Tommy Lloyd started the international pipeline at Gonzaga, and they had plenty of success with international players. Unless Lloyd lost his eye for talent, the kid may have potential and is just stuck behind better players at Zona. Averaged 14.1 points, 7.3 rebounds and 2.7 assists in seven games at the FIBA U19 World Cup for Serbia.
I think your post is well thought out and I basically agree with all of it.
JM’s overall numbers were awful in league play. It’s not just his scoring average that was the issue. It was how inefficient he was.
He doesn't have to win a national championship to turn things around. He just has to start making the tourney on a regular basis and occasionally making some noise there. Fan expectations at OU are not unreasonable.
Considering all the NBA talk around him in the portal, I'd say expectations weren't unreasonable. So either everyone was wrong about him or he just plain didn't rise to the occasion.
Just stating what Godwin improved on based on another’s comment. I’ll give you my overall opinion on Moser, which I’ve done before. You don’t have to freak out though.
Fan expectations at OU are not unreasonable. This is an interesting comment. In theory I agree that making the tourney consistently is a fair expectation. But the game has changed so much in 3 years (NIL, portal, etc) — and I’m not so sure OU has adapted well enough (via donor support, facilities, etc) to maintain this expectation, unfortunately. The coaching staff could do better, but it’s not all on them.
I’ve yet to have anyone show where any credible NBA draft expert or website so much as mentioned him. That said, his conference season was still a disappointment.
All? Maybe not. But it’s mostly on them.
It’s easy to blame them - and they deserve it. But it’s not like they can afford to land top talent.
Where did you see that? Just wondering. Did he tweet it or something?
Lusk posted it.
Moser's lucky to be coaching in this era in one sense: It gives him several excuses that some fans are eager to cite in his defense. The "support" from the AD's office is no worse now than it was when Kruger was coaching, but I don't recall that lack of support ever being cited in Kruger's defense. And when Kruger took over a team with an "empty cupboard," he didn't have the portal to turn to like Moser did, but he made the tourney in year two. And NIL gets cited so often it's almost laughable, given how little any of us actually know--not just about our own NIL but about other programs. It's almost entirely rumors and stuff guys read on Twitter. Almost nothing actually sourced. Even an OU insider doesn't necessarily know what other schools are doing, but the Moser defenders seems convinced that virtually every program in the country but OU is paying out the big bucks. It's a little silly at this point.
Great NIL or not Moser should be thanking his lucky stars to still be coaching at OU right now. He has been given so much grace for his lack of success.
OU basketball fans are fickle but last year proved that they will show up. Just gotta give them a reason to CONTINUE showing up. Personally, I went to two home games last year, and went home extremely disappointed. It makes it very very difficult to go to one next year. And I’m a pretty serious OU basketball fan. I can only imagine how unmotivated a casual fan will be to go to games next year. I expect a lot of empty seats in the LNC next year. But I guess that gives Moser more excuses. “He didn’t have the fan support he needed.” It’s just a big circle.
Not really that hard to assume other programs are spending more. Look what Arkansas just did. Providence winning out vs. OU in recruiting. Us losing out to Kansas every single time in the NIL era for players. (Not a surprise there though)
Disagree with the empty cupboard as well. Not even close to the same that Moser had, but that excuse is wearing thin now bc we have a new team every year and still miss the tournament. At some point, something has to break. I am ready for Bucky-Ball.
