missouri. At least Norman has OKC to tie itself with and not too far from DFW. St. Louis is only an hour/and a half away and does give you a lot to do. I guess I'm just an Okie so that was a biased perspective.

 

[InExile]

Austin
Boulder
Lawerence
Columbia

This would be my order of preference of towns to live in as a college student in the Big 12. I might switch the bottom two, toss up.

The rest are unexciting. Anyone thinking Norman is close to these towns doesn't travel much.

On Edit: Columbia is about equal distance from KC and St L. 2 hrs (ish). Closer than Norman to Dallas.

 

[StoopsBros]

Austin
Boulder
Lawerence
Columbia

This would be my order of preference of towns to live in as a college student in the Big 12. I might switch the bottom two, toss up.

The rest are unexciting. Anyone thinking Norman is close to these towns doesn't travel much.

No you're assuming that everyone is a college student. Heck yes, when I was a student I would have wanted to party hard in probably Austin or Boulder, but as you get older you look for more important things...like kid's activities, crime-free cities, economy, etc, etc.

 

[colston15]

Missouri is a basketball school. Oklahoma is not. That's the difference. If the measure of judging who has a better program was merely success, OU clearly would come out on top.

Unfortunately, Mizzou has a better (basketball) fan base, a nicer arena and gives basketball a higher priority than OU does. Thus, people perceive Missouri as a better program.

Oh, and it helps that they don't have a wanna-be, media created, "basketball school" an hour north like we do.

 

[InExile]

No you're assuming that everyone is a college student. Heck yes, when I was a student I would have wanted to party hard in probably Austin or Boulder, but as you get older you look for more important things...like kid's activities, crime-free cities, economy, etc, etc.

Ah, point taken. For the family approach I'd go with (in no real order):

Stillwater (I know, I know but your criteria fits Stillwater)
Norman
Columbia (ooh, there it is again)

These three seem to be nice college towns where you can raise a family without too much issue. They aren't too far north and aren't in Northern Mexico.

Iowa State and Neb are too cold.
KState, blah, as are the rest of the Texas towns.

 

[qwertyqaz]

Austin and Lawrence are both great towns, probably tops IMO in the conference.

Everyone has a different view on things of course, but as for me, I MUCH prefer Norman to Columbia by a landslide, and other than Norman I've been to Columbia the most. But that's why there's a kind of city for everyone!

 

[NorthCarolinaSooner]

Okay answer this very hypothetical question....

Let's say the Mizzou job and the OU job opened up tomorrow...Everyone's (on this board, not mine) favorite unemployed coach, Billy Clyde, is the frontrunner for both gigs...

Which one does he choose?

He chooses the one that opens the vault and gives him the most money.

 

[seniorsooner]

Lubbock is easily the best locale in the conference if not the entire Southwest.

 

[StoopsBros]

He chooses the one that opens the vault and gives him the most money.

Ok, $1.3 mill at both and free natty light/coeds...

 

[DenverSooner]

What do people like about Austin? I guess I don't get it. I view Austin about like OKC or Tulsa.

 

[StoopsBros]

What do people like about Austin? I guess I don't get it. I view Austin about like OKC or Tulsa.

Has to be 6th street and that whole "keep Austin weird" stuff. It's not a bad area. Me and the Mrs. put some thought into moving to Pflugerville last year. I personally don't care to be amongst Austonians myself but to each their own.

 

[skyvue]

Unfortunately, Mizzou has a better (basketball) fan base, a nicer arena and gives basketball a higher priority than OU does. Thus, people perceive Missouri as a better program.

Basically what that says is, Mizzou is better at basketball than anything else. They're still not as good as OU, but they're worse at everything else than they are at basketball.

I'd also like to see the evidence of this "higher priority" you claim they place on the sport than OU does.

And I don't think the average sports fan around the country perceives Mizzou as better than OU at all -- not by a long shot. Are they better right now? Sure, but who isn't? Most folks' memories aren't THAT short.

But that's one reason I'm not willing to give Coach Capel two or three more years to get things straightened out (and I mean getting us back to the top four in conference) -- a program's reputation can change pretty quickly.

 

[colston15]

And I don't think the average sports fan around the country perceives Mizzou as better than OU at all -- not by a long shot. Are they better right now? Sure, but who isn't? Most folks' memories aren't THAT short.

I should have said that some perceive it as better. That's what I meant.

A sharp college basketball fan would clearly rate OU's program ahead of Mizzou's. But, most fans, and some media personalities apparently, aren't that sharp.

 

[skyvue]

I should have said that some perceive it as better. That's what I meant.

A sharp college basketball fan would clearly rate OU's program ahead of Mizzou's. But, most fans, and some media personalities apparently, aren't that sharp.

Gotcha.

But the national perception is, I'm convinced, strongly in OU's favor. We've had bigger stars and more tourney success over the past thirty years than Mizzou.

Mizzou has had no star that I can recall that was remotely of the caliber and reputation of Waymon and Blake. And as respected as Norm was, even he didn't have the national rep that Tubbs and, to a lesser extent, Sampson had.

 

[playmakr]

Only Missouri and OU fans would say Missouri has a better basketball program than OU.

 

[NickZepp]

What exactly has Missouri ever really done better than OU in basketball? And OU's basketball facilities are among the best in the conference outside of maybe Lloyd Noble. The reason OU's attendance is down is because we suck. When Billy Tubbs had his down periods in his last couple of years there were usually about half full even for some of the bigger games. And we scored about 85 a game. Missouri has similar issues with attendance. They aren't that good in size when they suck. When they are good or really good and in most big games they fill up. I think OU's actual history is better. Just look at the stats. OU's probably the 2nd or 3rd best program since the Big 12 began and probably the 2nd or 3rd best program historically in the history of all the conference teams. Missouri is barely top 5 in the Big 12 if that. And having no final fours kills them against some of the top teams.

 

[skyvue]

Only Missouri and OU fans would say Missouri has a better basketball program than OU.

Bingo. Very aptly put.

 

[Edmond_Sooner]

Only Missouri and OU fans would say Missouri has a better basketball program than OU.

Probably right....OU fans are very negative right now and arent seeing clearly (myself included)....Mizzou fans have never seen clearly and obviously think their program is better...