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Found out at lunch today that my uncle tried going last night, and 100% supported what is being said by others. There were some BLM folks that managed to get to the gates. They either didn't have tickets, or got turned away because of the BLM gear. Either way, they were being aggressive and blocking folks at the gate. Police and/or Secret Service managed to remove them peacefully, but it took some time. During that time, the event workers in charge of administering the temperature checks "left". Nobody could get in without the temperature check.

I'm not saying there were 10k people that didn't make it in, but there were probably 1-2k that didn't. Others (a friend of mine from HS) said the tickets didn't get sent to her phone until after 6pm, despite her "ordering them" days before. That in combination with the older crowd staying home (which they should) is what lead to the numbers. There were never as many folks (overflow) trying to attend as originally reported. That was either Trump's campaign drumming up talking points, OR there are strong rumors that non-Trump fans signed up for the tickets knowing they had no interest in going. Sounds like the campaign has some logistics to figure out before their next rally.

That said, unless you are calling myself or my uncle a liar, what I said happened this morning did in fact happen. My uncles is a Trump supporter, but he isn't going to lie about what he experienced.

Your story makes no sense unless you want us to believe that an hour before it started they stopped letting people in, because it was deserted at that point. If there were 1-2 thousand people that didn’t get in why didn’t they hang out at the outdoor stage and wait for the outdoor festivities? Instead there were zero people at the outdoor stage. Where did the 1-2 thousand trump people go? Why didn’t they wait outside with their tickets until they got in?

Your story makes no sense.
 
Correction: 6.5 million live streamed the rally last night. Meanwhile, someone needs to change joe Biden’s diaper.
 
Your story makes no sense unless you want us to believe that an hour before it started they stopped letting people in, because it was deserted at that point. If there were 1-2 thousand people that didn’t get in why didn’t they hang out at the outdoor stage and wait for the outdoor festivities? Instead there were zero people at the outdoor stage. Where did the 1-2 thousand trump people go? Why didn’t they wait outside with their tickets until they got in?

Your story makes no sense.

Why would they wait around?

And yes, that is exactly what happened. If you were watching the videos from a few hours before the rally, BOK had put stickers on every other seat on the lower level, to encourage social distancing. From minute one, they were basically cutting in half the number of lower level seats. I'm trying to find the report I saw a little big ago, but it said Trump or his campaign caught went of that and had them remove the stickers. That all makes sense to me, and appears factual. I saw the stickers before they were letting people in, and obviously they were not there by the time the crowd filled up, b/c they certainly weren't in every other seat. The report said it could have been that BOK was trying to limit the crowd (I'm not suggesting conspiracy), and when the temperature checkers got word that they had let what BOK thought was going to be the max in, then the Trump campaign said no we're not doing that, they simply didn't have the people in place to make it happen.

Two other points:

The main set of doors they were putting people in through weren't the ones they were filming before the rally. I was told most were being pushed through side entrances to control flow, and not the main entrances out front.

And second, I don't care how it sounds or if you believe it, but to some degree, it's true. Too many unrelated folks telling the same story. And again, I'm not saying it was 10k, but it was a solid 1-2k. And I'm still not buying the 6k number either. Bottom bowl was at least 85% full, and that is being conservative. If both bowls hold about 10k, counting the folks on the floor, I'm guessing closer to 10k. It's basic math.
 
Why would they wait around?

And yes, that is exactly what happened. If you were watching the videos from a few hours before the rally, BOK had put stickers on every other seat on the lower level, to encourage social distancing. From minute one, they were basically cutting in half the number of lower level seats. I'm trying to find the report I saw a little big ago, but it said Trump or his campaign caught went of that and had them remove the stickers. That all makes sense to me, and appears factual. I saw the stickers before they were letting people in, and obviously they were not there by the time the crowd filled up, b/c they certainly weren't in every other seat. The report said it could have been that BOK was trying to limit the crowd (I'm not suggesting conspiracy), and when the temperature checkers got word that they had let what BOK thought was going to be the max in, then the Trump campaign said no we're not doing that, they simply didn't have the people in place to make it happen.

