MBB Transfer Portal Thread: Moser Year 4

jdizzle34 said:
Because the BMDs and Joe C. don't care about basketball. Simple as that.
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So when exactly did Joe C. stop caring about basketball?

And Joe C. isn't the only one that matters. Nobody else cares about it? The President doesn't care about it? NONE of the donors care about it?

A BIG deal was made at the time we hired Porter that he met with Joe C. to make sure the support and resources were in place. It's been rumored the same conversation happened at the end of the season when Porter was flirting with DePaul, and Porter AGAIN liked what he heard enough to stick around.

Much like nearly everything else that gets discussed on this board, our NIL issues are being VASTLY overblown.
 
TSSR said:
Has to be leadership more than the BMD's.
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No. That’s not how it works. The money tells the story. If the BMDs want something done, they put pressure on Joe C and the prez, then it gets done. If Joe C isn’t acting on it, then he’s not under any pressure to get it done. If Joe is indifferent to bball, and he is, it’s because not enough BMDs care about bball.
 
MJSooner said:
Dude. You do realize those you claim to look foolish aren't supporting Moser as much as we are supporting the absolute success of OU basketball.

I would rather OU grab a great roster, win 25 games next year, go the Sweet 16, and Moser get an extension vs. going sub .500 next year and having to fire PM. Honestly, I don't give a crap who the HC is as long as they can win and not damage the program and/or university in an embarrassing way, ie. scandal/cheating. But I'm rooting for the utmost success from Moser because he is our HC and I want success for OU hoops.

Is that success likely? Probably not at this point, but I'm not rooting for the bottom to fall out just to change coaches. Those are the clowns.
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We are all (most of us) rooting for OU/Moser to succeed.

No rational person can think this is going to work, though. He’s a lame duck who is 0-3 going for the NCAAs, and to top it off he has a non-competitive NIL amount.

The time to circle the wagons has come and gone.
 
colston15 said:
We are all (most of us) rooting for OU/Moser to succeed.

No rational person can think this is going to work, though. He’s a lame duck who is 0-3 going for the NCAAs, and to top it off he has a non-competitive NIL amount.

The time to circle the wagons has come and gone.
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But who can come in and have success without competitive NIL? THAT is the problem, much more than a coach who can make a difference of a couple games here and there.
 
WTSooner said:
If we miss out on all of those guys.....Pedulla, Garrison, Overton, Scott, and Godfrey, how does Moser keep his job?

Those of you that have supported him this entire time look straight up foolish. Dude is clowning you and clowning our program.
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I supported him until the tourney miss. Like full homer. "OU's trending up". Sort of true but it's not enough.

But I also know no one's paying his buyout. Come on, we all knew/know that. I'm not knocking the admin, just stating the obvious tendencies (fiscally conservative). Our best bet was for Moser to Calipari himself (parachute).

I championed Will Wade (when the DePaul stuff was happening). I know, he has baggage, and I get why others don't want that. I'm so tired of the roster mismanagement, though. It became a glaring issue with Lon and it has been an issue for 3-4 years under Moser. It's been a staple for 5 years at least (since Buddy?). Wade would have brought in dudes and an influx of NIL (self-NIL and some excitement, maybe). There's no way he'd lose Pedulla to Ole Piss (JMO)...assuming Wade would have wanted him.

I'm firmly of the opinion now...that Moser's done and what we're witnessing now are the vapors of his OU career. Sadly, again, it's not going to happen today. We'll have to endure another long season. $6M reasons, plus piss poor timing, why Moser will be in Norman for another season.

At the same time, I'm going to hope I'm wrong, and I'm cheering for a roster miracle. I want Moser to succeed because ultimately, I don't hate the guy, and I don't actually care who the damn coach is as long as they're winning games. Hire Dawn Staley if that means OU is getting to the tourney/having a chance to make a run.
 
tmeyer3307 said:
Hall/Forsythe
Elvis/Cooper
Jadon Jones/Cole or transfer
Moore/Godfrey
Godwin/Godfrey/Norweather.

I could roll with that squad. I'm super high on Jadon Jones & Dallin Hall. Hope Cole, Cooper & Norweather make jumpes.
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Ick. That lineup might struggle to average 60 ppg.
 
colston15 said:
We are all (most of us) rooting for OU/Moser to succeed.

