Is the NBA in Buddy's future?

[152219]

Most people on here know I am probably the most familiar with Ryan, except for maybe Gary (since he watches alot of their practices and is more in the know than I am now), but I have and still am following Ryans career. I had the privledge(I guess it was) to set behind some NBA scouts and Reps. during the Iowa State game, and about midway in the 1st half I heard them start talking about Ryan, so being nosey, I listen to what they were saying, and actually looked over their shoulders a few times to see what they were writing down. They had written a little on a few players, but on Ryan they had at least a half page or more written down. I won't go into detail what was said or written down, but will say that 152219 probably doesn't need to evaluate any players.

If he plays in a real NBA game I will come on this board and start a new thread stating that I was flat out wrong.

 

[originalsooner55]

If he plays in a real NBA game I will come on this board and start a new thread stating that I was flat out wrong.

That will be great, I think he has already made several posters on here eat their words, so you will be able to join them in a couple of years.

 

[ben]

If buddy develops more of a stop and shoot from inside the arc, I think he will advance to that next level. It seems all he does is shoot threes and drive in for off the backboard buckets (and it works most of the time). He just needs to develop a sweet pullout.

 

[ousooners1baby]

He really handles the ball poorly for his size and skills. The sky is the limit though and drafts are mostly based only potential.

 

[152219]

That will be great, I think he has already made several posters on here eat their words, so you will be able to join them in a couple of years.

And considering your condescension, you going to admit I was right if he doesn't play in a real NBA game (summer league doesn't count)?

 

[NickZepp]

Those guys eat everyone alive. If he improves his jumpshot and perimeter defense he could be a shorter nick collison.

That's a pretty good comparason. This isn't the NBA of the 90s which had 7 foot guys dominating the league. But I don't see Spangler starting in the pros. Good bench guy that will give good effort on defense and rebound effectively. Hield has to improve in a lot of areas before he can play in the league as well.

 

[originalsooner55]

That's a pretty good comparason. This isn't the NBA of the 90s which had 7 foot guys dominating the league. But I don't see Spangler starting in the pros. Good bench guy that will give good effort on defense and rebound effectively. Hield has to improve in a lot of areas before he can play in the league as well.

Nick, I think that is a good assessment. I think Buddy and Ryan have some skills to work on and if they continue to improve on those the next couple of years, they will have a shot at landing on an NBA team. I am not saying as a starter, but on a roster.

 

[DenverSooner]

Most people on here know I am probably the most familiar with Ryan, except for maybe Gary (since he watches alot of their practices and is more in the know than I am now), but I have and still am following Ryans career. I had the privledge(I guess it was) to set behind some NBA scouts and Reps. during the Iowa State game, and about midway in the 1st half I heard them start talking about Ryan, so being nosey, I listen to what they were saying, and actually looked over their shoulders a few times to see what they were writing down. They had written a little on a few players, but on Ryan they had at least a half page or more written down. I won't go into detail what was said or written down, but will say that 152219 probably doesn't need to evaluate any players.

The fool said Spangler wasn't very athletic. Think about how stupid that is.

 

[AdaSooner]

If Spangler was two inches taller, we would all be saying there's a place for him in the NBA. He clearly has to improve his handles and his outside shot to even have a chance, but with two more years to develop his game I wouldn't count him out completely.

Although I hate to compare Ryan to someone who has totally embarrassed himself lately, Spangler reminds me of Dennis Rodman in his nose for the ball and the way he goes after rebounds and 50-50 balls. Rodman was probably longer than Spangler, but he was only listed at 6' 7". There's still a place in the NBA for another "Worm," a nickname that may be more appropriate now than in his NBA days.

 

[NickZepp]

The guy that he's compared to in this thread Collison is probably only an inch taller than Spangler. But against Collison in college was probably a better player. Spangler still has 2 years to prove otherwise.

Rodman could jump out of the gym. And usually had to against the big guys he faced. I don't see Spangler as that next level type athlete. He's a good athlete don't get me wrong. But not that type of a freak athletically. He will have to get ahead by being sneaky athletic and being able to do a lot of little things that don't always show up on the stats sheet.

Go back to the Collison comparison. Collison is a great passer, has great handles for the most part. He's pretty much the perfect team guy for the Thunder even though he doesn't light up the stat sheet in the NBA. He's one of the more important role players on the Thunder's roster. I don't know if Spangler can be that good. Spangler is still a long ways from being that on an NBA roster.

 

[152219]

The fool said Spangler wasn't very athletic. Think about how stupid that is.

LOL at the name calling. For the NBA IMO he isn't athletic enough. He is a below the rim player. Nothing wrong with that in college but at the NBA level that doesn't work out well for guys who are 6'7"-6'8" and play on the blocks.