Two other points:

The main set of doors they were putting people in through weren't the ones they were filming before the rally. I was told most were being pushed through side entrances to control flow, and not the main entrances out front.

And second, I don't care how it sounds or if you believe it, but to some degree, it's true. Too many unrelated folks telling the same story. And again, I'm not saying it was 10k, but it was a solid 1-2k. And I'm still not buying the 6k number either. Bottom bowl was at least 85% full, and that is being conservative. If both bowls hold about 10k, counting the folks on the floor, I'm guessing closer to 10k. It's basic math.

They would wait around because there was an outdoor stage SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED for the people that couldn't get in the arena. In fact, Trump AND Pence were scheduled to speak at this stage. You're telling me that thousands of people, many of which presumably would have traveled from long distances, had a ticket, waited in line for hours, were denied entrance, then said, "Oh well, let's not wait around by this stage for Trump to show up, let's just leave." Sure!

Also, there were cameras and reporters everywhere, yet there's not one picture or video of these thousands of people and not one of them made a single comment to any reporter, this would have been a huge story if true. Did they just magically disappear? Oh wait, I bet they were abducted by aliens! That's it, oh no! They're probably on a spaceship being anally probed RIGHT NOW! This is awful! Do you think the spaceship has a cloaking device to keep it from being detected by NORAD? I bet it's like a Klingon Bird of Prey. Oh wait, I bet it's like Boba Fett's ship Slave I. No that can't be right, that's too many people, he needs room for his carbonite block containing Han Solo.

It's just completely implausible that they all just disappeared and that not any of them waited at the stage for Trump or Pence to speak nor did any of them make a comment. Your story is not true, and the really hilarious part is that not even the White House is making this claim, it's just you! Amazing.
 
They would wait around because there was an outdoor stage SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED for the people that couldn't get in the arena. In fact, Trump AND Pence were scheduled to speak at this stage. You're telling me that thousands of people, many of which presumably would have traveled from long distances, had a ticket, waited in line for hours, were denied entrance, then said, "Oh well, let's not wait around by this stage for Trump to show up, let's just leave." Sure!

Also, there were cameras and reporters everywhere, yet there's not one picture or video of these thousands of people and not one of them made a single comment to any reporter, this would have been a huge story if true. Did they just magically disappear? Oh wait, I bet they were abducted by aliens! That's it, oh no! They're probably on a spaceship being anally probed RIGHT NOW! This is awful! Do you think the spaceship has a cloaking device to keep it from being detected by NORAD? I bet it's like a Klingon Bird of Prey. Oh wait, I bet it's like Boba Fett's ship Slave I. No that can't be right, that's too many people, he needs room for his carbonite block containing Han Solo.

It's just completely implausible that they all just disappeared and that not any of them waited at the stage for Trump or Pence to speak nor did any of them make a comment. Your story is not true, and the really hilarious part is that not even the White House is making this claim, it's just you! Amazing.

Here's a hint......

https://medium.com/s/story/why-does-reality-have-a-well-known-liberal-bias-9625b0dd28c6

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They would wait around because there was an outdoor stage SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED for the people that couldn't get in the arena. In fact, Trump AND Pence were scheduled to speak at this stage. You're telling me that thousands of people, many of which presumably would have traveled from long distances, had a ticket, waited in line for hours, were denied entrance, then said, "Oh well, let's not wait around by this stage for Trump to show up, let's just leave." Sure!

Also, there were cameras and reporters everywhere, yet there's not one picture or video of these thousands of people and not one of them made a single comment to any reporter, this would have been a huge story if true. Did they just magically disappear? Oh wait, I bet they were abducted by aliens! That's it, oh no! They're probably on a spaceship being anally probed RIGHT NOW! This is awful! Do you think the spaceship has a cloaking device to keep it from being detected by NORAD? I bet it's like a Klingon Bird of Prey. Oh wait, I bet it's like Boba Fett's ship Slave I. No that can't be right, that's too many people, he needs room for his carbonite block containing Han Solo.

