Billy Gillispie is getting it done recruiting at Tech

[thebigabd]

Daylen Robinson (5'10'' 175)
-Robinson led the Greyhounds in scoring and assists last season averaging 16.5 ppg and 5 assists per contest. Daylen was a first team All-Region XVI performer during his freshman year. In 2010, he won the Direnna Award, which is given annually to the top high school basketball player in the Kansas City area. Daylen averaged 32 ppg and was a 1st team All City and 1st team All State selection.

Rodrigo Silva (6'10'' 225)
-Center from Brazil who averaged 13.2 points, 9.5 rebounds, and 4.7 blocks per game as a junior college freshman. Will redshirt this year and have 3 to play at Texas Tech.

Dejan Kravic (6'11'' 230)
-6-11, 230-pound transfer from York University in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Kravic transferred from York University in London, Ontario, Canada ... averaged 15.6 points, 9.6 rebounds and 2.3 blocks as a sophomore at York ... ranked first in the conference in blocks and second in rebounding ... nationally in Canada, ranked second in blocks and fifth in rebounding.

Jordan Goodman (6'8'' 200)
-Combo forward who can play the 3 and 4 position. Committed to Georgetown, decommitted. Committed to Rutgers, decomitted. Then committed to Texas Tech. Had offers from Georgetown, Maryland, Rutgers. Has a reputation problem. Chose Tech to get out of an inner-city environment but by all accounts is a talented player.

It won't be long before Gillispie has that program turned around, just like he did at UTEP and Texas A&M.

 

[campbest]

Jordan Goodman (6'8'' 200)
-Combo forward who can play the 3 and 4 position. Committed to Georgetown, decommitted. Committed to Rutgers, decomitted. Then committed to Texas Tech. Had offers from Georgetown, Maryland, Rutgers. Has a reputation problem. Chose Tech to get out of an inner-city environment but by all accounts is a talented player.

Goodman won't last at Tech.

 

[Soonercuda]

Daylen Robinson (5'10'' 175)
-Robinson led the Greyhounds in scoring and assists last season averaging 16.5 ppg and 5 assists per contest. Daylen was a first team All-Region XVI performer during his freshman year. In 2010, he won the Direnna Award, which is given annually to the top high school basketball player in the Kansas City area. Daylen averaged 32 ppg and was a 1st team All City and 1st team All State selection.

Rodrigo Silva (6'10'' 225)
-Center from Brazil who averaged 13.2 points, 9.5 rebounds, and 4.7 blocks per game as a junior college freshman. Will redshirt this year and have 3 to play at Texas Tech.

Dejan Kravic (6'11'' 230)
-6-11, 230-pound transfer from York University in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Kravic transferred from York University in London, Ontario, Canada ... averaged 15.6 points, 9.6 rebounds and 2.3 blocks as a sophomore at York ... ranked first in the conference in blocks and second in rebounding ... nationally in Canada, ranked second in blocks and fifth in rebounding.

Jordan Goodman (6'8'' 200)
-Combo forward who can play the 3 and 4 position. Committed to Georgetown, decommitted. Committed to Rutgers, decomitted. Then committed to Texas Tech. Had offers from Georgetown, Maryland, Rutgers. Has a reputation problem. Chose Tech to get out of an inner-city environment but by all accounts is a talented player.

It won't be long before Gillispie has that program turned around, just like he did at UTEP and Texas A&M.

The first three guys all appear to be average at best Big 12 players. Goodman is super talented but good luck to Billy Clyde on keeping him eligible and happy in Lubbock.

 

[AdaSooner]

Gillispie will get it done at TTU. The quesion is, can he do it without attracting players with a troubled past? It won't be easy in a place like Lubbock.

 

[thebigabd]

The first three guys all appear to be average at best Big 12 players.

Based on what? Tall, good stats, older players with international experience. Sure, they may be average, but an average 6'10'' or 6'11'' center in college basketball is a solid pickup.

Gillispie will get it done at TTU. The quesion is, can he do it without attracting players with a troubled past? It won't be easy in a place like Lubbock.

Robinson and Goodman from this class have troubled backgrounds.

 

[Soonercuda]

Based on what? Tall, good stats, older players with international experience. Sure, they may be average, but an average 6'10'' or 6'11'' center in college basketball is a solid pickup.

