Devion Harmon to the Portal

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hoopsaustin said:
Teams are going to have to rerecruit every year any player that has a good year..
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Many will have demands and some other team will likely give them what they want. Payment program, guaranteed playing time, etc. Lon was smart to hang em up. Guys like him would not be as competitive in this type of environment IMO.
 
My interest in college sports have dwindled the last several years. College hoops getting ruined might be the nail in the coffin

One thing covid has taught me is I can live without sports.
 
What's the lesson we should be taking here? That players like Hollis Price, Longar Longar, Tony Crocker, Cade Davis, Buddy Hield, etc only stayed at OU 4 years because they didn't want to sit out a year or weren't able to get permission to leave, or otherwise were being kept here against their will?

Or....

Is what happening to OU right now only happening because the coaches who recruited these guys are gone?

It's hard to say... TU had a bunch of dudes enter the portal this year. Mike Andersons entire damn team at St. Johns either declared for the draft or entered the portal... So that is just two examples where the coach didn't retire or leave, and they are still flooding into the portal.
 
SoonerBounce13 said:
My interest in college sports have dwindled the last several years. College hoops getting ruined might be the nail in the coffin

One thing covid has taught me is I can live without sports.
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Sadly, I kind of agree. :(
 
thebigabd said:
What's the lesson we should be taking here? That players like Hollis Price, Longar Longar, Tony Crocker, Cade Davis, Buddy Hield, etc only stayed at OU 4 years because they didn't want to sit out a year or weren't able to get permission to leave, or otherwise were being kept here against their will?

Or....

Is what happening to OU right now only happening because the coaches who recruited these guys are gone?

It's hard to say... TU had a bunch of dudes enter the portal this year. Mike Andersons entire damn team at St. Johns either declared for the draft or entered the portal... So that is just two examples where the coach didn't retire or leave, and they are still flooding into the portal.
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I tend to think this season is an outlier for several reasons and future years will regress to the mean.
 
hoopsaustin said:
Portal is destroying college sports
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It will if they don't make some modifications to it soon. Here are some I would like to see:

1. Deadline to enter the portal. You see new names pouring in each day, have there be a deadline. It will help teams plan out what their areas of need are and who to target.

2. This one is tough, but I think it's needed. If a player chooses to enter the portal, he can't return to his original team. Once again, helps the team plan out who to go after.

3. This one will need to be more thoroughly thought out, but there should be a limit to how many players you can take in via the portal. I think 1 for 1 is fair. If you have 2 players enter the portal, you can take in 2 players via the portal. The rest of your roster should be built through normal recruiting.

Overall, I think a one time transfer without having to sit out a year is fine for all players. Even within conference, if coaches can do it, the player should be able to as well. Coaches are going to have to adapt, and be ready to recruit year round. I think having some limitations might help level out the playing field. Otherwise this could turn into the blue bloods just getting already developed players from other schools every year.
 
SoonerBounce13 said:
My interest in college sports have dwindled the last several years. College hoops getting ruined might be the nail in the coffin

One thing covid has taught me is I can live without sports.
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My kids are now playing high school sports. I've learned that I enjoy my kids' sports much more than watching other people play sports.
 
allday92 said:
It will if they don't make some modifications to it soon. Here are some I would like to see:

1. Deadline to enter the portal. You see new names pouring in each day, have there be a deadline. It will help teams plan out what their areas of need are and who to target.

2. This one is tough, but I think it's needed. If a player chooses to enter the portal, he can't return to his original team. Once again, helps the team plan out who to go after.

3. This one will need to be more thoroughly thought out, but there should be a limit to how many players you can take in via the portal. I think 1 for 1 is fair. If you have 2 players enter the portal, you can take in 2 players via the portal. The rest of your roster should be built through normal recruiting.

Overall, I think a one time transfer without having to sit out a year is fine for all players. Even within conference, if coaches can do it, the player should be able to as well. Coaches are going to have to adapt, and be ready to recruit year round. I think having some limitations might help level out the playing field. Otherwise this could turn into the blue bloods just getting already developed players from other schools every year.
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Some good ideas.

Somethings got to change. Always unintended consequences.
 
allday92 said:
It will if they don't make some modifications to it soon. Here are some I would like to see:

1. Deadline to enter the portal. You see new names pouring in each day, have there be a deadline. It will help teams plan out what their areas of need are and who to target.

2. This one is tough, but I think it's needed. If a player chooses to enter the portal, he can't return to his original team. Once again, helps the team plan out who to go after.

3. This one will need to be more thoroughly thought out, but there should be a limit to how many players you can take in via the portal. I think 1 for 1 is fair. If you have 2 players enter the portal, you can take in 2 players via the portal. The rest of your roster should be built through normal recruiting.