It's just completely implausible that they all just disappeared and that not any of them waited at the stage for Trump or Pence to speak nor did any of them make a comment. Your story is not true, and the really hilarious part is that not even the White House is making this claim, it's just you! Amazing.

Trump and Pence cancelled any outside speaking the day before. That wasn't going to happen the day of. Just like they weren't going to tour the Greenwood District. That was all known well in advance of the day of the event.

Sorry, but I'm going to trust family and friends that were actually AT the event, over a Trump-hating scientist hack that has an agenda. Go to Twitter and search "Tulsa gates". A lot of folks telling the same story, and there are some pictures that might help your brain understand.
 
Trump and Pence cancelled any outside speaking the day before. That wasn't going to happen the day of. Just like they weren't going to tour the Greenwood District. That was all known well in advance of the day of the event.

Sorry, but I'm going to trust family and friends that were actually AT the event, over a Trump-hating scientist hack that has an agenda. Go to Twitter and search "Tulsa gates". A lot of folks telling the same story, and there are some pictures that might help your brain understand.

Lol, not true. They only canceled the outside speeches when it was obvious nobody was there. They started tearing down the stage about 30 minutes before the event started.

Were your family and friends inside the arena or were they outside monitoring all the entrances and noting the size of the crowd that didn't get in? I'm assuming they weren't outside monitoring the entrances lol.

Sorry, but I'm going to trust reality and common sense lol.
 
By the way, still no photos or videos of thousands of people turned away at the gates. They're on the space ship!!!!
 
By the way, still no photos or videos of thousands of people turned away at the gates. They're on the space ship!!!!

I’m trying to figure out you cause of joy. Shouldn’t you be happy that most people stayed home? Shouldn’t the people you despise be given credit for being responsible?

I’m sure you are very conflicted right now.

Do you think that having 6200 people instead of 100k means that the support for trump has died down in Oklahoma?
 
Correction: 6.5 million live streamed the rally last night. Meanwhile, someone needs to change joe Biden’s diaper.

Just because someone streamed the rally doesn't mean the support Trump. I live streamed the rally, and I despise him. I was in a chat with many of my very liberal buddies, who were all live streaming it as well. That's the thing with Trump, he is such a train wreck that people watch him, love him or hate him.

If you really believe Biden has a 12 point lead, I can sell you some ocean front property in Arizona.

Most polls show Biden with some kind of a lead.... 4 points, 9 points, 12 points, 100 points... who cares. We just have to turn out, vote, and get this psycho out of the White House. All these polls are like pre-season football and basketball rankings... Fun to read, but don't matter. I don't want the polls to lull Democrats into a false sense of confidence. They still need to turn out in big numbers to win, and that's the bottom line.

Joe could be "Washoe the chimp" and nothing would change for democrats. They would gladly have a puppet on a string instead of.... I do not think Joseph could get thru the full term and that is how we end up with the first female president, by default. It works for them.

The very fact that Donald Trump is President shows that door swings both ways... Put an (R) next to any psychopaths name, and people will vote for that person. Just as Trump has a cult following, if the Republicans ran Jerry Springer he would have the same base and cult following.

This shows extreme bias to the party itself, on both sides. The base rarely moves, but luckily a good portion of people are independents and can be swung. Plus, you have lots of new voters coming into the fold every election cycle that can be swayed.

Think about Donald Trump for a second as it relates to the base.. Seriously, I'd like you to consider this... I am dead serious about this, not trying to make fun or anything... he's basically a giant trust fund baby. He's a socialite celebrity. He's a male version of Paris Hilton... Hey, even Paris Hilton has made a lot of money on television, in music, in media, in retail and fashion, etc. Any moron can make a lot of money when you basically can't fail because of the amount of capital you start with. Trump has sank a lot of businesses because he's an idiot, but when a normal person fails you end up under a bridge... you don't turn around and try to sell steaks at Sharper Image, then when you fail at that try to start your own airline, etc.

