Jelon is transferring

[Capel's Mustache]

I wonder if Kruger would be open to Je'lon changing his mind and sticking around.

See ya

 

[Max Power]

See ya

I agree, he already quit on the team by leaving, I don't want his attitude anywhere near the team

 

[jerry]

Said it before and I will say it again. BYE BYE Jelon!

 

[KBaden145]

As important as buy-in and chemistry is to Coach, I would think he'd be the last coach in America to take back a player that quit on his team.


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[skyvue]

As important as buy-in and chemistry is to Coach, I would think he'd be the last coach in America to take back a player that quit on his team.

And I would certainly trust Coach's judgement on the matter, if it arose, but I think it's possible for a player to make the decision to leave out of frustration, but quickly reconsider and, if taken back, return with a decent attitude. The player might even be grateful to be given a second chance.

I have no idea if that applies to Je'lon, and as I say, I would trust Coach Kruger's decision, in any case, but I could see where it might hypothetically work out, depending upon the player and the particular circumstances.

 

[sperry]

And I would certainly trust Coach's judgement on the matter, if it arose, but I think it's possible for a player to make the decision to leave out of frustration, but quickly reconsider and, if taken back, return with a decent attitude. The player might even be grateful to be given a second chance.

I have no idea if that applies to Je'lon, and as I say, I would trust Coach Kruger's decision, in any case, but I could see where it might hypothetically work out, depending upon the player and the particular circumstances.

Yeah it's not like JeLon just bailed on the team the day after the season and didn't tell anyone. He thought about it, stayed with the team for a few weeks, and ultimately decided to leave. I would not be surprised at all if coach allowed him to reconsider. That being said, it sounds like he wants to be the man somewhere, and that's not going to be here, so a change of heart seems unlikely, at least in a short enough time frame for it to matter.

 

[garyeb2]

I was sitting in the practice gym when Coach gathered up the team at midcourt to tell them Jelon was gone. He then went into his " if you are not happy here, you need to be gone speech"

I wasn't close enough to pick off every word. But, my interpretation was that Jelon is gone because he wasn't happy. And if anyone else is unhappy, they are welcome to go with him.

The remaining team members seemed to all get happy pretty quick and they proceeded to have a spirited practice. My guess is that Jelon is gone and under no circumstance would he be invited back.

 

[SoonerTraveler]

I was sitting in the practice gym when Coach gathered up the team at midcourt to tell them Jelon was gone. He then went into his " if you are not happy here, you need to be gone speech"

I wasn't close enough to pick off every word. But, my interpretation was that Jelon is gone because he wasn't happy. And if anyone else is unhappy, they are welcome to go with him.

The remaining team members seemed to all get happy pretty quick and they proceeded to have a spirited practice. My guess is that Jelon is gone and under no circumstance would he be invited back.

Love it! I wish more "managers" would use this approach: If you are not happy here, you need to be gone. It is best for all concerned.

 

[WTSooner]

He was almost certainly unhappy about playing time and not starting, and that wasn't/isn't likely to change. No reason for him to come back, as he would continue to be unhappy, which doesn't help our team/program. I understand why he is unhappy, and which him well.

 

[WTSooner]

Love it! I wish more "managers" would use this approach: If you are not happy here, you need to be gone. It is best for all concerned.

This reminds me of something I read this week that was really cool, and I thought was a great idea.

I believe it is Amazon. Once a year, on each employee's anniversary of working at Amazon, they offer that employee a certain amount of money to simply quit. They get offered $1k after one year. $2k after two years. $3k after 3 years. Up to $5k. I assume they get offered $5k to quit every year going forward beginning with that 5th anniversary.

The reasoning is that they don't want people working for them that don't want to be there. So if you think a couple thousand dollars is worth quitting over, you probably weren't enjoying your job enough, and they felt it best to not have you working there. The people that would stay, especially when offered the $5k, were the people that really valued their jobs, and were looking more long term.

I thought that was neat.

 

[Northbase]

In any successful organization or team, you can't afford to have negative and disruptive influences around your members. It is extremely anti productive.

 

[AdaSooner]

Love it! I wish more "managers" would use this approach: If you are not happy here, you need to be gone. It is best for all concerned.

I couldn't agree more, Traveler!

As someone who was in upper-management myself once, I can confirm that an unhappy employee is often the prime example of that old saying, "one bad apple can spoil the whole barrel." I believe that is especially true of a smaller and hopefully close knit group like a basketball team.

That's not to suggest that Je'lon was a "bad apple." On the contrary, I believe he is a fine young man. But, if he was not happy at OU, his attitude would eventually effect his teammates, no matter how hard he tried to hide it.

 

[campbest]

Yeah it's not like JeLon just bailed on the team the day after the season and didn't tell anyone. He thought about it, stayed with the team for a few weeks, and ultimately decided to leave. I would not be surprised at all if coach allowed him to reconsider. That being said, it sounds like he wants to be the man somewhere, and that's not going to be here, so a change of heart seems unlikely, at least in a short enough time frame for it to matter.

That will not happen at the vast majority of D1 schools.

Jelon needs to realize his bread and butter is getting the team into their offense, knocking down open 3's and playing defense. If he has ideas that he can be more than that, is in for a rude awakening. Unless he is transferring to another school with a higher academic pedigree than OU, I just don't see the point. With that said, if he isn't happy, should do what he feels is best for him.

 

[KBaden145]

Every basketball team is a roster of role players. The role of some is to be the star. For some, it is to defend and rebound. Some set screens and contribute to keeping the ball and teammates moving. Others handle the ball and set up teammates. Some start, others come off the bench, and others bust their ass in practice to make the guys who play better. Problems arise when guys don't like the role they are suited for or are asked to play. It's obvious Jelon was unhappy with his role. It's also obvious his role was not going to change. He made it through the season and part of the off season but decided to quit this team and his role on it for a role on a team somewhere else. When a kid does that, he's making decisions for himself and his own desires, a part of that team killing term we call selfishness. I doubt Lon Kruger, in his designs for the program and this team, accounted for players choosing to be selfish and then being rewarded or forgiven for it. Silly to think there would a chance of a player quitting on his coaches and teammates and then being welcomed back.


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[WTSooner]

I don't think Jelon was unhappy not being our star. I think he was unhappy first and foremost with being moved to pg, from sg, then from starting to the bench. I think if he was the first sg off the bench, and playing 20+ minutes, he might have been okay. But I don't think he wants to play pg, especially coming off the bench.

 

[skyvue]

Silly to think there would a chance of a player quitting on his coaches and teammates and then being welcomed back.

I agree it's unlikely, but silly? Not necessarily. I suspect most of us have looked back with some regret on a decision we made, and if that regret came sooner than later and someone gave us a chance to "take it back," so to speak, who's to say we wouldn't come back to the situation we left behind -- a team, an organization, a relationship -- with a new attitude and a greater appreciation of what we had.

As for Traveler's manager telling anyone who's not happy they should go, I get that, too, though I've worked for a few managers who could have benefited from saying, "If you're not happy, come talk to me about it; let's see if we can work things out to the benefit of both of us."

Sometimes otherwise dedicated employees have every reason for being disgruntled or dissatisfied, and it would behoove the manager overseeing them to rethink things.

I'm NOT saying this applies to Coach Kruger, mind you, but to some workplaces I've found myself in.

 

[KBaden145]

Workplaces and college athletic teams are a difficult comparison for me to make. Don't like to think of it that way and don't think the dynamic is really the same.


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