Fire Porter Moser

[Final fOUr]

No dude. The there’s no chance of the NCAA tournament. If you’re a Moser guy and want him to succeed then maybe they make a run in the NIT and that’s enough to save Moser’s job.

I can't imagine this team voting to play in the NIT

 

[WichitaSooner]

I legitimately can’t believe we have a few people still talking about what it would take to make the tournament. It would be like a baseball team that is 20 games back on Sept. 1 saying, well if we win 22 of our last 25, and all the teams we are chasing suffer Ebola outbreaks, we might be able to do it.

 

[daqman]

I legitimately can’t believe we have a few people still talking about what it would take to make the tournament. It would be like a baseball team that is 20 games back on Sept. 1 saying, well if we win 22 of our last 25, and all the teams we are chasing suffer Ebola outbreaks, we might be able to do it.

i may be wrong...but i don't think the chances are zero. probably close but not zero.
there are no ranked teams left on our schedule so winning out isn't impossible.
question is if that...and a win in the sec tourney would be enough to get us in the tournament.
a 9 game win streak....over other tourney teams...would garner a serious look imo.
start with beating tenn on the road. if that happens....the chances increase ever so slightly.
and for those living/dying on a moser firing.....i guarantee you'll be sweating every win going forward

 

[MJSooner]

I can't imagine this team voting to play in the NIT

Yeah, I agree. The only thing that may work in that direction is that there are so many last year players on the roster. No portal to worry about or agent negotiations.

But again, to get to that point, even to be attractive to the NIT, is still near impossible. Since the NCAA took over and then changed the selection process in 2023, NET rankings in the P4 conferences would eliminate us from an auto bid. Not sure we would be attractive as an at-large unless we do the improbable here on out. Still need 7 wins.

As I said in the last post, hopium isn't getting us into the postseason. Everyone just needs to accept it isn't happening, regardless of how much we love OU basketball.

 

[WichitaSooner]

i may be wrong...but i don't think the chances are zero. probably close but not zero.
there are no ranked teams left on our schedule so winning out isn't impossible.
question is if that...and a win in the sec tourney would be enough to get us in the tournament.
a 9 game win streak....over other tourney teams...would garner a serious look imo.
start with beating tenn on the road. if that happens....the chances increase ever so slightly.
and for those living/dying on a moser firing.....i guarantee you'll be sweating every win going forward

I am not remotely sweating any win we get. I live in reality. And the fact we don’t play many good teams down the stretch doesn’t help our case. It might make winning a couple games more likely, but won’t do crap to increase our tournament chances. We have one good win on the season and lots of bad or embarrassing losses. We are so far removed from the discussion it’s laughable.

 

[MJSooner]

I am not remotely sweating any win we get. I live in reality. And the fact we don’t play many good teams down the stretch doesn’t help our case. It might make winning a couple games more likely, but won’t do crap to increase our tournament chances. We have one good win on the season and lots of bad or embarrassing losses. We are so far removed from the discussion it’s laughable.

Yep, #68 in NET rankings with 2-8 Q1 record, and even worse, a 2-4 Q2 record.

We are so far from a bubble conversation, we aren't even wet. Linardi probably wouldn't even have us on the next (1)4 out at this point.

And I liked how you stated that- winning might be more likely with the teams we have left, but that means nothing to help our tourney chances. I'll sweat out any win but also understand at this point, it's just a win. Winning is always better than losing even if it means no March Madness.

 

[hoopsaustin]

I legitimately can’t believe we have a few people still talking about what it would take to make the tournament. It would be like a baseball team that is 20 games back on Sept. 1 saying, well if we win 22 of our last 25, and all the teams we are chasing suffer Ebola outbreaks, we might be able to do it.

Seems like prototypical and appropriate message board fodder to even talk about the long shots IMO

 

[OULad]

If we win our next 6 games we might make it in. The players are capable of this, but I dont think the coach is.

 

[pncparn]

If we win our next 6 games we might make it in. The players are capable of this, but I dont think the coach is.

 

[pncparn]

That would be 9-9 in conference. That would do it

 

[MJSooner]

If we win our next 6 games we might make it in. The players are capable of this, but I dont think the coach is.

Nope, it probably wouldn't be enough due to our poor NC schedule and poor current NET ranking of #68. But let's play assume we win the six games left...

Six games but only 3 Q1 chances- all road games- Tennessee, LSU, Texass. The three home games will all be Q2 games- A&M, Auburn, Missouri- unless Auburn moves up 5 spots to above 30. First game in the SEC would be Q2 and then probably a Q1.

That means, winning out and making the second round of the SEC tournament would be an overall record 20-13. No top 20 wins. And we would still be .500 in a weaker SEC, which will probably only get 9-10 teams tops. Our Q1 record at that point, if we win out, would be 5-9 and a 6-4 Q2 record. Nine of the 20 wins would be Q3 & Q4.

Regardless of where that places the individual NET ranking, that is not really attractive. And that assumes a BIG stretch of winning 7 in a row for a team that hasn't won more than 3 in a row ever in the SEC, and the 3 in a row happened only once last year. Winning 4 in Nashville is really the only chance, and that isn’t reality thinking.

Great to have hopes and dreams, but this happening- getting into the NCAAs- is closer to a fantasy.

 

[allday92]

Nope, it probably wouldn't be enough due to our poor NC schedule and poor current NET ranking of #68. But let's play assume we win the six games left...

Six games but only 3 Q1 chances- all road games- Tennessee, LSU, Texass. The three home games will all be Q2 games- A&M, Auburn, Missouri- unless Auburn moves up 5 spots to above 30. First game in the SEC would be Q2 and then probably a Q1.