No rational person can think this is going to work, though. He’s a lame duck who is 0-3 going for the NCAAs, and to top it off he has a non-competitive NIL amount.

The time to circle the wagons has come and gone.
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But it hasn't. Joe C and the admin (and BMDs) have decided to keep him for another year.

Because of that, a true fan would root for his success more than failure next year because that means our team succeeds. Is it likely? Maybe/probably not. But it seems there have been posts or individuals that root for his failure more than success so Joe C can get rid of him. And rooting for the failure of a team one supports is clownish.

He may not get it done but I'll still root for him to succeed because I want the team to succeed. And if he fails, let's move on. But the admin has decided that is not now.
 
MJSooner said:
But it hasn't. Joe C and the admin (and BMDs) have decided to keep him for another year.

Because of that, a true fan would root for his success more than failure next year because that means our team succeeds. Is it likely? Maybe/probably not. But it seems there have been posts or individuals that root for his failure more than success so Joe C can get rid of him. And rooting for the failure of a team one supports is clownish.
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"True fan" lecture incoming.
 
IndySooner said:
But who can come in and have success without competitive NIL? THAT is the problem, much more than a coach who can make a difference of a couple games here and there.
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I’m not sure, but Moser isn’t the answer. He can’t do more with less, we know that.

There’s a general fan and donor fatigue from three years of failure. A new coach might create more buzz and financial commitment. If not, then we all need a new hobby.

I’m rooting for us to land all of our top portal targets because I’m a sick person and will watch all the games next season and would prefer we not suck really bad.

But there’s no reason to be optimistic right now.
 
BCSooners said:
Am I wrong thinking that this type of $$$ being thrown around can't last? I just don't see how donors can keep spending this type of money just to see their college field a team.
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Donors funds moving from ridiculously opulent (stupid) facilities to the players pockets is sustainable and actually better in the long run in my opinion. The only problem right now is the slow moving laws/administration impacting ou’s ability to pay its players.
 
What's Mississippi State's NIL collective lookin like? I would hope Selmon and his administration have that thing healthy if he's considered the heir to Joe C
 
MJSooner said:
But it hasn't. Joe C and the admin (and BMDs) have decided to keep him for another year.

Because of that, a true fan would root for his success more than failure next year because that means our team succeeds. Is it likely? Maybe/probably not. But it seems there have been posts or individuals that root for his failure more than success so Joe C can get rid of him. And rooting for the failure of a team one supports is clownish.

He may not get it done but I'll still root for him to succeed because I want the team to succeed. And if he fails, let's move on. But the admin has decided that is not now.
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The majority are rooting for him. We don’t want OU basketball to suck.

But it’s ok to say it sucks. We’re in a bad place and there’s no hope in sight.

We have one decent portal commit and lead for ZERO others, that we know of.

The best part? Moser is only here bc there’s no $$$ to buy him out. We all know that, too.

Not exactly a blueprint for success is it?
 
MJSooner said:
Nope. But do you disagree?
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I think it is perfectly reasonable and fair for any fan to realize after three years that the best thing for this program would be for Moser to no longer be our coach. We all know that isn't going to happen now, and that we are stuck with him for another year. I would love to make the NCAA tourney next season -- it would be my first choice in a heartbeat. But if that doesn't happen (and it is extremely likely that it won't), I don't want another bubble season that could give Joe cover to keep him. So, in order, my preference would be:

1.) Make the tourney and be pleasantly surprised that Moser got the job done
2.) Go something like 15-17 and have Joe make the move the day after we get eliminated from the SEC tourney
3.) Go 19-13, miss the tourney, and endure another season of Moser.
 
WichitaSooner said:
Ick. That lineup might struggle to average 60 ppg.
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Maybe... I think Hall/Elvis and or Cooper could all be 8-10ppg type guys. Jones is the one that I put more stock in as being "the guy" More will get you 10-14ppg. Godwin you know is a 6-10ppg. I mean, that group to me could have a toughness about them. I would like a super star PG or Center.. just not looking good.
 
BCSooners said:
Am I wrong thinking that this type of $$$ being thrown around can't last? I just don't see how donors can keep spending this type of money just to see their college field a team.
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In football, I think it lasts. For big names, I also think it lasts. If reports are true of role players getting 500K...I can't imagine that is sustainable.
 
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