Current Events Thread

[mict085]

Then you might not want to render opinions until this statement is no longer true.

According to the black attorney general of Kentucky, the facts are this:

1. It wasn’t a no knock warrant. The cops knocked on the door and were executing a legal warrant.
2. The people inside the apartment were not asleep and they fired on the cops.
3. This residence was being watched for a long time due to drug activity.
4. The cops were fired upon and they returned fire.

These are the facts according to the attorney general of Kentucky. These facts show the officers did what they were supposed to do. No charges because there was no crime. The fact that the city settled means nothing. That’s not an admission of guilt, it just means the city would rather settle than go to court. That’s their decision and has nothing to do with whether the cops were wrong, which they were not.

Was it tragic? Yes. It could’ve been avoided had the dude not shot at the cops. This chain of events was started by a criminal shooting at the police. Period.

 

[BCSooners]

According to the black attorney general of Kentucky, the facts are this:

1. It wasn’t a no knock warrant. The cops knocked on the door and were executing a legal warrant.
2. The people inside the apartment were not asleep and they fired on the cops.
3. This residence was being watched for a long time due to drug activity.
4. The cops were fired upon and they returned fire.

These are the facts according to the attorney general of Kentucky. These facts show the officers did what they were supposed to do. No charges because there was no crime. The fact that the city settled means nothing. That’s not an admission of guilt, it just means the city would rather settle than go to court. That’s their decision and has nothing to do with whether the cops were wrong, which they were not.

Was it tragic? Yes. It could’ve been avoided had the dude not shot at the cops. This chain of events was started by a criminal shooting at the police. Period.

He thought people were breaking into her apartment & there's zero evidence that he's a criminal.

 

[thebigabd]

Serious question for the conservative folks on this board.....

It appears to me that Trump is legitimately trying to undermine confidence in t he election. Constantly tweeting about voter fraud, not committing to a peaceful transition of power if he loses, saying if he loses the election was rigged, etc.

Is this a problem to you guys? On any level?

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Serious question for the conservative folks on this board.....

It appears to me that Trump is legitimately trying to undermine confidence in t he election. Constantly tweeting about voter fraud, not committing to a peaceful transition of power if he loses, saying if he loses the election was rigged, etc.

Is this a problem to you guys? On any level?

I don't follow him on twitter but if he is saying some of the stuff that you say he is saying then yest it is an issue.

But I've seen this song and dance before. Liberals cry foul and twist words. Rinse repeat.

 

[sheepdogs1]

Serious question for the conservative folks on this board.....

It appears to me that Trump is legitimately trying to undermine confidence in t he election. Constantly tweeting about voter fraud, not committing to a peaceful transition of power if he loses, saying if he loses the election was rigged, etc.

Is this a problem to you guys? On any level?

Did Hilary think the previous election was valid.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017...ump-challenge-2016-election-legitimacy-242848

Has there been any evidence of state voter fraud in the past months?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/docs/pacei-voterfraudcases.pdf

Are there more voters registered in parts of California which exceeds those living there?

Have there been recent court rulings which changes the validation of voter signatures?

 

[WTSooner]

He thought people were breaking into her apartment & there's zero evidence that he's a criminal.

To be true, that is what he SAID he thought. I do tend to believe him since he only fired once, but Michael Brown's friend said they did nothing wrong and that Brown had his hands up and we know that was all proven to be a lie.

 

[steverocks35]

Did Hilary think the previous election was valid.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017...ump-challenge-2016-election-legitimacy-242848

Has there been any evidence of state voter fraud in the past months?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/docs/pacei-voterfraudcases.pdf

Are there more voters registered in parts of California which exceeds those living there?

Have there been recent court rulings which changes the validation of voter signatures?

