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Yes, typos are understandable, but when you misspell the same word over and over that's different.
 
I don't even check my posts for spelling, and spellcheck doesn't correct the use of the wrong word anyhow. Occasionally, I make a mistake. Sometimes, it is mistyped. Sometimes, the error is so strange that I have no idea what I was thinking. You live with it. I have yet to see a checking system that catches you when you simply use the wrong word.
 
treebranch said:
Gary, you said a majority of people arrested are guilty, not just criminal defendants.

Actual points of relevant law include that everyone has a right to resist arrest by someone they do not know to be a police officer. In most states individuals may resist wrongful arrest by known police officers with reasonable force. I don't know or really care about Texas law.

It is not clear from anything I've read whether the bouncer identified himself to AD as a police officer. I don't know why anyone would assume he did.

On spelling, I'm not sure if you're a lawyer, but my guess is you at least understand a judge would tend to downgrade the criminal law opinions of a lawyer who couldn't spell criminal, defendant, or personal. It's about credibility. Where does your credibility come from?
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Why anyone wants to keep this up is a mystery to me. But, I 'll try to clarify. What I am saying is that the majority of people arrested are guilty of the crime they were arrested for. Big crime or little crime, it doesn't matter. Alot will plead out to a lessor offense if you want to make that point. But, they were guilty.

My credibility comes from the fact that I am right on the points that I was argueing. I don't care what the relevant law might be.
Everywhere other than Mayberry, if you bow up at cop, you are going to jail. Whether it was a good arrest or bad arrest is sorted out later. That is likely what happened to AD.

Since you have decided to inject yourself into this, why wouldn't you be interested in what Texas Law has to say. After all they were in Houston.
 
he's still an idiot. arguing is pointless and effort-consuming.
 
coolm said:
he's still an idiot. arguing is pointless and effort-consuming.
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It is confusing about who the idiot really is. You are the one that claims to have a law degree and you have yet to make one factual statement reguarding the law. Not one. You seem to have no understanding of arrest conviction ratios. No wonder the jails are so full. The defense lawyer pool is looking pretty shallow.
 
Gary, you're in over your head in arguing points of law with two of the most respected legal minds on this or any other board. CoolM and Denver are indeed lawyers, and they have the reputation to prove it.

I wasn't there to witness what went down between Adrian Peterson and the key figure in this incident. As I said before, I'm sure there's more to the story than we know. But something tells me the Houston PD will smell even worse when this is over than the story their off-duty officers are telling.

This is a no-win situation for everyone involved. Yet, if AD's account is accurate, I don't blame him for hiring an attorney to clear his name. Pro athletes have rights, too.
 
StatGeek said:
How do those Mac's feel about the word poor?

Just giving you a hard time.
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This is something I find myself doing more often as I get older. Sometimes I will read soemthing and have written are for our, there for their or to for two or too.
 
treebranch said:
On spelling, I'm not sure if you're a lawyer, but my guess is you at least understand a judge would tend to downgrade the criminal law opinions of a lawyer who couldn't spell criminal, defendant, or personal. It's about credibility. Where does your credibility come from?
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I think most judges will overlook an occassional typo or mistake. Personally I try to proof read things before filing them but if a document is large enough it is very difficult to have it perfect at a reasonable price. What bugs me about judges is they do want a high quality of work but then often say your bills are too high when awarding attorney's fees. To me that is a bit unfair but there really isn't anything you can do about it.
 
sorry, but I refuse to devote any time arguing with this Gary person because it's just like the old "playing chess with a pigeon" thing:

No matter how great a move I make he's just going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like he's victorious.

pointless.
 
AdaSooner said:
Gary, you're in over your head in arguing points of law with two of the most respected legal minds on this or any other board. CoolM and Denver are indeed lawyers, and they have the reputation to prove it.

I wasn't there to witness what went down between Adrian Peterson and the key figure in this incident. As I said before, I'm sure there's more to the story than we know. But something tells me the Houston PD will smell even worse when this is over than the story their off-duty officers are telling.

This is a no-win situation for everyone involved. Yet, if AD's account is accurate, I don't blame him for hiring an attorney to clear his name. Pro athletes have rights, too.
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Please. If I'm in over my head, why is it that I am right on the points that I have made and niether one of them can come up with anything to contradict them.

If reference to clowns like Coolm. There is no such thing as a respected legal mind in the area of high volume criminal defense. And the only reputation that they have is worse than ambulance chasers. I still have jeans hanging in my closet with holes worn in the pockets from carrying around a half dozen of them at a time.

One out of hundred of them are pretty damned smart. The rest generaly can not find 3 dimes to rub together and have to stop by the blood bank so they can pay a greens fee.

My credability comes from the fact that I spent years as a high volume bail bondsman. I would likely have more defendents out on bail in any given year than any lawyer would defend over 10 years. I followed every case from start to finish. And I know those sections of the law that pertained to me and my business better than any of them.

As a bondsman I generaly had 1st shot at the defendent. And 1st shot at the money. For the ones willing to play ball, (which was most of them) I would pass out cases to them like you would treats to kids on halloween.