 

[WTSooner]

The problem with the Collison comparison is not only the height difference, but also the fact that I'd bet Collison has a larger wing span than Spangler, and moreso than just those 2-3 inches in height would suggest. If that makes sense.

 

[campbest]

The problem with the Collison comparison is not only the height difference, but also the fact that I'd bet Collison has a larger wing span than Spangler, and moreso than just those 2-3 inches in height would suggest. If that makes sense.

Or the fact Collison was a complete beast in college.

 

[AdaSooner]

If Spangler can improve his skills enough in the next two years, I would agree that the Collison comparison would be a better fit. He's not there yet. That's why I compared him to Rodman. Rodman did not have a lot of skills. His strength was his nose for the ball and his relentless pursuit of every rebound and loose ball. Spangler is like that, too, although I would agree that he's not blessed with Rodman's hops.

 

[152219]

If Spangler can improve his skills enough in the next two years, I would agree that the Collison comparison would be a better fit. He's not there yet. That's why I compared him to Rodman. Rodman did not have a lot of skills. His strength was his nose for the ball and his relentless pursuit of every rebound and loose ball. Spangler is like that, too, although I would agree that he's not blessed with Rodman's hops.

Or Rodman's long arms.

I think Spangler is a tenacious rebounder like Kenneth Faried, if you want a recent example, but again he doesn't have Farried's hops. But he does have a nose for the ball like Farried which is his hustle, desire, and instinct. Love he is on the Sooners and he will likely be beloved when he leaves.

You could argue he is a taller Ernier Abercrombie

 

[DenverSooner]

LOL at the name calling. For the NBA IMO he isn't athletic enough. He is a below the rim player. Nothing wrong with that in college but at the NBA level that doesn't work out well for guys who are 6'7"-6'8" and play on the blocks.

The guy was the top basketball player in the state of Oklahoma and one of the best football players in the State of Oklahoma as senior in high school. He didn't just play football, he played QB. Anyone that would ever use the words not very athletic to describe someone like that is a fool. This puts Spangler well into the top 99 percentile of Oklahoma high school athletes. You have to be athletic to make that group. But this is just the starting point of the absurdity of statements like yours.

Spangler is clearly a borderline NBA guy. Guys that play in the NBA are not just good athletes, they are in the top 99.9999982 percentile of male basketball players. There are 30 NBA teams with 15 guys on each roster. That is 450 people. There are over 300,000,000 people in the United States and over 7 Billion people on the planet. The NBA is international. If you say 3,500,000,000 people are men, you are talking about 450/3,500,000,000. If you want to split hairs about gender, it does not materially change the numbers.

Do you now understand how stupid it is to suggest a borderline NBA player is not very athletic?

 

[152219]

He is not athletic enough to play in the NBA IMO. That isn't comparing his athleticism to the general population but a conversation about the NBA and a player's prospects of making the the league. How hard is that to figure out? You have created an argument in your mind that has nothing to do with the conversation at hand. So I thank you for creating a nice Strawman.

 

[CoachTalk]

The guy was the top basketball player in the state of Oklahoma and one of the best football players in the State of Oklahoma as senior in high school. He didn't just play football, he played QB. Anyone that would ever use the words not very athletic to describe someone like that is a fool. This puts Spangler well into the top 99 percentile of Oklahoma high school athletes. You have to be athletic to make that group. But this is just the starting point of the absurdity of statements like yours.

Spangler is clearly a borderline NBA guy. Guys that play in the NBA are not just good athletes, they are in the top 99.9999982 percentile of male basketball players. There are 30 NBA teams with 15 guys on each roster. That is 450 people. There are over 300,000,000 people in the United States and over 7 Billion people on the planet. The NBA is international. If you say 3,500,000,000 people are men, you are talking about 450/3,500,000,000. If you want to split hairs about gender, it does not materially change the numbers.

Do you now understand how stupid it is to suggest a borderline NBA player is not very athletic?

BAM! Bringing the heat on this Chilly/Freaking COLD Friday Morning!

 

[WTSooner]

When somebody is discussing a college player's athleticism, they aren't comparing it to the 5'5" dork that sits on the end of the bench for Chickasaw HS. They are likely comparing his athleticism to the NBA players he'd be fighting with for a roster spot.

And in that regards, Spangler is towards the end of the list. It isn't his athleticism that is going to win him a bench job one day, perhaps. It'll be his work ethic. His motor. His basketball IQ. Stuff like that.

 

[BCSooners]

Or the fact Collison was a complete beast in college.

Collison soph. year: 14 pts 7 rebs 59%FG 27 mins/gm played.

Spangler: 11 pts 10 rebs 60%FG 29 mins/gm played.

Spangler may not be the senior collison was, but then again he's on pace to be a great college basketball player.