You didn't answer his question and your link to white house dot gov hilariously recites numbers from the Heritage Foundation with no context or timeframe. But let's assume that all those cases of "voter fraud" happened in 2016 (they didn't, but let's assume that just for fun). The Heritage Foundation found 1,071 cases of "voter fraud." In 2016 there were about 58,000,000 votes cast. That means if every instance of voter fraud they found happened in 2016 it would account for .002% of total votes cast or such a meaningless amount that it's laughably negligible.

The rest of what you posted is just nonsense.

 

[thebigabd]

You didn't answer his question and your link to white house dot gov hilariously recites numbers from the Heritage Foundation with no context or timeframe. But let's assume that all those cases of "voter fraud" happened in 2016 (they didn't, but let's assume that just for fun). The Heritage Foundation found 1,071 cases of "voter fraud." In 2016 there were about 58,000,000 votes cast. That means if every instance of voter fraud they found happened in 2016 it would account for .002% of total votes cast or such a meaningless amount that it's laughably negligible.

The rest of what you posted is just nonsense.

You know, I had a very polite discussion with my very conservative uncle about this... and he brought up that same Heritage Foundation thing. Did some digging.

On top of 0.002% voter fraud stat you pointed it, it's way more absurd than even that.

On top of that, those aren't from 2016. It looks more like.... ever. 1,100 cases of voter fraud, EVER. Also, keep in mind, those numbers are not all relevant to PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS. In fact, I couldn't find many that were.. If you click on the details within them, they are for ALL types of voting. For example, several of the listings of voter fraud in California are for not following rules or breaking laws related gathering signatures for state referendums. Most of these have nothing to do with presidential elections.

One of the "cases" of voter fraud listed by the site for Oklahoma is Darryl Cates in 2012.... It was for a vote he cast in a Cave Springs SCHOOL DISTRICT ELECTION!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously, what the **** is this ****. This is absurd. This is propaganda.

I went to the Heritage website, and it allows you to select a state to see how they got their numbers. I clicked on Oklahoma.... 5 cases of voter fraud. Ever. 2012, 2018, 2019, and 2019. One of them didn't have a date on it. One of those 5 is the one I referenced above by some clown voting in a school board election.

I clicked on another one of the 5 from Oklahoma.... And it said the guy brought some absentee ballots to be notarized but its not legal for someone else to take a ballot to be notarized. It was probably a mistake.

Anyway, I am reading this, and I am thinking... is this a ****ing joke? The White House actually posted this on their website? 1,100 cases of voter fraud, EVER, in every type of election including local school board elections, people in Lowes parking lots getting signatures for public referendums, etc. That warrants Trump undermining the election and saying its rigged?

This is a ****ing joke. I don't normally get this pissed, but holy **** this is ****ing ridiculous.

 

[steverocks35]

You know, I had a very polite discussion with my very conservative uncle about this... and he brought up that same Heritage Foundation thing. Did some digging.

On top of 0.002% voter fraud stat you pointed it, it's way more absurd than even that.

On top of that, those aren't from 2016. It looks more like.... ever. 1,100 cases of voter fraud, EVER. Also, keep in mind, those numbers are not all relevant to PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS. In fact, I couldn't find many that were.. If you click on the details within them, they are for ALL types of voting. For example, several of the listings of voter fraud in California are for not following rules or breaking laws related gathering signatures for state referendums. Most of these have nothing to do with presidential elections.

One of the "cases" of voter fraud listed by the site for Oklahoma is Darryl Cates in 2012.... It was for a vote he cast in a Cave Springs SCHOOL DISTRICT ELECTION!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously, what the **** is this ****. This is absurd. This is propaganda.

I went to the Heritage website, and it allows you to select a state to see how they got their numbers. I clicked on Oklahoma.... 5 cases of voter fraud. Ever. 2012, 2018, 2019, and 2019. One of them didn't have a date on it. One of those 5 is the one I referenced above by some clown voting in a school board election.

I clicked on another one of the 5 from Oklahoma.... And it said the guy brought some absentee ballots to be notarized but its not legal for someone else to take a ballot to be notarized. It was probably a mistake.

