College basketball has been ruined

[SoonerinNC]

We just played a team that specialized in rough play. They haven't quite adjusted yet.

Part of the current problem is the officials that anticipate a foul and call one when it didn't happen the way they visualized. Several of those last night and unfortunately they happened to us. Particularly on the Buddy steal and a nice block by Spangler.

The other thing is we will continue to have the eternal protect the super star thing. It will be even worse with the new rules. When a Smart misses a driving shot the officials think he had to have been fouled or he would not have missed. Michael Jordon got a lot of breaks that way on offense and defense.

 

[AdaSooner]

I don't want an 86 80 game bc 60 free throws were shot.


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Seriously, the majority of games I've seen so far have not been a free throw fest like the one we watched last night. Give the players and the coaches time to adjust to the way the games are being called. The officials need more time, too. The coaches and players know the rules going in on every game. It's up to them to make the adjustment.

One more thing. Were you surprised that Tom Izzo was the first to complain about the officiating? I sure wasn't. Izzo doesn't like it, because he sees what lies ahead. He'll have to change his coaching style, and abandon the physical, thug-like style of play he has had success with in the past.

Izzo is a good coach, so he will continue to be successful. But, you know as well as I do that coaches like him and a few others I can name, can't be happy to see their meal ticket taken away to some extent. To that, I say, tough Tommy boy! Abide by the rules the way the game is supposed to be played, or quit coaching.

 

[Soonercuda]

Why the new emphasis on freedom of movement...the game was already ruined, hence the attendance you see at LNC and most college arenas:

From this article: http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2013/04/23/mens-statistics-scoring-and-fouls-low/2107661/

•Scoring in Division I men's basketball is at its lowest point since 1951-52. Teams averaged 67.5 points per game in 2012-13.
•Team 3-point shooting percentage declined to its lowest mark since the 3-point line was introduced in 1986-87. Teams shot 34.05% from 3-point range this season, continuing a decline that began in 2011.
•Foul calls reached an all-time low, and teams shot the fewest free throws of any season since 1976

 

[tycat947]

Horse hockey. Players, coaches and officials will adjust and the game will be better than ever. The hand checks and rough, physical play were what was ruining college basketball. This was a change that was long overdue.

Exactly! It was ruined by the mugging allowed the last 10 or so years! There will be an adjustment period, and it may be a year or two, but the game will be much better for it.

 

[tycat947]

One more thing. Were you surprised that Tom Izzo was the first to complain about the officiating? I sure wasn't. Izzo doesn't like it, because he sees what lies ahead. He'll have to change his coaching style, and abandon the physical, thug-like style of play he has had success with in the past.

Izzo is a good coach, so he will continue to be successful. But, you know as well as I do that coaches like him and a few others I can name, can't be happy to see their meal ticket taken away to some extent. To that, I say, tough Tommy boy! Abide by the rules the way the game is supposed to be played, or quit coaching.

EXACTLY! He's one of the fathers of mugging basketball (Sampson may be another!)

 

[oketex]

Guys,

I ref college ball for 25 yrs and looking at today's game (this season) I'm glad that I'm out. This will be the down fall of college basketball, it will only last a year before the coaches and administrators yell loud enough to make the changes, but for this year, college basketball is done as we loved it.

 

[BCSooners]

Love the rule changes and love that they are rule changes, not points of emphasis. Most people realized there would be a transition period. Just like the players, this is the first year that most of these officials call the game this way. They are trying to adjust just like the player. I think when both adjust (it might not be til next year) it will make for a much better game and have basketball being played like it was intended.

 

[AdaSooner]

Guys,

I ref college ball for 25 yrs and looking at today's game (this season) I'm glad that I'm out. This will be the down fall of college basketball, it will only last a year before the coaches and administrators yell loud enough to make the changes, but for this year, college basketball is done as we loved it.

oketex, my friend, we have been on the same page on nearly every topic coming down the pike over the years. Not this time.

The game as we knew it as players, not officials, had drifted so far to the physical side, it was doomed if it had continued to get worse. If I want to see a "contact sport," where the offensive player is handicapped by being bumped, banged and knocked around by defenders, I'll watch a football game, ice hockey or a game of rugby, where anything and everything is within the rules.

I applaud those who recognized the potential for disaster in the best sport on the planet, college basketball, and are now trying to correct their mistake.

You could be right, these changes may not last beyond this season. It's been that way with nearly every new emphasis on the rules we've seen for as long as I can remember. I hope you're wrong, though. Not because I want to be right, but because I truly believe the game will eventually go downhill if the physical contact coaches are teaching now continues unchecked.

