Ball screen

[AdaSooner]

A vast majority of the games in Texas have three officials.

Leave it to Texas to one-up everyone else.

Seriously, I didn't know that Texas uses three officials in high school games. I haven't officiated in years, so haven't really been interested enough to do any research on the topic. Any idea if other states use more than a two-member officiating crew?

 

[Sam]

A vast majority of the games in Texas have three officials.

Every 6A and 5A game I go to in Oklahoma now has three officials too.

 

[campbest]

Leave it to Texas to one-up everyone else.

Seriously, I didn't know that Texas uses three officials in high school games. I haven't officiated in years, so haven't really been interested enough to do any research on the topic. Any idea if other states use more than a two-member officiating crew?

A lot of it is up to the schools. For example, most every varsity contest down to the 1A level has three officials unless the schools only want two. Even junior varsity has three officials in some 5A games if schools want.

 

[AdaSooner]

Every 6A and 5A game I go to in Oklahoma now has three officials too.

Shows you how out of touch I am with changes at the high school level. Still, I doubt if anyone will argue that illegal screens are called more often at the college level.

Back on topic, I would like to see Coach Kruger incorporate more screens in our half court sets. Pledger is someone who needs plays run for him off of screens, because he doesn't have the foot speed or the handles to create shots on his own against the majority of defenders assigned to cover him. Coach is running plays for him now, just not nearly enough for arguably the best shooter on the team.

 

[campbest]

you would think players at a D1 school would be able to learn how to run a pick and roll or set a proper screen

There is more too it than just setting a screen, you have to remember the defense changes too. It becomes less about the act of the screen and more about the decision the ball handler makes on a dime while trying to read a defense.

 

[KBaden145]

There is more too it than just setting a screen, you have to remember the defense changes too. It becomes less about the act of the screen and more about the decision the ball handler makes on a dime while trying to read a defense.

It's basketballs version of taking what the defense gives you. So many options based on what the defense does. It's effectiveness was really emphasized in last seasons NBA playoffs. Roe and Fitz would be good options for screeners, good jump shooters. If they aren't good screeners though...

 

[suncoastsooner]

you would think players at a D1 school would be able to learn how to run a pick and roll or set a proper screen

Why? They can't even learn to do it in the NBA. That's the thing that makes it most difficult for me to watch random NBA games anymore. I find myself wanting to throw something because of the illegal screens that are just accepted as part of the game. Seriously, about 3/4 of the league gets away with between 3 and 6 illegal screens virtually every game. The lack of illegal screens called in the NBA is a travesty.

The art of running a legal screen is much more difficult than anyone realizes because they have been conditioned to be unable to recognize a legal and illegal screen by professional basketball.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

There is more too it than just setting a screen, you have to remember the defense changes too. It becomes less about the act of the screen and more about the decision the ball handler makes on a dime while trying to read a defense.

right. It's still something that a coach should be able to teach high D1 athletes to do

 

[Mr.B!!!]

right. It's still something that a coach should be able to teach high D1 athletes to do

I think it is harder than what you think it is, and coaching has nothing to do with it. As I said above, even in instructional videos on how to run it, the screen was not fully set. Now apply that to D-1 basketball which will call that a foul vs. HS and NBA that will not call that a foul. Here was the best example that I found:

http://www.videojug.com/film/how-to-run-a-pick-and-roll-play-in-basketball

This example on how to run the p-n-r would likely be a foul called in NCAA basketball, also note the slight push to get open, that would get called as a foul as well. Then you have to remember that a defense can pretty easily recognize what is about to happen at the NCAA level and defend it. At the HS level that recognition does not come as quickly and at the NBA level it doesn't matter because they'll let a guy get away with moving and then pushing to get open.

Solid thread though, gives me something to keep an eye on a little more at the NCAA level.

 

[campbest]

right. It's still something that a coach should be able to teach high D1 athletes to do

Basketball IQ is different than X's and O's.

 

[steverocks35]

The idea that we shouldn't set ball screens because we might get a foul called is ludicrous. We're just talking about setting screens as part of the offense, not necessarily the pick and roll. No decision to be made in this scenario.

 

[KBaden145]

The idea that we shouldn't set ball screens because we might get a foul called is ludicrous. We're just talking about setting screens as part of the offense, not necessarily the pick and roll. No decision to be made in this scenario.

Is somebody saying we shouldn't? I think the census is it is not worth doing unless it is done right.

 

[suncoastsooner]

The idea that we shouldn't set ball screens because we might get a foul called is ludicrous. We're just talking about setting screens as part of the offense, not necessarily the pick and roll. No decision to be made in this scenario.

Yes, we already have enough foul troubles . . . let us add more. :clap