Anyway, I am reading this, and I am thinking... is this a ****ing joke? The White House actually posted this on their website? 1,100 cases of voter fraud, EVER, in every type of election including local school board elections, people in Lowes parking lots getting signatures for public referendums, etc. That warrants Trump undermining the election and saying its rigged?

This is a ****ing joke. I don't normally get this pissed, but holy **** this is ****ing ridiculous.

Yeah after I thought about it for a bit I had a similar reaction. They put THIS BS on the official white house website? Is this a joke by an unpaid intern? If he tries to use this ridiculous nonsense to try to invalidate the vote totals it just shows how shaky their case is.

 

[BCSooners]

To be true, that is what he SAID he thought. I do tend to believe him since he only fired once, but Michael Brown's friend said they did nothing wrong and that Brown had his hands up and we know that was all proven to be a lie.

So you tend to believe him, but just to show you don't believe him you bring up Michael Brown?

Why would that man have any reason to shoot at the police? He had no warrants, I don't even think he had a record (might be wrong), there were no drugs or drug $$$ in the house, and no illegal activity was going on in the house.

 

[BCSooners]

You know, I had a very polite discussion with my very conservative uncle about this... and he brought up that same Heritage Foundation thing. Did some digging.

On top of 0.002% voter fraud stat you pointed it, it's way more absurd than even that.

On top of that, those aren't from 2016. It looks more like.... ever. 1,100 cases of voter fraud, EVER. Also, keep in mind, those numbers are not all relevant to PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS. In fact, I couldn't find many that were.. If you click on the details within them, they are for ALL types of voting. For example, several of the listings of voter fraud in California are for not following rules or breaking laws related gathering signatures for state referendums. Most of these have nothing to do with presidential elections.

One of the "cases" of voter fraud listed by the site for Oklahoma is Darryl Cates in 2012.... It was for a vote he cast in a Cave Springs SCHOOL DISTRICT ELECTION!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously, what the **** is this ****. This is absurd. This is propaganda.

I went to the Heritage website, and it allows you to select a state to see how they got their numbers. I clicked on Oklahoma.... 5 cases of voter fraud. Ever. 2012, 2018, 2019, and 2019. One of them didn't have a date on it. One of those 5 is the one I referenced above by some clown voting in a school board election.

I clicked on another one of the 5 from Oklahoma.... And it said the guy brought some absentee ballots to be notarized but its not legal for someone else to take a ballot to be notarized. It was probably a mistake.

Anyway, I am reading this, and I am thinking... is this a ****ing joke? The White House actually posted this on their website? 1,100 cases of voter fraud, EVER, in every type of election including local school board elections, people in Lowes parking lots getting signatures for public referendums, etc. That warrants Trump undermining the election and saying its rigged?

This is a ****ing joke. I don't normally get this pissed, but holy **** this is ****ing ridiculous.

Utter insanity

 

[sheepdogs1]

You know, I had a very polite discussion with my very conservative uncle about this... and he brought up that same Heritage Foundation thing. Did some digging.

On top of 0.002% voter fraud stat you pointed it, it's way more absurd than even that.

On top of that, those aren't from 2016. It looks more like.... ever. 1,100 cases of voter fraud, EVER. Also, keep in mind, those numbers are not all relevant to PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS. In fact, I couldn't find many that were.. If you click on the details within them, they are for ALL types of voting. For example, several of the listings of voter fraud in California are for not following rules or breaking laws related gathering signatures for state referendums. Most of these have nothing to do with presidential elections.

One of the "cases" of voter fraud listed by the site for Oklahoma is Darryl Cates in 2012.... It was for a vote he cast in a Cave Springs SCHOOL DISTRICT ELECTION!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously, what the **** is this ****. This is absurd. This is propaganda.

I went to the Heritage website, and it allows you to select a state to see how they got their numbers. I clicked on Oklahoma.... 5 cases of voter fraud. Ever. 2012, 2018, 2019, and 2019. One of them didn't have a date on it. One of those 5 is the one I referenced above by some clown voting in a school board election.