It will be interesting to see if these so-called new rules begin to fade away as the season progresses.

 

[snydrosooner]

The only issue I have is the bumping of dribblers. If you put 2 hands on the oppoinit fine its a foul. But as seen in the seton hall game, it was too easy for the dribbler to bump into the ou guy who got to close and ou was called for a foul. I think they have to back off of that rule alittle.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

oketex, my friend, we have been on the same page on nearly every topic coming down the pike over the years. Not this time.

The game as we knew it as players, not officials, had drifted so far to the physical side, it was doomed if it had continued to get worse. If I want to see a "contact sport," where the offensive player is handicapped by being bumped, banged and knocked around by defenders, I'll watch a football game, ice hockey or a game of rugby, where anything and everything is within the rules.

I applaud those who recognized the potential for disaster in the best sport on the planet, college basketball, and are now trying to correct their mistake.

You could be right, these changes may not last beyond this season. It's been that way with nearly every new emphasis on the rules we've seen for as long as I can remember. I hope you're wrong, though. Not because I want to be right, but because I truly believe the game will eventually go downhill if the physical contact coaches are teaching now continues unchecked.

It will be interesting to see if these so-called new rules begin to fade away as the season progresses.

I think people are vastly overstating how physical the game has become. Vastly


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[ouleopard]

Coach Kruger said in a recent meeting that this same issue was started in the NBA in
1999 and it took a while for the players to adjust(and officials) but after that the game
was much better. Players are having to get rid of old habits before they can train their
hands and feet to react in the correct way. This will make the game much better.

 

[DenverSooner]

Horse hockey. Players, coaches and officials will adjust and the game will be better than ever. The hand checks and rough, physical play were what was ruining college basketball. This was a change that was long overdue.

I agree. It will be a better game with the new rules.

 

[thebigabd]

Coach Kruger said in a recent meeting that this same issue was started in the NBA in
1999 and it took a while for the players to adjust(and officials) but after that the game
was much better. Players are having to get rid of old habits before they can train their
hands and feet to react in the correct way. This will make the game much better.

Bingo.... Sorry Bill Self, Tom Izzo, John Calipari, Mike Anderson, and others. You can't mug people for 40 minutes anymore.

 

[earlpearl]

Horse hockey. Players, coaches and officials will adjust and the game will be better than ever. The hand checks and rough, physical play were what was ruining college basketball. This was a change that was long overdue.

VERY TRUE !! If they want to tackle people go play football. I do not mind jockeying for position on the blocks without the use hands, but grabbing and mugging on the perimeter allows less talented and less athletic players to compete via an unfair advantage.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Bingo.... Sorry Bill Self, Tom Izzo, John Calipari, Mike Anderson, and others. You can't mug people for 40 minutes anymore.

Lol I knew where this was all stemming from. Ou fans jealous of others teams success. You guys hope this will create more parity not better bball


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[SoonerBounce13]

VERY TRUE !! If they want to tackle people go play football. I do not mind jockeying for position on the blocks without the use hands, but grabbing and mugging on the perimeter allows less talented and less athletic players to compete via an unfair advantage.

More exaggeration. Nobody was tackling anyone


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[korgy]

It is easy to hate on it now as it is all still new but I will say that I think it is a good thing overall. The big men in the paint are still allowed to be physical when getting position so if you like the physical side of the game you are welcome to watch that part. Guard play will be improved and much more fun to watch when they don't have to worry about getting "mugged" every possession. The refs will learn to see who initiates the contact and the calls should be more fair as time goes on I think.

I don't think the game will ever die as some posters like to say. No matter what changes in the rules, the rule makers will see the effect on the game and the fan base and will learn to make the right changes. It sorts itself out in the end. Sure it is a roller coaster of a ride but isn't that why you strap yourself in the seat? To experience the ups and downs?

 

[hoopsaustin]

It's awful. I won't watch any games outside of ou. Rec league Is more intense than these ft shooting contests

 

[NickZepp]

College basketball has been tough to watch for years.

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[StatGeek]

Here's the way I look at it: If you go play a pick up game anywhere in the country; how many fouls will be called? Only the most egregious , that's the way I & most every D1 payer in the country came up in the sport. That is the heart of basketball in this country. IMO basketball should be a physical game. I think there should be way less fouls called than there already was before this season. More points doesn't mean more exciting, and more fouls certainly doesn't equal more excitement! The only change to the rules I would have made would have been the abolishment of the charging foul. While I'm on the subject, this whole somebody got elbowed let's go look at the monitor for ten minutes then call varying degrees of flagrant fouls is more unnecessary nonsense.

I know I'm in the minority, I just don't know why?