I bring this up because you look at the Trump base, and he has absolutely no connection to his base whatsoever. A lot of these people are dirt poor, never had anything, and have had to work their ass off their whole life. Like most American's, they are living month to month, trying to make ends meet, etc. And they worship a guy who literally lives in a golden palace. Trump has never had to worry about a mortgage payment, he's probably never even had a mortgage on a personal property he lives in... He's probably never flown coach in his life... He's never had to borrow money to buy a Kia... He's never been to a Walmart.... It's rumored he's never even been to a grocery store to get his own food. He didn't have to think for one second of his life about how to go to college. He didn't have to think for one second about if his children were going to have a good life... He's never once had to check a price tag on a shirt, some meat at the butcher, a pair of shoes, or school supplies for his kids to see if they can afford it, etc.

95% of the country doesn't live this way, and never will... how could someone like Donald Trump, or Paris Hilton, possibly represent us and become the voice and idol of the American working man?

I mean... people living in poor housing with essentially no net worth worship this guy... and Trump wouldn't even give these people the time of day in his normal life.

We need to reconsider our leadership, and have a system in place where people in our image can be elected to represent us. People who actually know what it's like out there.

I will conclude on that thought by saying a trust fund baby certainly can be a great leader, a good, moral, person... That person could work in the community, understand the country, be of moral character, and properly unite and lead a country... I just don't think Donald Trump is that guy.

Sorry for the rant.
 
I’m trying to figure out you cause of joy. Shouldn’t you be happy that most people stayed home? Shouldn’t the people you despise be given credit for being responsible?

I’m sure you are very conflicted right now.

Do you think that having 6200 people instead of 100k means that the support for trump has died down in Oklahoma?

Some people have a soul. Those with one would not behave the way he does. He'll attempt to convince you he is everything a man could desire, want and ask for yet he is the epitome of shallowness. He is full of himself. He is arrogant and pompous, things which he will decry when others act in such a manner, but it finds a home within himself. If he competed in a contest of "self absorbedness" he would come away with a ribbon. Now who here wants to put it in his hair.
 
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Just because someone streamed the rally doesn't mean the support Trump. I live streamed the rally, and I despise him. I was in a chat with many of my very liberal buddies, who were all live streaming it as well. That's the thing with Trump, he is such a train wreck that people watch him, love him or hate him.



Most polls show Biden with some kind of a lead.... 4 points, 9 points, 12 points, 100 points... who cares. We just have to turn out, vote, and get this psycho out of the White House. All these polls are like pre-season football and basketball rankings... Fun to read, but don't matter. I don't want the polls to lull Democrats into a false sense of confidence. They still need to turn out in big numbers to win, and that's the bottom line.



The very fact that Donald Trump is President shows that door swings both ways... Put an (R) next to any psychopaths name, and people will vote for that person. Just as Trump has a cult following, if the Republicans ran Jerry Springer he would have the same base and cult following.

This shows extreme bias to the party itself, on both sides. The base rarely moves, but luckily a good portion of people are independents and can be swung. Plus, you have lots of new voters coming into the fold every election cycle that can be swayed.

Think about Donald Trump for a second as it relates to the base.. Seriously, I'd like you to consider this... I am dead serious about this, not trying to make fun or anything... he's basically a giant trust fund baby. He's a socialite celebrity. He's a male version of Paris Hilton... Hey, even Paris Hilton has made a lot of money on television, in music, in media, in retail and fashion, etc. Any moron can make a lot of money when you basically can't fail because of the amount of capital you start with. Trump has sank a lot of businesses because he's an idiot, but when a normal person fails you end up under a bridge... you don't turn around and try to sell steaks at Sharper Image, then when you fail at that try to start your own airline, etc.

