I have no idea why I am responding to this drivel....
Leave it to a conservative to belittle and question official statistics that weaken their argument only to, wait for it, post a link to more statistics that show the same thing. Even your cherry picked micro stats show your wrong.
Playmakrs FBI stats:
Illinois population 12.9 Million.
Illinois Murders 452 or 3.5/100,000
Illinois Firearm Murders 377 2.92/100,000
Oklahoma Population 3.7 Million
Oklahoma Murders 204 or 5.51/100,000 or 58% worse than Illinois.
Oklahoma Firearm Murders 131 or 3.54/100,000 or 21% worse than Illinois.
Of course I'm quite certain this is over your head because math & conservative do not correlate.
Boca, son, the FBI link was for Bounces (and I guess now CoolM's) information to show how few murders occur with rifles. (But I do agree with CoolM that if one life is saved then let's talk about it) A smart person would have deduced this by reading the words....
Bounce start with this about rifles....Now, I realize you aren't very smart and you are simply pushing an agenda, which is a poor combination, but please try to use what little brain power you have to not waste my time. At no time did anyone but you choose to compare Oklahoma and Illinois.
More credible and relevant information is to look at what happened as a result of what laws in each state. For example, as I briefly touched on, there was a handgun ban in Chicago in the 80's, and it did nothing to quell gun violence, in fact the homicide rates went up (there was a dip in the late 90s and early 2000s with the economy roaring and Chicago has followed the nation in decreasing gun violence trends after the increases) and the amount of guns in population at best has stayed the same, despite registries decreasing. The SCOTUS a few years ago has since ruled the ban unconstitutional in a landmark decision post Heller citing the 14th Amendment which the Heller ruling didn't touch, but Quinn and his coterie in the state legislature have made it so difficult to get a license they might as well still be banned. Even still, since the ban was ruled unconstitutional, the gun violence has actually gone down, but I would note it is a drop consistent with the recent drop nationwide.
As noted, over the past decade plus, gun violence has decreased in this country as gun control has decreased and gun crime has gone down as the amount of guns has increased, (but also less owners, on the flip side) according to your FBI.. Now, I am not going to suggest a direct correlation because of the wide range of factors such as the impact of black market on gun #'s, but to try and argue/correlate the opposite doesnt even make sense and is moronic or blissfully ignorant. Also, these trends do not necessarily mean there aren't rational steps to take to limit these shooting sprees. I'm certainly not saying that.
Let me know if you need any further education on the situation in Illinois, it is a bellwether state on this issue.
You can go on as many mindless rants as you want, but I remain skeptical of the progress which could be made when such actions have had no impact to this point. The tough laws in CT both worked and failed, all in one horrible tragedy. Granted, you haven't actually proposed anything, you have only screamed at the top of your lungs that guns are bad. If you actually made a legitimate proposal, you might find I would be more receptive to it than your limited scope (no pun intended) imagines. But that's not how you operate. Your M.O. is to make anyone not as far left as Kucinich and yourself look like a brainless/backwards kook. That way, you falsely
appear brilliant and, cool. It's a common strategy for people who have only discussed issues with people that agree with them, or the weak minded.
Of course it's typical. Guns are for paranoid idiots.
I laugh at Playmakr saying he's got a handgun that has been locked in a safe for 2 years and he somehow thinks if that mythical home invasion happens all of a sudden he's going to be able to safely and proficiently use it to protect himself.
Of course all the evidence shows the dip will more than likely have a Plaxico Burress event and cause himself to be injured.
I haven't opened the safe in two years because that's the time when our old home in Oklahoma City was intruded by an armed burglar who kicked in the door in the middle of the damn afternoon. Luckily the situation didn't escalate and the coward ran off. And I can handle the gun fine.
The District of Columbia vs. Heller that CoolM cited specifically upheld the legality of owning handguns, ESPECIALLY for self defense within the home. Hell, that's the main portion of the SCOTUS ruling. One could say it's the backbone of the ruling. So you can lol like an ignorant bozo all you want, but the SCOTUS has spoken and I'm going to keep my gun. Will I ever need it? Probably not. But I'm not willing to bet my families life on it, and the law of the land, upheld by the SCOTUS, states I don't have to. So take it up with them.
Note, boca, if it were you invading my home, I wouldn't need the gun. I'm sure you wouldn't be armed.
