Kansas Under Investigation?

[Soonermarty]

Just read on Twitter where they're looking into rape of 16 year old girl.

Kansas University police probe alleged rape of 16-year-old girl at men's basketball dorm fxn.ws/2k2LSri via @Gaydosland

 

[SoonerWarVet]

I read an article about this in this morning's Wichita Eagle. The article lists 6 basketball players as potential witnesses but they are refusing to release information on the suspect. I wonder if they are being extra careful after the last incident that did not turn out to be true.

 

[152219]

I read an article about this in this morning's Wichita Eagle. The article lists 6 basketball players as potential witnesses but they are refusing to release information on the suspect. I wonder if they are being extra careful after the last incident that did not turn out to be true.

The last incident was true, but just that the female hit the player first and he pushed her.

 

[TheMont]

More info: http://deadspin.com/police-investigating-report-of-16-year-old-girl-raped-a-1791627640

 

[SoonerBounce13]

wow!

I don't want to make light of this, but this may be the downfall of KU bball
1/26/2017

 

[SoonerBounce13]

and this happened over a month ago? wow

I guess we should wait for the facts to come out....ie duke lacrosse

 

[chuckb]

Some interesting points in the article bear noting:

1. This is an all-male dorm that houses the KU basketball team but other non-basketball players live there as well.
2. That said, many of the witnesses are basketball players. This could be meaningful for the basketball team or maybe they were all hanging out in the next room and heard something.
3. The school's police department usually posts crimes "within a couple of days" but, for some unknown reason, this one was delayed by several weeks. It could be an oversight, of course, but it wouldn't be the 1st time that a school's police department covered up rapes committed by the school's athletes (Baylor and Florida St., to name just 2).
4. There seems to be "a suspect." The article doesn't refer to multiple suspects so it seems unlikely that this was a sort of gang rape situation where the basketball players named as witnesses were participants. In fact, the "suspect" is not named so the fact that the 6 basketball players are named as witnesses implies that none of them are the suspect. That doesn't mean the suspect isn't a KU basketball player, of course, but it seems unlikely that the suspect is one of those 6.
5. There is a 2nd police report for "a runaway child" on the same night as the alleged rape and lists Carlton Bragg as one of the witnesses. Is this a 2nd person or is the runaway child also the girl who was allegedly raped? My completely uneducated guess is that the "runaway child" is the girl who was allegedly raped but the article doesn't make that clear.

 

[AdaSooner]

Maybe one of the attorneys here can answer this question. If this turns out to be true, is it possible the six players who allegedly witnessed the rape may be complicit in a crime?

Even if they're not, I would be very concerned about the character and the integrity of any player who would stand by and watch while a sixteen years old girl is sexually molested.

 

[ksSooner13]

Some interesting points in the article bear noting:

1. This is an all-male dorm that houses the KU basketball team but other non-basketball players live there as well.

My little cousin goes to KU, he said the dorm in question houses about 40 people, the basketball team and upperclassmen.

 

[BoulderSooner]

My little cousin goes to KU, he said the dorm in question houses about 40 people, the basketball team and upperclassmen.

from one of the stories it is a 38 person dorm .... which would mean 20 of the 38 would have to be non athletes ..

 

[tycat947]

What a crock! Wonder what other athletes think??? $12M for 38 people???

https://housing.ku.edu/mccarthy

 

[Big Old Booger]

Some interesting points in the article bear noting:

1. This is an all-male dorm that houses the KU basketball team but other non-basketball players live there as well.
2. That said, many of the witnesses are basketball players. This could be meaningful for the basketball team or maybe they were all hanging out in the next room and heard something.
3. The school's police department usually posts crimes "within a couple of days" but, for some unknown reason, this one was delayed by several weeks. It could be an oversight, of course, but it wouldn't be the 1st time that a school's police department covered up rapes committed by the school's athletes (Baylor and Florida St., to name just 2).
4. There seems to be "a suspect." The article doesn't refer to multiple suspects so it seems unlikely that this was a sort of gang rape situation where the basketball players named as witnesses were participants. In fact, the "suspect" is not named so the fact that the 6 basketball players are named as witnesses implies that none of them are the suspect. That doesn't mean the suspect isn't a KU basketball player, of course, but it seems unlikely that the suspect is one of those 6.
5. There is a 2nd police report for "a runaway child" on the same night as the alleged rape and lists Carlton Bragg as one of the witnesses. Is this a 2nd person or is the runaway child also the girl who was allegedly raped? My completely uneducated guess is that the "runaway child" is the girl who was allegedly raped but the article doesn't make that clear.