I bring this up because you look at the Trump base, and he has absolutely no connection to his base whatsoever. A lot of these people are dirt poor, never had anything, and have had to work their ass off their whole life. Like most American's, they are living month to month, trying to make ends meet, etc. And they worship a guy who literally lives in a golden palace. Trump has never had to worry about a mortgage payment, he's probably never even had a mortgage on a personal property he lives in... He's probably never flown coach in his life... He's never had to borrow money to buy a Kia... He's never been to a Walmart.... It's rumored he's never even been to a grocery store to get his own food. He didn't have to think for one second of his life about how to go to college. He didn't have to think for one second about if his children were going to have a good life... He's never once had to check a price tag on a shirt, some meat at the butcher, a pair of shoes, or school supplies for his kids to see if they can afford it, etc.

95% of the country doesn't live this way, and never will... how could someone like Donald Trump, or Paris Hilton, possibly represent us and become the voice and idol of the American working man?

I mean... people living in poor housing with essentially no net worth worship this guy... and Trump wouldn't even give these people the time of day in his normal life.

We need to reconsider our leadership, and have a system in place where people in our image can be elected to represent us. People who actually know what it's like out there.

I will conclude on that thought by saying a trust fund baby certainly can be a great leader, a good, moral, person... That person could work in the community, understand the country, be of moral character, and properly unite and lead a country... I just don't think Donald Trump is that guy.

Sorry for the rant.

all of these things can be attributed to most democrats as well.
I remember Hillary and Pelosi and Biden talking about how bad the "1%" are all while they have 4 houses and millions of dollars to their name.
 
all of these things can be attributed to most democrats as well.
I remember Hillary and Pelosi and Biden talking about how bad the "1%" are all while they have 4 houses and millions of dollars to their name.

It's a little different for the vast majority of career politicians. Now, you shouldn't be gaining that much wealth in public service, but very few on the GOP and Democratic side are true socialites in the mold of Trump and Paris Hilton.
 
Some people have a soul. Those with one would not behave the way he does. He'll attempt to convince you he is everything a man could desire, want and ask for yet he is the epitome of shallowness. He is full of himself. He is arrogant and pompous, things which he will decry when others act in such a manner, but it finds a home within himself. If he competed in a contest of "self absorbedness" he would come away with a ribbon. Now who here wants to put it in his hair.

Let's see, I'm:

1. Soulless
2. Arrogant and pompous.
3. The epitome of shallowness.
4. Full of myself.

This makes me laugh because you didn't tell me that, you snipe from the sidelines and give your commentary to posters you agree with about posters you disagree with. If you disagree with what I said, why don't you explain why? Do you have anything of substance to add to the conversation or are you just here to give personal critiques of others' "souls?"

You constantly do this and it's really weird.
 
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I’m trying to figure out you cause of joy. Shouldn’t you be happy that most people stayed home? Shouldn’t the people you despise be given credit for being responsible?

I’m sure you are very conflicted right now.

Do you think that having 6200 people instead of 100k means that the support for trump has died down in Oklahoma?

I am happy that most people stayed home, I never said I wasn't. But that doesn't mean I can't debunk hilarious spin that isn't in touch with reality.
 
all of these things can be attributed to most democrats as well.
I remember Hillary and Pelosi and Biden talking about how bad the "1%" are all while they have 4 houses and millions of dollars to their name.

For example.... Joe Biden literally took public transportation to work. 8,200 round trip train rides on an Amtrak train from Delaware to DC. 259 miles a day, 217 days per year. He literally got sworn into the senate from his kids hospital room. He did this so he could be home with his kids every day. He rode a damn train to work every day for 36 years. Is he rich now? Yep, but the problem (as I stated previously) isn't being rich... Joe Bidens dad sold cars, and had to live with their grandparents for a time because of financial problems.

Don't take my word for it that Joe Biden is a genuine guy.... Let's see what members of the opposing party have to say.