They look to me to be guys that teams in the bottom third of the Big 12 have...good but not great juco guys. Goodman has the talent to get you to the top of the Big 12...but clearly there are issues which is why he is at Tech.

 

[Sawyer]

Notably absent from all those descriptions are rankings.

Almost every recruit that's ever signed with a major conference school has nice stats in high school or junior college.

Robinson was well known in high school but didn't get even a cursory glance from the local schools. He's well under 6 feet tall and not a point guard.

 

[thebigabd]

Notably absent from all those descriptions are rankings.

Almost every recruit that's ever signed with a major conference school has nice stats in high school or junior college.

Robinson was well known in high school but didn't get even a cursory glance from the local schools. He's well under 6 feet tall and not a point guard.

Pfffffttttt... These are the guys that Gillispie wins with.

Joseph Jones was a 3-star recruit, not really heralded or anything. Just a guy from some tiny town in Texas. The next year they signed some tall european guy named Antanas Kavalauskas who didnt even have a rank out of a kansas juco league. Acie Law was a 3-star, Jones was a 3-star, Josh Carter was a 3-star, Kavalauskas didnt even have a rank.

He took a team with guys "not rated" real well and went from 7-21 to 21-10. Then 22-9. Then 27-7. I dont think he had any highly rated guys the whole time.

He recruits a particular kind of player, and they defend like nobody else, rebound, and win.

 

[Sawyer]

Pfffffttttt... These are the guys that Gillispie wins with.

Joseph Jones was a 3-star recruit, not really heralded or anything. Just a guy from some tiny town in Texas. The next year they signed some tall european guy named Antanas Kavalauskas who didnt even have a rank out of a kansas juco league. Acie Law was a 3-star, Jones was a 3-star, Josh Carter was a 3-star, Kavalauskas didnt even have a rank.

He took a team with guys "not rated" real well and went from 7-21 to 21-10. Then 22-9. Then 27-7. I dont think he had any highly rated guys the whole time.

He recruits a particular kind of player, and they defend like nobody else, rebound, and win.

How many of those guys did he actually sign?

 

[boksooner]

So what you are really saying is that he gets it done as a developer of talent, not a recruiter of talent.

 

[Options]

Yes he will get it done

 

[dubyac]

getting it done in recruiting players nobody has heard of or seen...

 

[thebigabd]

getting it done in recruiting players nobody has heard of or seen...

The two juco guys have pretty good offer lists for this time of year. Goodman is a high level recruit if he can stick, and Kravic should be a good player as well.

Daylen Robinson
Offers: Texas Tech, Houston, Iowa, Nebraska

Rodrigo Silva
Offers: Texas Tech, Wichita State, Utah, UAB, Wyoming, Colorado

Jordan Goodman
Offers: Texas Tech, Georgetown, Rutgers, Virginia, Maryland

Dejan Kravic
Offers: Texas Tech, California, Rice, South Florida, Nevada, LA Tech, Washington

How many of those guys did he actually sign?

Just Kavalauskas I think.. But they went 7-20 the year before Gillispie got there with, Acie Law, Joseph Jones, etc. Gillispie takes those same guys, again, no more than a 3-star (and some unrated) with average offers, and turns the program around with them. That was a dead program. It was in the abyss. Now its a tournament team year after year.

He did the same thing at UTEP. The year before he got there UTEP went 6-24. His first year at the helm with these types of guys, he went 24-8 and was a finalist for national coach of the year.

Point is, Gillispie takes good players (not MCDAA's, 5 stars, etc), conditions them better than anyone else, teaches them how to play defense better than anyone else, and wins.

Nobody thought A&M could go 21-10 after just going 0-16 in the conference the year before. Nobody thought UTEP was going to go from 6-24 to 24-8. There is not a lack of talent on his current team, and there will especially be no lack of talent on next years team with the addition of these guys.

 

[Seymore Cox]

That is not a good class. Those guys aren't very good players.

 

[AdaSooner]

Point is, Gillispie takes good players (not MCDAA's, 5 stars, etc), conditions them better than anyone else, teaches them how to play defense better than anyone else, and wins.

Nobody thought A&M could go 21-10 after just going 0-16 in the conference the year before. Nobody thought UTEP was going to go from 6-24 to 24-8. There is not a lack of talent on his current team, and there will especially be no lack of talent on next years team with the addition of these guys.