Overall, I think a one time transfer without having to sit out a year is fine for all players. Even within conference, if coaches can do it, the player should be able to as well. Coaches are going to have to adapt, and be ready to recruit year round. I think having some limitations might help level out the playing field. Otherwise this could turn into the blue bloods just getting already developed players from other schools every year.
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Deadline to enter portal would be a big one.... Good idea.

I am pondering your #2 suggestion... this is basically the same as "once you sign with an agent you lose your eligibility"... Makes it a very serious decision to enter the portal. This would prevent guys like Harmon from throwing his name in there and just seeing who else wants him.
 
The immediate eligibility coming out of the portal is just for this year, right? It's just a covid thing? Or is this permanent.
 
thebigabd said:
Deadline to enter portal would be a big one.... Good idea.

I am pondering your #2 suggestion... this is basically the same as "once you sign with an agent you lose your eligibility"... Makes it a very serious decision to enter the portal. This would prevent guys like Harmon from throwing his name in there and just seeing who else wants him.
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This year is July 1.

Future years is May 1.
 
mort6481 said:
The immediate eligibility coming out of the portal is just for this year, right? It's just a covid thing? Or is this permanent.
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Permanent. Every player can transfer once without having to sit out, whether now or in the future.
 
Im completely fine with the portal, I just wish that you still had to sit out if you transferred in conference. I dont care if Harmon transferred to Arkansas or USC. Going to Texas or Kansas would hurt.
 
WichitaSooner said:
Permanent. Every player can transfer once without having to sit out, whether now or in the future.
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Key here is once. Players will likely forget that, because NCAA gave a blanket waiver last year to leave due to Covid.

Someone like McClung who has left for the 3rd time is going to have to get a waiver to be eligible next year. He’ll likely win since his coach left, but he’ll have to go through that process.
 
OULad said:
Im completely fine with the portal, I just wish that you still had to sit out if you transferred in conference. I dont care if Harmon transferred to Arkansas or USC. Going to Texas or Kansas would hurt.
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It wouldn’t hurt nearly as much as it will make some of us angry!

I have been one of De’Vion’s biggest fans since he committed to OU going on four years ago. I understood him testing the water in the NBA draft. While I don’t believe he’s ready, nothing would have pleased me more than to see him get a shot at the next level.

But, his decision to enter the transfer portal is more than I can take. It’s like he is giving OU and Sooner fans the middle finger as he puts a loving arm around the shoulder of any school willing to make him an offer. That tells me he lied to Porter Moser and that he has no intentions of coming back.

Best of luck, young man! Time for me to move on.
 
Not gonna post the whole article, but it explains the portal decision and what the Harmon's are looking for.



Zack Geoghegan: What went into the decision to transfer from Oklahoma?

Deon Harmon: It’s pretty simple, and it was really something that me and his mom pushed him into doing. He’s right on the precipice of putting himself on the draft board potentially next year and that’s his dream. Sometimes kids get focused on that but they don’t understand the business side of it. They don’t understand the things that have to be done in order to give them the best option to make it and at the end of the day, his mom and I told him that ‘if you’re not in the portal, we can’t have discussions and explore the best situation for you.’ The idea of going into the portal had nothing to do with a lack of communication or any negative aspects of his relationship with the new [Oklahoma] coach, Coach Porter Moser. Actually, things with them are going very well. It was literally just to get him in the portal because the rules dictate that we can’t talk to any other schools unless he goes into the portal. OU is new again, we gotta make sure we get a system that fits him, where the coach believes he has the ability to help the team and also the team helps with getting him to the next level. We just needed to talk to schools and open up so we could have those conversations.


ZG: Considering the timing with the new one-time transfer rule, this seems like the smart move to make then.

DH: The one thing that we always talk about is not making the same mistake twice. He committed very early in his high school career. He was a junior in November when he committed. He kinda cut his recruiting short, so we needed a little more time and information to really vet the programs the way we needed to. And not that we didn’t vet OU well, but some of the style changed as we got there and he had to figure out how to fit in because it wasn’t necessarily the style of ball we thought he was going to be playing. The good thing is it shows he’s resilient, mentally tough, he adjusted, and had a really good year this year. But it wasn’t good enough to play him onto the draft boards. So now he’s sitting right there and needs to have another great year. But unfortunately, our coach retires and everything becomes anew. We just had to do this so he could make the right decision, and that decision could very well be going back to OU.


ZG: Would that mean playing more of a point guard role as opposed to a combo guard?

DH: He’s a point guard, that’s the other thing. We need him to be seen as a point guard. He was playing the two-guard, combo guard style and it was hard to get assists when he’s not the point guard. We do want him in the point guard role, and that doesn’t have to be 100 percent of the time because we like to run. He’s an open floor player. If the other guard gets the ball off the rebound, he doesn’t need to slow down and give it to [De’Vion]. He needs to push it so [De’Vion] can get out and show that ability that he can finish as well. But when the ball is being taken out of bounds, we’d like for [De’Vion] to be the guy they throw it into and let him initiate the offense and get guys in the right spot and show that he is a lead guard.
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