The runaway child is who was raped is what they were saying on the local kc sports radio station yesterday.

Also, they found drug paraphernalia and it was mentioned in the sentence below Frank Mason, which some in KC were speculating he may have been the one with the drug paraphernalia.

 

[AdaSooner]

If this investigation grows into a full blown scandal going forward, could it have an affect on Trae Young's decision?

It seems to me the unknowns of what may lie ahead if the NCAA gets involved, for example, would give the Youngs a reason for concern. This could also be a time when Mama Young steps in to question the wisdom of allowing their son to attend a school and live in the same dorm where a minor was allegedly raped.

That may be a stretch on my part. I'll freely admit it's wishful thinking because I want to see Trae pick OU. But assuming the campus police investigation turns out to be true, It's easy for me to believe this may be a game changer.

 

[chuckb]

Maybe one of the attorneys here can answer this question. If this turns out to be true, is it possible the six players who allegedly witnessed the rape may be complicit in a crime?

Even if they're not, I would be very concerned about the character and the integrity of any player who would stand by and watch while a sixteen years old girl is sexually molested.

"Witness" here doesn't mean that they necessarily witnessed the rape. Maybe they saw the girl go to the room with the guy. Maybe they saw her leave screaming and crying. We have no idea here what they witnessed. I'm no lawyer, but I would think that they could be charged with a crime if they actually witnessed the rape and did nothing to stop it. I would be surprised if that's the case here since they're all named and the "suspect" is not.

 

[chuckb]

If this investigation grows into a full blown scandal going forward, could it have an affect on Trae Young's decision?

It seems to me the unknowns of what may lie ahead if the NCAA gets involved, for example, would give the Youngs a reason for concern. This could also be a time when Mama Young steps in to question the wisdom of allowing their son to attend a school and live in the same dorm where a minor was allegedly raped.

That may be a stretch on my part. I'll freely admit it's wishful thinking because I want to see Trae pick OU. But assuming the campus police investigation turns out to be true, It's easy for me to believe this may be a game changer.

I would think it could affect his decision. Baylor's a different animal, obviously, because their problems were, and still are, institutional. But I've got a son and daughter just a couple years away from going to college and I live about 3 hours away from Waco. There is no way either of my kids will go to Baylor. Period.

To me, this looks like an isolated incident, not what occurred at Baylor. But I would still think if it affects who's playing on the team, what the security or conditions are like in the dorms, etc...it could affect Trae's decision. On the other hand, the Mixon incident shows that abuse of women by athletes isn't restricted to KU.

 

[Soonerinkc]

Interesting, not 1 word on espn about this...on ncaa bball page.

 

[OUHoops]

Nothing will happen.

 

[AdaSooner]

Interesting, not 1 word on espn about this...on ncaa bball page.

I don't think ESPN will be able to ignore this issue too much longer. Maybe they're waiting for the campus police to complete their investigation. This story is all over the web in a number of newspapers and other print/broadcast outlets.

 

[oketex]

Guys from a law enforcement standpoint, those who observed and did not report could get involved real quick, keeping your trap shut is not a good thing with something like this. But before we all jump on the "Kick KU" bandwagon let's give it time to develop, know one wants to damage a kids reputation without cause.

 

[Soonermarty]

Interesting, not 1 word on espn about this...on ncaa bball page.

I actually first read about it on Fox News. I'm sure ESPN will pick the story up. It seems to be gaining traction.