"If you can't admire Joe Biden as a person, then you got a problem. You need to do some self evaluation. He is as good a man as God ever created. He's said some of the most incredibly heartfelt things that anyone could ever say to me. He's the nicest person I think i've probably ever met in politics."
-Republican Senator Lindsey Graham

"Joe and I have argued a lot over the years, but he is a first-class human being, and it's a lucky thing to be his friend."
-Republican Senator John McCain

"I know who Joe is when the cameras aren't rolling. He didn't need to help me but did. His counsel didn't end when my father left me. He has been a beacon of light and hope for me and so many dealing with the grotesque primal pain of losing the person you love most in the world. That is what real character in this seemingly totally bankrupt and broken world. I am a better person for knowing Joe”
-Meghan McCain on Joe Biden

“You’ve been a real friend, you’ve been a trusted partner, and it’s been an honor to serve with you"
-Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell on Joe Biden

"Joe, I don’t have the words to adequately tell you how much I appreciate you as a person and as a leader.... you have lived the life of a patriot and you act like a gentleman. You are my friend, and may God bless you and your family and thank you for your service to the country and your friendship to me."
-Republican Senator John Isakson on Joe Biden

"To know Joe Biden is to admire him, his warmth, his devotion to friends and family, his commitment to all things Delaware, and his fierce loyalty to his party that somehow never alienated those of us on the other side of the aisle. Perhaps that is due to the many thoughtful gestures the Vice
President demonstrates every day. I thank him for his extraordinary friendship to me."
-Republican Senator Susan Collins of Maine

"[Biden] is an example of a man who understands the issues, who knows how to get things done, and who has the respect of everyone in this body. You are a friend of every single one of us. We honor you today. We are delighted you came down to let us tell a few stories about your effectiveness as Vice President of the United States."
-Republican Senator Lamar Alexander of Tennessee

"You see, Joe Biden was beloved by everyone in this Chamber, even those he drove crazy from time to time, and I count myself among that group. Through his ability to forge friendship even amid conflict, he embodies the ethos of a noble generation of legislators—a generation that embraced the
virtues of comity and compromise above all else. I believe this body—indeed, this Nation—could learn from Joe’s example of kindness, courtesy, and compassion. I am deeply grateful for my friend Joe Biden. I have long
admired his devotion to his family, as well as his grace amid suffering, and he did suffer, and I know it. I was here. Having experienced tremendous loss in his family life, he draws from a rich reservoir of empathy to connect with everyday Americans. Ask anyone Vice President Biden has served: When you speak, JOE listens. He loves, and he cares. He is perhaps the most personable public figure in American politics today."
-Republican Senator Orrin Hatch of Utah

"he was fair and courteous to everyone, even people who did not always deserve it. He is always an example of how a powerful person with character and class treats anyone in a subordinate position. He treats them with humility, as God’s children, with dignity equal to his own. He is a good and decent man, God-fearing and kind, a devoted father and husband, a genuine patriot who puts our country before himself. I know, too, that it has been a
great privilege to call him my friend."
-Republican Senator John McCain

"We have also negotiated in good faith when the country needed bipartisan leadership. We got results that would not have been possible without a negotiating partner like Joe Biden. Obviously, I don’t always agree with him, but I do trust him implicitly. He doesn’t break his word. He doesn’t waste time telling me why I am wrong. He gets down to brass tacks, and he keeps in sight the stakes. There is a reason ‘‘Get Joe on the phone’’ is shorthand for ‘‘time to get serious’’ in my office."
-Republican Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky

Good Lord can we please win this election on November 3rd and restore the dignity and spirit of our country.
 
For example.... Joe Biden literally took public transportation to work. 8,200 round trip train rides on an Amtrak train from Delaware to DC. 259 miles a day, 217 days per year. He literally got sworn into the senate from his kids hospital room. He did this so he could be home with his kids every day. He rode a damn train to work every day for 36 years. Is he rich now? Yep, but the problem (as I stated previously) isn't being rich... Joe Bidens dad sold cars, and had to live with their grandparents for a time because of financial problems.

