It appears MU is more serious about Stevie Clark than I first thought

[StatGeek]

Nothing I posted was intended as smack.

What's OU's updated total wins number? The most recent number I could find was 1,511, which is below Mizzou by about 15.

Conference titles are the same, whether you're talking regular season or tournament.

Both MU and OU have had 20 different players earn All-American recognition.

You have a 45-40 edge in players drafted in the last 60 years of the NBA draft (a difference of one extra guy drafted every 12 years).

You have a head to head lead of about a dozen, but that difference occurred before 1975; since then, the two teams are even (actually a slight MU lead, I believe).

The only real difference between OU and MU is in one six-point OU win in the elite eight, a game in which MU missed 14 free throws and Gilbert went 1-16 from the floor. Just a below average game from him and MU very easily could have won that game, and each program would have one final four in the modern era.

But by all means continue believing OU is a superior program.

(we lose three major contributors and will bring three back while moving to a weaker overall conference; I'm not at all worried about MU's basketball future)

And nobody in the country considers OU a basketball school. You just proved Mizzou isn't a basketball school, good job! :clap

P.S. We obviously have the better basketball resume, if we want to make excuses to make ourselves feel better we should have beaten Kansas for a National Championship & we should have beat Indiana in the Final Four for a chance to play Maryland for a second championship. But that's not how it works.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot I think to be considered a basketball school you must win 20 or more games in a season a minimum of 12 years in a row. Mizzou has never done so in 5 straight years. Guess which school fits this criteria????

 

[152219]

Nothing I posted was intended as smack.

What's OU's updated total wins number? The most recent number I could find was 1,511, which is below Mizzou by about 15.

Conference titles are the same, whether you're talking regular season or tournament.

Both MU and OU have had 20 different players earn All-American recognition.

You have a 45-40 edge in players drafted in the last 60 years of the NBA draft (a difference of one extra guy drafted every 12 years).

You have a head to head lead of about a dozen, but that difference occurred before 1975; since then, the two teams are even (actually a slight MU lead, I believe).

The only real difference between OU and MU is in one six-point OU win in the elite eight, a game in which MU missed 14 free throws and Gilbert went 1-16 from the floor. Just a below average game from him and MU very easily could have won that game, and each program would have one final four in the modern era.

But by all means continue believing OU is a superior program.

(we lose three major contributors and will bring three back while moving to a weaker overall conference; I'm not at all worried about MU's basketball future)

Modern era = since the advent of the 64 team tourney. Do you either disagree with that or have a very poor recollection of OU's basketball history?

 

[152219]

All-time
http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2009/1004/cbe1.pdf

Since the 64 team tournament
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3493766
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3491747

Neither of those have been updated in a couple of years but no chance Mizzou comes close to jumping OU in either of those.

And no, I'm not arguing OU is as a basketball school

 

[152219]

Basketball-reference.com also did a rankings over the past 31 years in 2010
http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=8212
http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=7166

 

[152219]

Since the '84-85 season (beginning of 64 team tournament)

Mizzou
3 regular season conference championships
5 tourney championships
17 NCAA appearances
0 NCAA championship game appearances
0 Final Fours
3 Elite 8 appearances (one which was vacated FWIW)
4 Sweet 16s


OU
5 regular season conference championships
6 tourney championships
20 NCAA appearances
1 NCAA championship game appearances
2 Final Fours
5 Elite 8 appearances (one which was vacated FWIW)
8 Sweet 16s

 

[152219]

And since the '84-85 season, OU leads 29-25 head to head from a quick count.

 

[152219]

Last one...all-time

Mizzou
15 regular season conference championships
7 tourney championships
24 NCAA appearances
0 NCAA championship game appearances
0 Final Fours
4 Elite 8 appearances (one which was vacated FWIW)
7 Sweet 16s


OU
15 regular season conference championships
7 tourney championships
27 NCAA appearances
2 NCAA championship game appearances
4 Final Fours
8 Elite 8 appearances (one which was vacated FWIW)
8 Sweet 16s

All-time head to head OU leads 112-97

 

[Stikboy]

 

[Seymore Cox]

Bet Mizzou feels like they made a mistake....

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[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RS7B0yxMag[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP9MZdCCi_8[/ame]

Kansas too.

 

[Sooner23]

Last one...all-time

Mizzou
15 regular season conference championships
7 tourney championships
24 NCAA appearances
0 NCAA championship game appearances
0 Final Fours
4 Elite 8 appearances (one which was vacated FWIW)
7 Sweet 16s


OU
15 regular season conference championships
7 tourney championships
27 NCAA appearances
2 NCAA championship game appearances
4 Final Fours
8 Elite 8 appearances (one which was vacated FWIW)
8 Sweet 16s

All-time head to head OU leads 112-97