That means, winning out and making the second round of the SEC tournament would be an overall record 20-13. No top 20 wins. And we would still be .500 in a weaker SEC, which will probably only get 9-10 teams tops. Our Q1 record at that point, if we win out, would be 5-9 and a 6-4 Q2 record. Nine of the 20 wins would be Q3 & Q4.

Regardless of where that places the individual NET ranking, that is not really attractive. And that assumes a BIG stretch of winning 7 in a row for a team that hasn't won more than 3 in a row ever in the SEC, and the 3 in a row happened only once last year. Winning 4 in Nashville is really the only chance, and that isn’t reality thinking.

Great to have hopes and dreams, but this happening- getting into the NCAAs- is closer to a fantasy.

Right now, Lunardi has 11 SEC teams in, and if OU goes 9-9, that would likely put them finishing at 8th in the conference (https://bball.notnothing.net/bracket_cloud.php?conf=secm).

 

[MJSooner]

Right now, Lunardi has 11 SEC teams in, and if OU goes 9-9, that would likely put them finishing at 8th in the conference (https://bball.notnothing.net/bracket_cloud.php?conf=secm).

Not to turn this into a bracketology thread, and I'll pivot back to "fire Porter Moser", but Lunardi is living in dreamland, too. Who is the 11th?? Missouri??

Right now, Mizzou is #66 at 17-8 and yeah, has some Q1 opportunities left. LSU is #67 but 2-10 in conference. OU is #68, Ole Miss is #92, MSU #94, and South Carolina rounds it out at #112. IMO, it is more likely Georgia and/or Texas A&M drop OFF the line with the way both are playing and their current trajectory. It could be as likely only 8 get in as opposed to getting 11 teams. The league is not as strong, and there are no big-time NC wins by Mizzou, A&M, or Georgia. None has more than 3 Q1 wins.

But back to OU and Porter Moser, thinking PM could win 8 games in a row, with three more Q1 road wins, and then win a game in Nashville to get to 20 wins is just nonsensical. Especially when we are talking about a coach who hasn't won 9 games in a row against teams from a D1 P4 conference any time in his career. And even if he won 5 more games, it probably won't be enough for either the NCAA or NIT.

I hope I'm wrong, and would be glad if I am, but postseason tournament talk after winning 2 games is still a pipe dream.

The real question isn't if he can win enough to make the tournament, but can he win enough with what's left to save his job if he does miss out? 20-14 enough?

My guess is no, as I think $$$ will talk in the form of no/reduced NIL support, reduced donations, reduced advertising dollars, and reduced season ticket sales.

 

[daqman]

at this point we don't know what the hmfic are going to do with moser.
if they're going to keep him another year regardless...i'd prefer we win out and make the tourney.
if they've decided he's gone after the season...then it's probly best to not make the tourney and just get the process started.
i have my preference.
but again..the chances of making the tourney ..imo...is not zero.

 

[MJSooner]

at this point we don't know what the hmfic are going to do with moser.
if they're going to keep him another year regardless...i'd prefer we win out and make the tourney.
if they've decided he's gone after the season...then it's probly best to not to make the tourney and just get the process started.
i have my preference.
but again..the chances of making the tourney ..imo...is not zero.

Of course it's not zero. We could lose all of our remaining games on the schedule, and win 4 in Nashville and get the guaranteed bid.

But it is highly improbable, bordering on impossible, with the history of this team, and more importantly this coach, in winning must-win or close games.

I will also root for him to win every game, and hope a tourney bid is out there. But I'm also not moving to fantasy land as I'm planted in reality.

 

[hoopsaustin]

Not to turn this into a bracketology thread, and I'll pivot back to "fire Porter Moser", but Lunardi is living in dreamland, too. Who is the 11th?? Missouri??

Right now, Mizzou is #66 at 17-8 and yeah, has some Q1 opportunities left. LSU is #67 but 2-10 in conference. OU is #68, Ole Miss is #92, MSU #94, and South Carolina rounds it out at #112. IMO, it is more likely Georgia and/or Texas A&M drop OFF the line with the way both are playing and their current trajectory. It could be as likely only 8 get in as opposed to getting 11 teams. The league is not as strong, and there are no big-time NC wins by Mizzou, A&M, or Georgia. None has more than 3 Q1 wins.

But back to OU and Porter Moser, thinking PM could win 8 games in a row, with three more Q1 road wins, and then win a game in Nashville to get to 20 wins is just nonsensical. Especially when we are talking about a coach who hasn't won 9 games in a row against teams from a D1 P4 conference any time in his career. And even if he won 5 more games, it probably won't be enough for either the NCAA or NIT.

I hope I'm wrong, and would be glad if I am, but postseason tournament talk after winning 2 games is still a pipe dream.

The real question isn't if he can win enough to make the tournament, but can he win enough with what's left to save his job if he does miss out? 20-14 enough?

My guess is no, as I think $$$ will talk in the form of no/reduced NIL support, reduced donations, reduced advertising dollars, and reduced season ticket sales.

Loser's biggest conference winning streak at OU is 4 (which included 1 tourney win) in 2021-22 in the big 12

 

[MJSooner]

Loser's biggest conference winning streak at OU is 4 (which included 1 tourney win) in 2021-22 in the big 12

And three in the SEC is the longest- last year- two in the regular season, one in the tourney. Obviously started 13-0 last year but that included teams like Stetson and Alcorn St.

Like I said, thinking he can turn 8 or 9 in a row and talking about the possibilities after just two of those wins is just absurd. And yeah, I get it, it's a discussion board.

But still....

 

[WTSooner]

It's crazy how a good game or two, or a win or two, convince some of you that we've turned some mythical corner.

No way this team wins out or even loses just one. I'm not saying they can't/won't win a couple of games, but they aren't doing anything close to enough to sniff the Dance unless they are the only team that survives an epic food poisoning event at the SEC Conference Tournament.