Baylor under investigation by the NCAA

[HoHum]

With Dunn, the two football players busted for weed, and now this: http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/sources-ncaa-investigating-baylor-mens-basketball-101210 it's been a tough week for Baylor athletics.

 

[sys]

the text threatening to deport perea = wow.

 

[topcat]

I thought Drew had better control of things down there.

 

[HoHum]

"I guarantee u if he does [commit to another school] he will be in Colombia for the spring and summer and next year. Don’t forget it."

What a goof!

 

[AdaSooner]

I could be wrong, but something tells me the NCAA has been looking for an excuse to take a closer look at Baylor's recruiting practices. If Scott Drew runs a clean program, he is to be commended for doing a remarkable job the past few years. But when a school goes from the outhouse to the penthouse in a relative short time by signing or being in on the nation's top talent year after year, it's bound to attract attention. Guess we'll know in time if Drew is doing it the right way, or as some have suggested, he's bending the rules to get a few of those players?

Maybe DFW can shed some light on what is going on in Waco?

 

[Tony]

Well, I can't say I'm surprised. I, too, would like to hear from DFW to comment on all this madness. Seriously, no schadenfreude, I'm just curious for the Baylor side of all this.

 

[sys]

Well, I can't say I'm surprised. I, too, would like to hear from DFW to comment on all this madness. Seriously, no schadenfreude, I'm just curious for the Baylor side of all this.

there's plenty of schadenfreude on my end. drink it up, no greater pleasure.

 

[HoHum]

DFW on the Baylor boards and the national rivals board is pretty defensive, essentially saying Indiana is been dirty during Parea's recruitment as well.

 

[BigTime]

DFW on the Baylor boards and the national rivals board is pretty defensive, essentially saying Indiana is been dirty during Parea's recruitment as well.

Seems pretty overblown to me. Just bad pub for Baylor though (and at a bad time with their key recruiting battles heating up).

I do think that was a major bonehead move by the assistant coach.

 

[Sawyer]

The NCAA should probably be looking into the whole AHOPE program anyway. Its goals are more or less good, but it's a group run by Indiana boosters that scours Africa (and, in Perea's case, South America) for top talent, imports it to the US and just happens to place some of the best players right in Indiana's back yard.

If Indiana boosters ran an organization paying the top American talent to relocate to Indiana, that'd be a clear violation. But because they're bringing them in from third world countries, it's not viewed the same way. True, they do bring in a lot of players who don't end up at Indiana, but the top talent always has Indiana high on its list (Perea, Peter Jurkin, who's committed, Obij Aget, etc).

 

[Sawyer]

DFW on the Baylor boards and the national rivals board is pretty defensive, essentially saying Indiana is been dirty during Parea's recruitment as well.

You posted this while I was typing my response... but chances are Perea wouldn't even be in the US if not for Indiana boosters.

 

[sys]

DFW on the Baylor boards and the national rivals board is pretty defensive, essentially saying Indiana is been dirty during Parea's recruitment as well.

what is dfw's name on the rival nat'l board?

 

[HoHum]

You posted this while I was typing my response... but chances are Perea wouldn't even be in the US if not for Indiana boosters.

I'm not attempting to take sides one way or the other. I was just relaying what DFW has been saying. As for the investigation, it seems like the infraction is pretty minor, but I imagine you want to keep the NCAA off of your campus no matter how minor the initial accusation may be.

 

[sys]

You posted this while I was typing my response... but chances are Perea wouldn't even be in the US if not for Indiana boosters.

i thought the story was that baylor was instrumental in bringing perea to the united states?

 

[HoHum]

what is dfw's name on the rival nat'l board?

I'm pretty sure it is Fite.

If I'm wrong, I apologize to both DFW and this stranger named Fite!

 

[DFWHoopster]

here's my take. Baylor discovered Perea in Colombia. They recommended he attend high school in the states. They weren't "smart" enough to place him I guess. Indiana weaseled their way in there with Perea. They got someone close to this Adams guy on staff at Indiana to help IU have the inroads to Perea.

Who knows the full context of the text. But I'm guessing Morefield was upset that the rug was being pulled out from underneath him. It looks bad on the surface. But seems to me like Indiana orchestrated/set this up to try and eliminate Baylor from consideration. I'm sure the Indiana sources leaked this to the media. Looks genius on the surface- have to admit.

I don't know the answer to this perhaps someone does. If a kid from overseas comes to the states and has to have a legal guardian (in this case the AAU coach who wants to steer him to Indiana)... what happens when the kid turns 18? Doesn't his mom still have to sign the LOI?

 

[HoHum]

here's my take. Baylor discovered Perea in Colombia. They recommended he attend high school in the states. They weren't "smart" enough to place him I guess. Indiana weaseled their way in there with Perea. They got someone close to this Adams guy on staff at Indiana to help IU have the inroads to Perea.

Who knows the full context of the text. But I'm guessing Morefield was upset that the rug was being pulled out from underneath him. It looks bad on the surface. But seems to me like Indiana orchestrated/set this up to try and eliminate Baylor from consideration. I'm sure the Indiana sources leaked this to the media. Looks genius on the surface- have to admit.

I don't know the answer to this perhaps someone does. If a kid from overseas comes to the states and has to have a legal guardian (in this case the AAU coach who wants to steer him to Indiana)... what happens when the kid turns 18? Doesn't his mom still have to sign the LOI?

If he's 18, he can sign where ever he wants right? It seems like a parent or guardian would only have to sign if they're under age. That might not be true at all, but it seems logical to me.

 

[sys]

the legal guardian would be the legal guardian. 17 or 18 makes no difference.


the only complicating factor might be that either a parent or his legal guardian in the usa could sign. i'm unsure on that point.

 

[sys]

If he's 18, he can sign where ever he wants right? It seems like a parent or guardian would only have to sign if they're under age. That might not be true at all, but it seems logical to me.

no, the age to sign a loi without a parent/lg is 21.

 

[stanley11]

The NCAA should probably be looking into the whole AHOPE program anyway. Its goals are more or less good, but it's a group run by Indiana boosters that scours Africa (and, in Perea's case, South America) for top talent, imports it to the US and just happens to place some of the best players right in Indiana's back yard.

If Indiana boosters ran an organization paying the top American talent to relocate to Indiana, that'd be a clear violation. But because they're bringing them in from third world countries, it's not viewed the same way. True, they do bring in a lot of players who don't end up at Indiana, but the top talent always has Indiana high on its list (Perea, Peter Jurkin, who's committed, Obij Aget, etc).

Peter Jurkin......Really?