Ada, you are certainly welcome to your opinion. And it usually has great value. But, I'm not the one over my head here.
 
I'm with Gary on this one. Cool and Denver may be known as lawyers on this board, but that doesn't make them better than anybody. At least Denver is handling this with some class, cool bumped his head a couple of years ago and hasn't been the same sense.

Gary brought up that cops have rights, even when off duty, just like they would when they are on duty. I haven't seen anything that disputes that yet, despite cool claiming otherwise (I believe). The truth is, nobody can really be right or wrong, b/c we're arguing a case we don't know the facts to.
 
WTSooner said:
I'm with Gary on this one. Cool and Denver may be known as lawyers on this board, but that doesn't make them better than anybody. At least Denver is handling this with some class, cool bumped his head a couple of years ago and hasn't been the same sense.

Gary brought up that cops have rights, even when off duty, just like they would when they are on duty. I haven't seen anything that disputes that yet, despite cool claiming otherwise (I believe). The truth is, nobody can really be right or wrong, b/c we're arguing a case we don't know the facts to.
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WT, where did I say that CoolM and Denver are better than anyone else? My reference to their status as attorneys applies to legal matters, nothing more.

I'm not taking sides in this debate. I expressed my opinion at the beginning of the thread and added to it on the current page. I have no intentions of wasting anymore of my time trying to figure out who was in the wrong and to what degree at 2:30 in the morning in a Houston night club. That's what lawyers and courts are for.

You're right, none of us can really be sure of the facts in this case. But I don't believe the HPD will fare well if it goes to a court of law and public opinion. If they're smart, they'll apologize and hope that AD drops his lawsuit. JMHO.
 
WTSooner said:
I'm with Gary on this one. Cool and Denver may be known as lawyers on this board, but that doesn't make them better than anybody. At least Denver is handling this with some class, cool bumped his head a couple of years ago and hasn't been the same sense.

Gary brought up that cops have rights, even when off duty, just like they would when they are on duty. I haven't seen anything that disputes that yet, despite cool claiming otherwise (I believe). The truth is, nobody can really be right or wrong, b/c we're arguing a case we don't know the facts to.
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I don't have a clue what status an off duty police officer has under the law. I don't think I have said or implied otherwise. I really know nothing about criminal law. I took one class in law school and that was because it was mandatory.
 
garyeb2 said:
Please. If I'm in over my head, why is it that I am right on the points that I have made and niether one of them can come up with anything to contradict them.
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first, you keep assuming you're right and using that assumption to reinforce what you're saying. nothing here says you're right. about anything. you wrap up a ****load of pessimism and pawn it off as truth. you take a specific area of LAW (since you don't seem to know the difference b/w fact and law) and make it a generality. Police are NOT, I repeat NOT, always acting as police. You're so daft that you don't understand how/when/why that is important and I truly don't feel like explaining a semester of crim law to iron out your gross conceptual error. Which brings up...

second - I just don't feel like arguing with idiots. I deal with you legal wannabe bondsman daily also. Jay, Margie and a few others are good folk ... but most of the rest are dangerous with a speck of knowledge. For example - in the morning I will have to remind one of your brethren how a motion to vacate is not some mystical piece of paper and if they keep selling it we will be forced to go to the bar and, once again, turn in more bondsmen for being dumbasses.

garyeb2 said:
If reference to clowns like Coolm. There is no such thing as a respected legal mind in the area of high volume criminal defense. And the only reputation that they have is worse than ambulance chasers. I still have jeans hanging in my closet with holes worn in the pockets from carrying around a half dozen of them at a time.

One out of hundred of them are pretty damned smart. The rest generaly can not find 3 dimes to rub together and have to stop by the blood bank so they can pay a greens fee.

My credability comes from the fact that I spent years as a high volume bail bondsman. I would likely have more defendents out on bail in any given year than any lawyer would defend over 10 years. I followed every case from start to finish. And I know those sections of the law that pertained to me and my business better than any of them.

As a bondsman I generaly had 1st shot at the defendent. And 1st shot at the money. For the ones willing to play ball, (which was most of them) I would pass out cases to them like you would treats to kids on halloween.

Ada, you are certainly welcome to your opinion. And it usually has great value. But, I'm not the one over my head here.
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LOL you're an idiot. Anyone who listens to a word out of your piehole deserves what they get. I will make sure to tell Ravitz today what a joke you think he is.

You guys can have this jerk. He gives OU fans a bad name.
 
Can't speak much about the law, but all the lawyers I know cheat their asses off when playing golf. Think that's pretty ironic.
 
campbest said:
Can't speak much about the law, but all the lawyers I know cheat their asses off when playing golf. Think that's pretty ironic.
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Most people I know cheat playing golf. the biggest thing I see is people not counting the gimme put at the end of the hole. I have friends that three put every green and claim to have shot 85 or so. If you 3 put every green, you are shooting about 100 because you did not make it to the green in regulation every time.
 
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