You're right in that Billy G can do more with less than most coaches. He's a Kelvin Sampson clone in many ways, especially in his ability to motivate, teach kids how to scrap for loose balls and play hardnosed defense. His style worked well in College Station and UTEP. It did not play well to the masses in Lexington.

I don't think there is much doubt that TTU will be competitive under Billy Clyde's leadership. But I still say he will not find it nearly as easy to attract high-profile recruits to Lubbock the way he did at UK, and even A&M. Thus, if he develops a quality team capable of competing for a conference title, chances are he'll do it by bringing in troubled players like Robinson and Goodman, to go along with good but not necessarily great players to fill a roster. That's a formula for success on a conference level, but not one he can hang his hat on every season, nor will it measure up to the teams TTU will face on a national scale.

It will be interesting to see what BCG can do with the players he'll put on the floor this season.

 

[campbest]

Kavalauskas should have been ranked, he was solid in JUCO and probably the best player in the Jayhawk Conference behind Torre Johnson. If it weren't for JP Batista (who went to Gonzaga) he would have gotten more notoriety.

As for UTEP's turnaround, he signed probably the last great JUCO class which is the reason they were able to flip their record. Think it was Omar Thomas and Fili Rivera...can't remember.

 

[thebigabd]

That is not a good class. Those guys aren't very good players.

A.) Why?
B.) How do you know?

This Kravic kid looks like he has some real potential. 6'11'', can shoot, can handle the ball a little bit. Looks like a pretty decent athlete. He is redshirting this year because of transfer and will work on getting bigger and stronger.

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Daylen Robinson was the #1 player in KC out of high school. Put up very good juco numbers as a freshman (17 and 6), very good athlete, averaged 33 a game in high school. Whats wrong with that? His high school coach said that he hasnt had a player like Daylen since Tyron Lue.

Rodrigo Silva, again, another 6'11'' kid. Put up outstanding numbers as a juco freshman. 14 points, 9.5 rebounds, 5 blocks per game. 38% 3pt shooter. Had some crazy games. Had a game with 16 points, 13 rebounds, 13 blocks. Next game he had 18 points, 13 rebounds, 8 blocks.

Everyone seems to agree that Goodman is a high level guy so I don't need to justify him, but whats wrong with these other guys? Seems like most schools would be pretty happy with getting a couple of promising 6'11'' guys. I wish OU had some promising 6'11'' guys coming in. Dont you?

If OU had a class of Buddy Hield, Jelon Hornbeak, Dejan Kravic, and Rodrigo Silva I think most people would be thrilled.

 

[campbest]

Dave Telep is reporting that Goodman has already decommitted from Texas Tech.

 

[bgrch1350]

Patrick Patterson, DeAndre Liggins, Darius Miller, Josh Harrellson. Those are the solid recruits he brought to Kentucky where they had 2 of the worst years in basketball.

It amazes me that some of you want a guy that couldn't make the tournament with Patrick Patterson(among many others including Jodie Meeks) in his lineup over a guy who took his team w/ Blake Griffin to the elite 8. Your telling me that the duo of Willie Warren and Blake Griffin is in a whole different league than a roster with Meeks, Patterson, Miller, and Liggins.

I just don't get it. Patterson was a beast. Meeks was one of the best shooters ever to come thru Kentucky. And he couldn't make the tournament. And now we have a thread about the recruits(that no one has heard of) that BG is bringing to T.T.

 

[thebigabd]

Patrick Patterson, DeAndre Liggins, Darius Miller, Josh Harrellson. Those are the solid recruits he brought to Kentucky where they had 2 of the worst years in basketball.

It amazes me that some of you want a guy that couldn't make the tournament with Patrick Patterson(among many others including Jodie Meeks) in his lineup over a guy who took his team w/ Blake Griffin to the elite 8. Your telling me that the duo of Willie Warren and Blake Griffin is in a whole different league than a roster with Meeks, Patterson, Miller, and Liggins.

I just don't get it. Patterson was a beast. Meeks was one of the best shooters ever to come thru Kentucky. And he couldn't make the tournament. And now we have a thread about the recruits(that no one has heard of) that BG is bringing to T.T.

Nobody had heard of Buddy Hield or Jelon Hornbeak before they committed to OU. At least, I havent. I am sure they will be good players.