Is Kelvin a realistic option?
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Hey friend!!! I'm good, working hard and getting old. I visit the board regularly, just don't post much. I will catch you up on things in the near future. Hope you guys are doing well.
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Ten years last October. I believe the launch date was the 28th.
A number of our members were regulars on the Insider board before they came here. DenverSooner, jmizzy, Coolm, BoulderSooner, Skyvue, Sooner04, usedtobe1, Thebigabd, BigTime, MsProudSooner, to name a few. Some of our members had different usernames over there. This board has been one big family longer than I thought it would be around. I think that’s one thing that makes it special.
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i completely agree ... and some of us were also on the secret board way way back ..
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indeed. i always liked Kelvin though i have it on pretty good authority from someone who did legal work in the AD for years*** that had KS showed some contrition and mea culpa to the NCAA it would have lessened OU's penalty considerably. So, the program paid the price for his pride. that is unpleasant to me. Further, one can see KS's approach to his wrongdoing since he did it again at IU.
my mom lived around the corner from the Sampsons in Norman and Kelvin always waved at her driving....and she couldn't care less about basketball really...because of that i found it hard to have hard feelings about the guy even when some criticisms of his OU tenure were and continue to be very valid.
***for what it's worth; me, anonymous poster on the internet...i know.
It's certainly not ridiculous, considering he's coaching a top 10 team despite having far less to work with than what we have here in Norman.
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anyone remember the board back in the mid/late 90's? I know Stephen Alexander's brother and dad posted there...man, that was a long time ago.
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I posted on the secret board for years. I can still quote the URL off the top of my head. I had some pretty good sources inside the program back then, and I'd pass their stuff along from time to time.
But then DenverSooner went off the rails and posted one of my "scoops" all over God's green earth and that was that. The stuff on that board was supposed to be sacred. Oh well.
I wonder where my old friend "Tony" is these days.
But then DenverSooner went off the rails and posted one of my "scoops" all over God's green earth and that was that. The stuff on that board was supposed to be sacred. Oh well.
I wonder where my old friend "Tony" is these days.
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It certainly is ironic, though. As it was on the football boards when many who demanded that Mike Stoops be brought back to Norman were soon screaming for him to be fired, but somehow nary a one of them (that I ever saw) acknowledged how wrong they'd been in the first place. Fans are eager to claim credit for having been "right" in their critiques of a program (we've seen evidence of that here of late), but they rarely acknowledge all the times they were wrong.
I spent too much time and energy defending Coach Sampson back in the day not to snicker when I see him consistently praised to the skies now.
Since they were 0-18 last year in conference play, my guess is there is a talent deficiency there. If he’s 12-14 next year at this time, that would be a problem for Pitt.
Back to Kelvin, while I never wanted to lose him, it was just time for him to move on. At the time he left, he pointed out what Billy Tubbs had once told him - that while OU is great job for about 10 years, but difficult to maintain that level of success much longer. I’m paraphrasing, but that was the gist.
I’m about moving forward. I hope that when the job becomes available, Joe C will cough up the necessary money to get his first choice.
One last tidbit related to Coach Sampson and Coach Tubbs. 90% of those reading this will already know this, but I’ll say it anyway. At the time Kelvin left, OU had the longest consecutive postseason streak in all of D-1 men’s basketball- 25 straight years. It’s something to be proud of for sure.
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There's a difference between Mike returning to the program and Kelvin not returning because you cannot accurately predict who will accept the error of their ways versus those who will not when involving a hypothetical. Kelvin's resume, as it relates to how his teams performed on the court, was not the focal point of criticism, but more of how he ignored the rules imposed on head coaches by the NCAA. Meanwhile, Mike was graded on his performance on the field. Just my two Centavos.
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If I'm not mistaken, Kelvin also had an impressive home winning streak (maybe OOC games only) for a while.
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Top 10 team. LOL. Rankings are semantics. Houston is not top 10. That will be proven soon enough
Kelvin is a good coach but this board reeks of revisionist history. In a P5 conference, he’s worth 20 wins and a tourney bid, no more.
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Sign me up for that every year at a non blue-blood program. Then take your chances in the dance. There's something to be said for consistency and being consistently relevant.
Kelvin was a great coach. He had ou bordering on elite during his tenure. He left for a better job and that sucked but I also don’t want him back. He has a good thing going and Joe C will make a great hire when Lon retires. Both parties will be just fine.
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Is 5 of 6 years good enough?
They are top 10 according to the AP and Coaches poll. They were clearly a top 25 team last year, and it took a historically good shot from the eventual runner-ups to keep them from making a very deep run. This year they're 25-1 (and closer to 26-0 than 25-2) with nonconference wins against BYU, Oregon, OKST, and LSU. The American Conference isn't overly impressive, but it's not a conference that OU would likely win. You don't get to 25-1 without being a darn good ballclub. Perhaps they're only top 15.
Actually, it's revisionist history on your part, as he had a 31 win Final Four season, and had 25+ wins in 5 of his last 7 years here. That's a far cry from your silly "20 wins...no more" talk. As great of a coach as I felt he was when we had him, I firmly believe he's a better coach now thanks to his time in the NBA.
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