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[BCSooners]

OU and Tulsa. Why?

Because you beef up TU & everyone OU plays against. Nothing in your rundown of TCU makes me think that they won’t be battling the bottom 3 teams with KSU & ISU.

Reaves & Manek are better than Nembard & Samuel. OU is better in the starting 5, bench, & star power. This is assuming Gibson is eligible, if not then TCU has a better bench.

 

[CoachTalk]

OU and Tulsa. Why?

Really? So tu?

All those power forwards and center gonna play together at tcu?

 

[thebigabd]

Because you beef up TU & everyone OU plays against. Nothing in your rundown of TCU makes me think that they won’t be battling the bottom 3 teams with KSU & ISU.

Reaves & Manek are better than Nembard & Samuel. OU is better in the starting 5, bench, & star power. This is assuming Gibson is eligible, if not then TCU has a better bench.

Reaves is two years older than Nembhard with similar stat lines and higher usage.... Nembhard was a true sophomore and Reaves is a RS junior. Likely a wash on these two, but Nembhard having a higher ceiling because he's more athletic and more time to develop.

And, the comparison isn't Manek and Samuel... It's Manek and Easley. Manek is clearly more accomplished than Easley, but Easley is still a great compliment to Samuel. 6'7'', shoots the 3 really well, averaged 14 points and 7 rebounds per game as a true freshman in D1. That is really impressive. He had 21 points and 7 rebounds at #9 Michigan, 14 and 8 against Wofford, had 15/9 against Samford, then 20/6 against Samford. 22 and 7 against Eastern Kentucky. 13 and 7 against Charlotte. The guy can play. Manek is better, but this guy can play.

Samuel matches up with Kur, and wins that easily. Kur is a RS senior and Samuel will be a junior next year, and Samuel is already ahead of Kur. He is bigger, stronger, best returning rebounder in the league, best shot blocker in the league, etc.

The other matchups in the starting lineup are PJ Fuller and Devion Harmon, both going to be true sophomores next year. And Charles O'Bannon and Alondes Williams. O'Bannon was a McDonalds All-American who transferred from USC, but did essentially nothing at USC and was injured the entire time. He is a total unknown.

They flat out have a better bench.

I don't know how else to prove their talent.... their talent is better on paper, based on production, based on recruiting rankings, etc.

 

[BCSooners]

Reaves is two years older than Nembhard with similar stat lines and higher usage.... Nembhard was a true sophomore and Reaves is a RS junior. Likely a wash on these two, but Nembhard having a higher ceiling because he's more athletic and more time to develop.

And, the comparison isn't Manek and Samuel... It's Manek and Easley. Manek is clearly more accomplished than Easley, but Easley is still a great compliment to Samuel. 6'7'', shoots the 3 really well, averaged 14 points and 7 rebounds per game as a true freshman in D1. That is really impressive. He had 21 points and 7 rebounds at #9 Michigan, 14 and 8 against Wofford, had 15/9 against Samford, then 20/6 against Samford. 22 and 7 against Eastern Kentucky. 13 and 7 against Charlotte. The guy can play. Manek is better, but this guy can play.

Samuel matches up with Kur, and wins that easily. Kur is a RS senior and Samuel will be a junior next year, and Samuel is already ahead of Kur. He is bigger, stronger, best returning rebounder in the league, best shot blocker in the league, etc.

The other matchups in the starting lineup are PJ Fuller and Devion Harmon, both going to be true sophomores next year. And Charles O'Bannon and Alondes Williams. O'Bannon was a McDonalds All-American who transferred from USC, but did essentially nothing at USC and was injured the entire time. He is a total unknown.

They flat out have a better bench.

I don't know how else to prove their talent.... their talent is better on paper, based on production, based on recruiting rankings, etc.

Nembard wasn’t better in 1 category than Reaves, including shooting %. Samuel should’ve dominated OU’s size & didn’t. Easley averaged that at Chattanooga, if OU got him he’d be compared to Calixte. O‘bannon couldn’t even get on the court for a struggling USC team.

If Gibson is eligible OU will have the better bench.

How else to prove their talent? Winning would help.

 

[WichitaSooner]

Nembard wasn’t better in 1 category than Reaves, including shooting %. Samuel should’ve dominated OU’s size & didn’t. Easley averaged that at Chattanooga, if OU got him he’d be compared to Calixte. O‘bannon couldn’t even get on the court for a struggling USC team.

If Gibson is eligible OU will have the better bench.

How else to prove their talent? Winning would help.

Beat me to the punch lol!

 

[thebigabd]

Keep in mind we are talking about them in comparison to OU... I didn't say they are going to win the league, I just said they are better than OU. You say "oh they should win to prove their talent", but I am comparing their talent roster in 2020 with OU's. Theirs is definitively better. Theirs would have been definitively better than OU's this past season if Noi and Davis didn't leave.

With a depleted roster (because of transfers) and playing Diante Smith, PJ Fuller, Francisco Farabello heavy minutes (true freshman) they were 16-16 and 7-11 when the season ended. Their other two main contributors were true sophomores (Nembhard and Samuel). And that is with a 2 point loss in OT, a 2 point loss to USC, a 1 point loss to Texas, and a 2 point loss to Oklahoma at the buzzer. So 16-16 with 4 losses by a combined 7 points.

That is 2-3 games different than an OU team that had a RS Junior, and two all-conference forwards (junior and senior) leading the way.

