NIL Strategy

[IndySooner]

any summary or bullet point highlights for those who can't/couldn't listen?

*Most of our programs are & have to punch above their weight.
*We need to fund basketball better in order to compete
*He will not cut funding from other programs to fund basketball
*We need better NIL opportunities for student athletes
*We need a better gameday experience to draw in fans and generate revenue (specifically food & beverage called out)
*The "underdog mentality" is because we don't have the resources of other programs. We fight above our weight because we have to.
*The program has not performed how it's expected to perform. We need to give it the support and funding it needs to succeed.

 

[pncparn]

any summary or bullet point highlights for those who can't/couldn't listen?

The one point I loved was he wanted ANYONE to explain how spending dead money (porter buyout money) would be better than putting that same money into NIL for the team. No one can argue that one, unless they simply don’t like Porter

 

[hoopsaustin]

*Most of our programs are & have to punch above their weight.
*We need to fund basketball better in order to compete
*He will not cut funding from other programs to fund basketball
*We need better NIL opportunities for student athletes
*We need a better gameday experience to draw in fans and generate revenue (specifically food & beverage called out)
*The "underdog mentality" is because we don't have the resources of other programs. We fight above our weight because we have to.
*The program has not performed how it's expected to perform. We need to give it the support and funding it needs to succeed.

Should take from the dumb sports. We spend too much on non-revenue sports, like rowing bc Joe C liked them like pet projects. Hopefully that all ends. Priority has to be:
1. Football
2. Mens bball





3. Other mainstream sports



















4. Everything else

 

[hoopsaustin]

The one point I loved was he wanted ANYONE to explain how spending dead money (porter buyout money) would be better than putting that same money into NIL for the team. No one can argue that one, unless they simply don’t like Porter

I don't think we should increase $ for porter 20% moser, personally.. I think it could demoralize the BMDs further if/when we miss the tourney anyway.. might be better off hoarding and giving a larger than normal pot to a good coach. Idk

 

[steverocks35]

The one point I loved was he wanted ANYONE to explain how spending dead money (porter buyout money) would be better than putting that same money into NIL for the team. No one can argue that one, unless they simply don’t like Porter

Because he’s a terrible coach who is stealing money every second he spends at OU. He had a top 10 portal class this year and completely squandered it. He’s the problem.

 

[steverocks35]

Amazing to keep a completely incompetent coach because you’re worried about a small buyout that’s not even paid as a lump sum and would be offset by any other school paying him to coach.

 

[WichitaSooner]

The one point I loved was he wanted ANYONE to explain how spending dead money (porter buyout money) would be better than putting that same money into NIL for the team. No one can argue that one, unless they simply don’t like Porter

Of course it's arguable. Programs do it all the time. I imagine the schools coached by first-year coaches who are currently preparing to fly to NCAA tourney games are glad they moved on from bad coaches. Under this rationale, no college coach would ever get fired no matter how inept they are. Schools would just wait for the contract to run out, no matter how many years that is. It's frankly a ridiculous argument to make.

 

[hoopsaustin]

Of course it's arguable. Programs do it all the time. I imagine the schools coached by first-year coaches who are currently preparing to fly to NCAA tourney games are glad they moved on from bad coaches. Under this rationale, no college coach would ever get fired no matter how inept they are. Schools would just wait for the contract to run out, no matter how many years that is. It's frankly a ridiculous argument to make.

You might see it more and more tho in bball i predict

 

[WTSooner]

Well well. The actual numbers for overall budget sure don’t paint us as being as destitute as Moser and his stans would have us believe.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that would NOT include outside NIL, correct?

That would be internal expenses which are coaching salaries, operations, and internal revenue sharing? But not NIL?

Still tells a story, just trying to figure out what I'm looking at.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

*Most of our programs are & have to punch above their weight.
*We need to fund basketball better in order to compete
*He will not cut funding from other programs to fund basketball
*We need better NIL opportunities for student athletes
*We need a better gameday experience to draw in fans and generate revenue (specifically food & beverage called out)
*The "underdog mentality" is because we don't have the resources of other programs. We fight above our weight because we have to.
*The program has not performed how it's expected to perform. We need to give it the support and funding it needs to succeed.

So in other words...nothing new lol

I still don't like the underdog comments.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

The one point I loved was he wanted ANYONE to explain how spending dead money (porter buyout money) would be better than putting that same money into NIL for the team. No one can argue that one, unless they simply don’t like Porter

It is actually very easy to argue that.
You hire a good coach you will make up the buyout pretty quickly.
Ticket sales aren't going to come back under Moser.

The more I hear from Denny, the less I like the hire if this is his thought process

 

[mict085]

Acuff was well worth his money… pigs have a good group but that kid is main gear

True but I was more more impressed by that Brazil kid. They don’t win the game without him. He was the difference maker.

 

[CoachTalk]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that would NOT include outside NIL, correct?

That would be internal expenses which are coaching salaries, operations, and internal revenue sharing? But not NIL?

Still tells a story, just trying to figure out what I'm looking at.

Correct.

Operations cost.

That number includes all the money a school spends on coaching salaries, administrative salaries, scholarships, travel, software, recruiting, and all sorts of other operational expenses. It does not include athlete revenue share payments. The numbers we are talking about here are not the “salary cap” for each team.
I’d love to publish that information! But almost every school refuses to share it, even at an anonymized level. So this is the next best thing I can get.

 

[WichitaSooner]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that would NOT include outside NIL, correct?

That would be internal expenses which are coaching salaries, operations, and internal revenue sharing? But not NIL?

Still tells a story, just trying to figure out what I'm looking at.

Correct. Shows we roughly have a top 30 budget (not counting NIL), which completely blows out of the water the Moser argument that the program is so completely underfunded and ignored that we do not have any chance.

 

[mict085]

This chicken and egg argument is ridiculously stupid. It’s not one or the other. We need both more investment in the program and a better coach. It’s not rocket science.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Correct. Shows we roughly have a top 30 budget (not counting NIL), which completely blows out of the water the Moser argument that the program is so completely underfunded and ignored that we do not have any chance.

c'mon man.
Everyone knows that when you are talking about being underfunded it is about paying players lol

 

[WichitaSooner]

c'mon man.
Everyone knows that when you are talking about being underfunded it is about paying players lol

Except that isn't at all the argument he has made. His first couple years, NIL was barely a thing and he was already whining about resources. And even now, his complaints are not limited to NIL. He acts as if the program is completely ignored and underfunded. Top 30 budget shows that isn't the case. And again, for whatever our NIL is, we somehow managed to land a top 10-ish portal class.

 

[OULad]

Then find the money for both

 

[steverocks35]

I think I’m just going to keep reiterating this: we had a top 10 portal class this year.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Except that isn't at all the argument he has made. His first couple years, NIL was barely a thing and he was already whining about resources. And even now, his complaints are not limited to NIL. He acts as if the program is completely ignored and underfunded. Top 30 budget shows that isn't the case. And again, for whatever our NIL is, we somehow managed to land a top 10-ish portal class.

I wasn't specifically talking about what Moser says.
And having a top 30 operating budget doesn't mean the program is getting the resources it needs. A lot is tied up in coaching and admin costs and travel costs.
When moser complains about it, I'm sure he is meaning NIL and the arena and probably things we don't realize.

However NIL did start the first year Moser was coach if I'm not mistaken.
If you really want to be honest about it, go find the numbers for our operating budget when he started to see where we ranked.

But again, the point stands that when people complain about not having enough resources to compete nowadays, it is almost exclusively aimed at NIL...something that this report doesn't address