I clicked on another one of the 5 from Oklahoma.... And it said the guy brought some absentee ballots to be notarized but its not legal for someone else to take a ballot to be notarized. It was probably a mistake.

Anyway, I am reading this, and I am thinking... is this a ****ing joke? The White House actually posted this on their website? 1,100 cases of voter fraud, EVER, in every type of election including local school board elections, people in Lowes parking lots getting signatures for public referendums, etc. That warrants Trump undermining the election and saying its rigged?

This is a ****ing joke. I don't normally get this pissed, but holy **** this is ****ing ridiculous.

Do you equate school elections with presidential elections? Why?


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/19/nyregion/nj-election-mail-voting-fraud.html

 

[steverocks35]

So you tend to believe him, but just to show you don't believe him you bring up Michael Brown?

Why would that man have any reason to shoot at the police? He had no warrants, I don't even think he had a record (might be wrong), there were no drugs or drug $$$ in the house, and no illegal activity was going on in the house.

I believe Richard Jewell BUT WHAT ABOUT TIMOTHY MCVAY!??!? Checkmate lib.

 

[thebigabd]

Do you equate school elections with presidential elections? Why?

Uhhh, no. I don't even get the question.

You brought this Heritage Foundation thing up as evidence of voter fraud to defend Trump from undermining confidence in our sacred elections, and I tore it into a million pieces in a way that I don't really think is refutable.

 

[steverocks35]

Uhhh, no. I don't even get the question.

You brought this Heritage Foundation thing up as evidence of voter fraud to defend Trump from undermining confidence in our sacred elections, and I tore it into a million pieces in a way that I don't really think is refutable.

Do you equate e. Coli bacteria with elephants? WHY NOT????

 

[SoonerBounce13]

I don't know anything about the heritage foundation numbers.

But both sides are fooling themselves if they think there isn't voter fraud going on. It is quite easy to do

 

[steverocks35]

I don't know anything about the heritage foundation numbers.

But both sides are fooling themselves if they think there isn't voter fraud going on. It is quite easy to do

Voter fraud is an overhyped boogeyman used to justify voter suppression by the GOP. You're fooling yourself if you believe otherwise.

 

[thebigabd]

I don't know anything about the heritage foundation numbers.

But both sides are fooling themselves if they think there isn't voter fraud going on. It is quite easy to do

You are sticking your head in the sand here..... I just told you what is in the Heritage Foundation numbers... the other piece of information you need to know is that Trump is using those numbers to justify undermining confidence in the election.

Your second statement has absolutely no basis in fact or evidence.

 

[sheepdogs1]

Uhhh, no. I don't even get the question.

You brought this Heritage Foundation thing up as evidence of voter fraud to defend Trump from undermining confidence in our sacred elections, and I tore it into a million pieces in a way that I don't really think is refutable.

Undermining. Good one Carlin. If there were fraud at both a school election or the presidential election do you think it would be the very same magnitude. And spare me the drama queen antics with the "tearing it to pieces" (does the Jersey election fraud cited equate to the school election you went full dainty on). How about you heckle Trump while paying respects to Justice Ginsburg. I mean there's a lady in the casket and this is the best your kind could do. There are no instances where liberals will not go full arsewipe. NONE for scum is scum.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/24/rut...heckled-visiting-casket-at-supreme-court.html

 

[steverocks35]

Undermining. Good one Carlin. If there were fraud at both a school election or the presidential election do you think it would be the very same magnitude. And spare me the drama queen antics with the "tearing it to pieces" (does the Jersey election fraud cited equate to the school election you went full dainty on). How about you heckle Trump while paying respects to Justice Ginsburg. I mean there's a lady in the casket and this is the best your kind could do. There are no instances where liberals will not go full arsewipe. NONE for scum is scum.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/24/rut...heckled-visiting-casket-at-supreme-court.html

What in the name of all that is holy are you talking about????? Do you even know?