Grooms

[bgrch1350]

Is he for sure a starter? I was looking at OU basketball team's Mile Run times and out of everyone on the team, the only guy he could beat was Casey Arent by :04 seconds. I didn't see Clark's and Fitzgerald times on there but it worries me that Grooms is one of the slowest players on our roster when he's suppose to be the starting PG.

 

[garyeb2]

Is he for sure a starter? I was looking at OU basketball team's Mile Run times and out of everyone on the team, the only guy he could beat was Casey Arent by :04 seconds. I didn't see Clark's and Fitzgerald times on there but it worries me that Grooms is one of the slowest players on our roster when he's suppose to be the starting PG.

Why do you tee yourself up like that?

 

[SoonerBounce13]

lol

 

[Mr.B!!!]

How does his time compare to a middle school girls track time?

In all seriousness, Grooms should be fine, it's not his mile time I'm worried about, it's his shot.

 

[SoonerTraveler]

Why do you tee yourself up like that?

I was getting ready to swing my 3-Wood, but thought better of it.

 

[bgrch1350]

Eaton was one of the slowest players on his OSU's team his first 3 years and you could see the difference when he became one of the fastest ones his senior year.

 

[campbest]

Not a huge Sam Grooms fan (he has his moments), but mile times?

Come on man.

 

[bgrch1350]

Not a huge Sam Grooms fan (he has his moments), but mile times?

Come on man.

Its not about his time..its about the fact that he can only beat Arent

I get the fact that they don't run miles in basketball...that its all sprinting...I guess I was expecting more from a Senior PG. It doesn't matter if their on the court or on a track...You like to see a competitiveness in your PG and only beating a center in a race is showing me a lack of competitiveness.

I'll admit...I wasn't a fan of Grooms last season...and I know we need better from our PG position in order to make it to the ncaa tournament. I am hoping for a more improved Grooms. I have a feeling that by the end of the season though...Cousins or Hornbeak will be taking over the starting PG role.

 

[CoachTalk]

Mile runs are actually bad for basketball players. Slows down fast twitch muscles. But coaches continue to run them! Or should I say running them all the time is bad.

 

[KBaden145]

Is he for sure a starter? I was looking at OU basketball team's Mile Run times and out of everyone on the team, the only guy he could beat was Casey Arent by :04 seconds. I didn't see Clark's and Fitzgerald times on there but it worries me that Grooms is one of the slowest players on our roster when he's suppose to be the starting PG.

Nothing to see here. Move along...

 

[AdaSooner]

Not a huge Sam Grooms fan (he has his moments), but mile times?

Come on man.

Exactly. I'm a lot more interested in his time in the forty than what he can or cannot do in the mile run. Footspeed on the basketball court is not even close to Sam's biggest weakness. He seemed to hang fairly well on defense with most of the point guards OU faced last year.

By the same token, I'll admit that I was surprised to learn that Arent is the only player Grooms could beat in the mile run. Is that a sign of conditioning on the part of his teammates, or does Sam have a ways to go to get in shape? Guess we'll have our answer when the team takes the court in a few weeks.

 

[ksSooner13]

i'm going to ignore speed and focus on the fact that everyone forgets we had statistically the best TRUE point guard in the conference. 2.8 Assist to Turnover ratio, and 5.97 assists per game... those are the only stats that matter to me at this point

 

[DenverSooner]

i'm going to ignore speed and focus on the fact that everyone forgets we had statistically the best TRUE point guard in the conference. 2.8 Assist to Turnover ratio, and 5.97 assists per game... those are the only stats that matter to me at this point

Sam did a good job last year but he needs to improve his shooting percentage this season. If he can shoot the ball a bit better, I think he will be one of the best point guards in the conference.

 

[KBaden145]

If you think about it, there are some very good PG in this conference. Sam could improve by leaps and bounds, have a very good year, and still be in the bottom half of the league for his position. Almost every program is really solid at that spot with exception of K State and Tech.

 

[garyeb2]

If you think about it, there are some very good PG in this conference. Sam could improve by leaps and bounds, have a very good year, and still be in the bottom half of the league for his position. Almost every program is really solid at that spot with exception of K State and Tech.

OK. I thought about it. Sam is probably a cut below the type of point guard a pretty good team would have. A top 25 type team. He would be a quality backup on thoses kind.

But, he is much better than Blair and good enough to start on a team that is much improved in other areas. Now, I certainly hope that Cousins is good enough from the get go to earn the start. If he isn't, Grooms won't be any kind of an anchor for the team to have to drag around.

 

[brettromar]

I am with CoachTalk in that I am surprised people still run the mile for basketball players.

The quicktwitch thing I get, but the mile teaches pacing and you run at a speed that I hope the players never run at.

I used to hear, the mile is so hard, it is the hardest thing we do in preseason. By the end of a proper preseason program (in my opinion) the kids were begging to run the mile again.

 

[brettromar]

How does his time compare to a middle school girls track time?

In all seriousness, Grooms should be fine, it's not his mile time I'm worried about, it's his shot.

What was his time, I can tell you how he ranks with junior high girls. I am going to guess he would win most cross country meets, haha. :clap

 

[WTSooner]

I don't see where the mile is hurting anything. Probably not helping much, especially since they are only doing it for a short time in the preseason, then not doing it anymore, but it isn't hurting. It does help break up the monotony of more traditional basketball conditioning.

 

[TheGimper]

I don't see where the mile is hurting anything. Probably not helping much, especially since they are only doing it for a short time in the preseason, then not doing it anymore, but it isn't hurting. It does help break up the monotony of more traditional basketball conditioning.

And it gives message board commentators something to over analyze during the lull of the off season.

 

[brettromar]

It teaches pacing and doesn't develop quick twitch muscles. Running the mile doesn't do anything for basketball kids in my opinion.

Also if running the mile is breaking up the monotony of a running program I feel for that kids running that program. Some coaches just don't know what to do so they run the mile or longer.