Don't take my word for it that Joe Biden is a genuine guy.... Let's see what members of the opposing party have to say.

"If you can't admire Joe Biden as a person, then you got a problem. You need to do some self evaluation. He is as good a man as God ever created. He's said some of the most incredibly heartfelt things that anyone could ever say to me. He's the nicest person I think i've probably ever met in politics."
-Republican Senator Lindsey Graham

"Joe and I have argued a lot over the years, but he is a first-class human being, and it's a lucky thing to be his friend."
-Republican Senator John McCain

"I know who Joe is when the cameras aren't rolling. He didn't need to help me but did. His counsel didn't end when my father left me. He has been a beacon of light and hope for me and so many dealing with the grotesque primal pain of losing the person you love most in the world. That is what real character in this seemingly totally bankrupt and broken world. I am a better person for knowing Joe”
-Meghan McCain on Joe Biden

“You’ve been a real friend, you’ve been a trusted partner, and it’s been an honor to serve with you"
-Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell on Joe Biden

"Joe, I don’t have the words to adequately tell you how much I appreciate you as a person and as a leader.... you have lived the life of a patriot and you act like a gentleman. You are my friend, and may God bless you and your family and thank you for your service to the country and your friendship to me."
-Republican Senator John Isakson on Joe Biden

"To know Joe Biden is to admire him, his warmth, his devotion to friends and family, his commitment to all things Delaware, and his fierce loyalty to his party that somehow never alienated those of us on the other side of the aisle. Perhaps that is due to the many thoughtful gestures the Vice
President demonstrates every day. I thank him for his extraordinary friendship to me."
-Republican Senator Susan Collins of Maine

"[Biden] is an example of a man who understands the issues, who knows how to get things done, and who has the respect of everyone in this body. You are a friend of every single one of us. We honor you today. We are delighted you came down to let us tell a few stories about your effectiveness as Vice President of the United States."
-Republican Senator Lamar Alexander of Tennessee

"You see, Joe Biden was beloved by everyone in this Chamber, even those he drove crazy from time to time, and I count myself among that group. Through his ability to forge friendship even amid conflict, he embodies the ethos of a noble generation of legislators—a generation that embraced the
virtues of comity and compromise above all else. I believe this body—indeed, this Nation—could learn from Joe’s example of kindness, courtesy, and compassion. I am deeply grateful for my friend Joe Biden. I have long
admired his devotion to his family, as well as his grace amid suffering, and he did suffer, and I know it. I was here. Having experienced tremendous loss in his family life, he draws from a rich reservoir of empathy to connect with everyday Americans. Ask anyone Vice President Biden has served: When you speak, JOE listens. He loves, and he cares. He is perhaps the most personable public figure in American politics today."
-Republican Senator Orrin Hatch of Utah

"he was fair and courteous to everyone, even people who did not always deserve it. He is always an example of how a powerful person with character and class treats anyone in a subordinate position. He treats them with humility, as God’s children, with dignity equal to his own. He is a good and decent man, God-fearing and kind, a devoted father and husband, a genuine patriot who puts our country before himself. I know, too, that it has been a
great privilege to call him my friend."
-Republican Senator John McCain

"We have also negotiated in good faith when the country needed bipartisan leadership. We got results that would not have been possible without a negotiating partner like Joe Biden. Obviously, I don’t always agree with him, but I do trust him implicitly. He doesn’t break his word. He doesn’t waste time telling me why I am wrong. He gets down to brass tacks, and he keeps in sight the stakes. There is a reason ‘‘Get Joe on the phone’’ is shorthand for ‘‘time to get serious’’ in my office."
-Republican Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky

Good Lord can we please win this election on November 3rd and restore the dignity and spirit of our country.
so in other words, Joe Biden is a product of the evil capitalistic society?
My point was that many of the high ranking democrats try to appeal to their voters by spouting rhetoric that they have never lived through. Denouncing capitalism and greed, yet they reap the benefits of capitalism
 
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