 

[BCSooners]

Keep in mind we are talking about them in comparison to OU... I didn't say they are going to win the league, I just said they are better than OU. You say "oh they should win to prove their talent", but I am comparing their talent roster in 2020 with OU's. Theirs is definitively better. Theirs would have been definitively better than OU's this past season if Noi and Davis didn't leave.

With a depleted roster (because of transfers) and playing Diante Smith, PJ Fuller, Francisco Farabello heavy minutes (true freshman) they were 16-16 and 7-11 when the season ended. Their other two main contributors were true sophomores (Nembhard and Samuel). And that is with a 2 point loss in OT, a 2 point loss to USC, a 1 point loss to Texas, and a 2 point loss to Oklahoma at the buzzer. So 16-16 with 4 losses by a combined 7 points.

That is 2-3 games different than an OU team that had a RS Junior, and two all-conference forwards (junior and senior) leading the way.

Preseason has 6 Big12 teams in the top 40. OU is one of them, TCU is not. You say they are definitely better, but not one college basketball guy that has done preseason rankings agree with you.

 

[BCSooners]

Keep in mind we are talking about them in comparison to OU... I didn't say they are going to win the league, I just said they are better than OU. You say "oh they should win to prove their talent", but I am comparing their talent roster in 2020 with OU's. Theirs is definitively better. Theirs would have been definitively better than OU's this past season if Noi and Davis didn't leave.

With a depleted roster (because of transfers) and playing Diante Smith, PJ Fuller, Francisco Farabello heavy minutes (true freshman) they were 16-16 and 7-11 when the season ended. Their other two main contributors were true sophomores (Nembhard and Samuel). And that is with a 2 point loss in OT, a 2 point loss to USC, a 1 point loss to Texas, and a 2 point loss to Oklahoma at the buzzer. So 16-16 with 4 losses by a combined 7 points.

That is 2-3 games different than an OU team that had a RS Junior, and two all-conference forwards (junior and senior) leading the way.

Done forget OU had 3 more wins with a tougher schedule, won both meetings, have more returning starters.

 

[thebigabd]

Preseason has 6 Big12 teams in the top 40. OU is one of them, TCU is not. You say they are definitely better, but not one college basketball guy that has done preseason rankings agree with you.

I honestly don't know how OU could be one of them.

Do you?

 

[BCSooners]

I honestly don't know how OU could be one of them.

Do you?

They were a top 35 team last year, have 7 of 9 returnees who played significant minutes, have an impact transfer coming.

You keep bringing up TCU’s youth but they had 3 seniors starting. I’ll take OU’s 3 freshmen last year over TCU’s 3.

 

[thebigabd]

They were a top 35 team last year, have 7 of 9 returnees who played significant minutes, have an impact transfer coming.

You keep bringing up TCU’s youth but they had 3 seniors starting. I’ll take OU’s 3 freshmen last year over TCU’s 3.

Devion Harmon
Victor Iwuokor
Jalen Hill

vs.

PJ Fuller
Diante Smith
Francisco Farabello

Interesting. Two of those seniors they had were roster plugs because of the transfers. They were decent role players, but the real talent on the team was the youth.

 

[WTSooner]

.....have an impact transfer coming.

Maybe. Let's wait until we hear he can plan next year before committing to that.

 

[BCSooners]

Maybe. Let's wait until we hear he can plan next year before committing to that.

True. He did have OU in there without Gibson though.

 

[WTSooner]

True. He did have OU in there without Gibson though.

But with JB? Who I guess could still come back. lol. Messy.

 

[BCSooners]

But with JB? Who I guess could still come back. lol. Messy.

Nope he already included JB as a key loss with Doolittle.

 

[CoachTalk]

I honestly don't know how OU could be one of them.

Do you?

Because we lost only doo and maybe JB.

I think if we went back I’m sure somewhere you said doo is too much 1v1 and JB wasn’t very good but I don’t have that much free time.

 

[thebigabd]

Because we lost only doo and maybe JB.

I think if we went back I’m sure somewhere you said doo is too much 1v1 and JB wasn’t very good but I don’t have that much free time.

I don't think JB is a loss. But Doolittle is a huge loss.

 

[WTSooner]

I don't think JB is a loss. But Doolittle is a huge loss.

And without Gibson, we're really adding nothing. Even if Phipps plays, I just can't see him moving the needle much this year.

With Gibson, I think we're very similar to the last few years. Without him, it's hard to not see us backing up 2-3 games at least in the W/L column.

 

[CoachTalk]

I don't think JB is a loss. But Doolittle is a huge loss.

Agree 100% on doo.

I for one would start Williams over JB. But it’s either way. We return 7 of our top 9 and all the sudden we drop to a sucky team.

You’re hatred for Lon is taking over.

NIT team you said in another post? 17-18-19 we weren’t even the last 4 in.

So you’re just off base.

 

[thebigabd]

Agree 100% on doo.

I for one would start Williams over JB. But it’s either way. We return 7 of our top 9 and all the sudden we drop to a sucky team.

You’re hatred for Lon is taking over.

NIT team you said in another post? 17-18-19 we weren’t even the last 4 in.

So you’re just off base.

Return 7 of 9 from an NIT quality team that scraped by, while missing the best player (by far) in the group. There is lots of young players who could certainly fill that gap though. Hill, Garang, Victor, Harmon, etc should all improve.. but I thought JB was going to improve and he was basically the same player. It's hard to predict that.

I have no hatred for Lon.... I just think its time for a change.