Is Joe C a hiring genius?

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as has been written and talked about on this board and others, maybe Joe C isn't the hiring guru everyone seems to think he is.

Joe C did hire Stoops - an A++++

He tried to hire Gene Stephenson from WSU and did, at least for an hour, and then settled on Sunny Galloway - who has been mediocre at best - C

Joe C hired Capel and the grade there is an "I", one great year, one decent year and two bad years. Another bad year and this grade is - at best - a C and likely a D.

Joe C did not hire Sherri Coale?

So he has hired three of the four major jobs at OU - with an A, a C and and I - that's not exactly a track record of greatness.
 
as has been written and talked about on this board and others, maybe Joe C isn't the hiring guru everyone seems to think he is.

Joe C did hire Stoops - an A++++

He tried to hire Gene Stephenson from WSU and did, at least for an hour, and then settled on Sunny Galloway - who has been mediocre at best - C

Joe C hired Capel and the grade there is an "I", one great year, one decent year and two bad years. Another bad year and this grade is - at best - a C and likely a D.

Joe C did not hire Sherri Coale?

So he has hired three of the four major jobs at OU - with an A, a C and and I - that's not exactly a track record of greatness.

I would give him a pass on Galloway. Stephenson put him in a really bad position and he did the best he could.

He hired the new women's gymnastics coach and the new track coach and both programs have improved immensely. Did he hire the men's gymnastics coach? He's been phenomenal. The jury is still out on the new soccer, tennis and golf coaches.

He's also retained the great coaches we have, which some schools can't manage to do.
 
Galloway mediocre?

Guy has taken us to the post season 4 out of 5 years, been within a half a game of regular season Big 12 champs, hosted 2 regionals. And this year was supposed to be a down year and we have done exceptionally well.

I would say a B at the worst, a B+ is more realistic.
 
glad i wasnt a student of yours... your grading sucks!
 
hahah I can't beleive you think Galloway's done a bad job.
 
I would give him a pass on Galloway. Stephenson put him in a really bad position and he did the best he could.

He hired the new women's gymnastics coach and the new track coach and both programs have improved immensely. Did he hire the men's gymnastics coach? He's been phenomenal. The jury is still out on the new soccer, tennis and golf coaches.

He's also retained the great coaches we have, which some schools can't manage to do.

THIS...and YES, Joe C did hire the men's gymnastics coach who has won 5 National Championships in the past 10 years.

If you look at the sports programs across the board at OU at the time Joe C was hired compared to now, I believe OU is better in just about every one of them. Even if Coach Capel doesn't work out, I have confidence Joe will make a great hire to replace him.

About the only thing you can't give credit to Joe C for is the hiring of Sherri Coale. Let's not pretend he would have considered her had he been in charge at that time. Steve Owens hired both Sherri and John Blake because he was sick and tired of the perception that great coaches can't be from the state of Oklahoma. He batted .500 in his two major hires.
 
He's probably part of the "old guard" of OU baseball fans, the Stan Meek/Larry Cochell people that think Ray Hayward would have been the next Tony LaRussa.
 
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He hired our gymnastic coaches. Both are national powers.

He hired Bob Stoops which was a good hire.

Galloway was a good hire we've done a lot better with him than we were doing the last few years of Larry Cochells years.
 
How many schools have gymnastics programs anyway? Let's get serious. Joe C. will forever be known for being a great athletic director because he hired Bob Stoops. Everything else Castigione has done, in my opinion, is pretty standard for all athletic directors. Joe C. has been the beneficiary of having an unbelievable fundraiser for a boss -- David Boren. Obviously, Castiglione is good at what he does, but so are most people at his level. I honestly don't believe he's "special" -- but he is good at what he does.
 
How many schools have gymnastics programs anyway? Let's get serious. Joe C. will forever be known for being a great athletic director because he hired Bob Stoops. Everything else Castigione has done, in my opinion, is pretty standard for all athletic directors. Joe C. has been the beneficiary of having an unbelievable fundraiser for a boss -- David Boren. Obviously, Castiglione is good at what he does, but so are most people at his level. I honestly don't believe he's "special" -- but he is good at what he does.

I think you need to spend some time studying the work of other athletic directors. What Joe has done here is far above and beyond 'standard for all athletic directors'.
 
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And Sherri Coale before Joe C won 28 games in 3 seasons. Granted she took over a program that was basically dead before that but the same time Joe C. took over the womens basketball program won 25 games went to the Sweet 16 and hasn't looked back every since then.
 
as has been written and talked about on this board and others, maybe Joe C isn't the hiring guru everyone seems to think he is.

Joe C did hire Stoops - an A++++

He tried to hire Gene Stephenson from WSU and did, at least for an hour, and then settled on Sunny Galloway - who has been mediocre at best - C

Joe C hired Capel and the grade there is an "I", one great year, one decent year and two bad years. Another bad year and this grade is - at best - a C and likely a D.

Joe C did not hire Sherri Coale?

So he has hired three of the four major jobs at OU - with an A, a C and and I - that's not exactly a track record of greatness.

You must also judge him for the fiscal soundness of our athletic program. We have the fourth largest budget in the Big 12. Our athletic program actually gives money to support the academic program. We are aggressive in our pursuit of excellence and championships in all the sports we compete in. If a program is not competitive, Joe C makes the investments to bring it up to snuff. I don't believe there is a school in the conference who achieves the things we do in most sports in which we compete.

Men's basketball is in crisis right now. But I still believe in Jeff and Joe to right the ship. The amazing thing about basketball is that it can happen quickly. Or not. It remains to be seen if we will be more like Kentucky or Indiana when we get on the other side of this. And besides that Kentucky's and Indiana's football sucks.
 
How many schools have gymnastics programs anyway? Let's get serious. Joe C. will forever be known for being a great athletic director because he hired Bob Stoops. Everything else Castigione has done, in my opinion, is pretty standard for all athletic directors. Joe C. has been the beneficiary of having an unbelievable fundraiser for a boss -- David Boren. Obviously, Castiglione is good at what he does, but so are most people at his level. I honestly don't believe he's "special" -- but he is good at what he does.

You are an ignoramous. The athletic department was in shambles, huge amounts of debt that was getting worse and the facilities were outdated by 15 years at best before Joe C. got here. If Switzer had Joe C and Boren, he would have made Joe Pa and Bowden afterthoughts and Billy Tubbs would have scored 100 in a half by now and won a championship. Switzer did have Duncan but they were undermined by the coward interim president Swank.

OU had terrible leadership for decades, now, no other universtiy has better. YOU BETTER NOT TAKE THAT FOR GRANTED.
 
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as has been written and talked about on this board and others, maybe Joe C isn't the hiring guru everyone seems to think he is.

Joe C did hire Stoops - an A++++

He tried to hire Gene Stephenson from WSU and did, at least for an hour, and then settled on Sunny Galloway - who has been mediocre at best - C

Joe C hired Capel and the grade there is an "I", one great year, one decent year and two bad years. Another bad year and this grade is - at best - a C and likely a D.

Joe C did not hire Sherri Coale?

So he has hired three of the four major jobs at OU - with an A, a C and and I - that's not exactly a track record of greatness.

Umm...please stop posting.
 
Joe has made some really good hires. He also hired Steve Nunno in women's gymnastics, which wasn't good. He also hired Jim Ragan for men's golf, and that was a disaster. He also hired the guy before Restrepo in volleyball (Kahi?) and that was a full-blown Krakatoa of a disaster.

He's been good, he's been bad. Just like any other AD. He can, on the other hand, take your money like nobody's business.
 
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