OK I'm finally over the KU loss

[perryj74]

My first thoughts after the game were if we can't beat them, and win the conference, with this bunch how will we ever do it. I mean it's Buddy freaking Hield and company!!

After I was able to cool down and think rationally instead of emotionally I realized this is just the beginning with Kruger at the helm. As good as the starting 5 is now almost all the kids brought in this year and last year were rated higher coming out of high school. I know I know recruiting rankings don't win you ballgames but they sure don't keep you from winning them either. The talent gap is narrowing quickly on Kansas even though we will likely never match what they are able to bring in on a yearly basis.

With all the recent success we've had it's hard to forget where we were just a few short years ago when Joe Castiglione had to beg Kruger to come here. The season is far from over and it could very well end up being an incredibly special one but I for one am awfully excited about where this program is going.

In :lon I trust!

 

[WTSooner]

After I was able to cool down and think rationally instead of emotionally I realized this is just the beginning with Kruger at the helm. As good as the starting 5 is now almost all the kids brought in this year and last year were rated higher coming out of high school. I know I know recruiting rankings don't win you ballgames but they sure don't keep you from winning them either. The talent gap is narrowing quickly on Kansas even though we will likely never match what they are able to bring in on a yearly basis.

I don't want to use that as an excuse. I don't expect us to beat KU all the time, or even half the time, necessarily. But Kelvin was 4-3 against "more talented" KU teams in his last 7 meetings against them. We have the talent to hold our own, and we should be beating them in Norman when we have top 15-20 type teams, unless KU is elite that year. They are not elite this year.

 

[hoopsaustin]

I won't get over this until we win the big 12 tourney or make it to elite 8

 

[scrybe]

My first thoughts after the game were if we can't beat them, and win the conference, with this bunch how will we ever do it. I mean it's Buddy freaking Hield and company!!

After I was able to cool down and think rationally instead of emotionally I realized this is just the beginning with Kruger at the helm. As good as the starting 5 is now almost all the kids brought in this year and last year were rated higher coming out of high school. I know I know recruiting rankings don't win you ballgames but they sure don't keep you from winning them either. The talent gap is narrowing quickly on Kansas even though we will likely never match what they are able to bring in on a yearly basis.

With all the recent success we've had it's hard to forget where we were just a few short years ago when Joe Castiglione had to beg Kruger to come here. The season is far from over and it could very well end up being an incredibly special one but I for one am awfully excited about where this program is going.

In :lon I trust!

I agree with almost everything you stated…except the subject line.

I'll never get over last weekend's loss to KU, even if I live 100 years or longer (LOL, I'm really not that far away).

Like I stated in a previous thread, no OU loss has affected me like this one, with the possible exception of the highway robbery loss to the birdies in the 1988 NC game.

 

[stormspencer]

I won't get over this until we win the big 12 tourney or make it to elite 8

This right here. As far as I'm concerned, the loss was so mentally deflating....more-so for the fans because we have longed for that conference championship and it was actually within our reach this year. Theoretically, we could still win it, but it is certainly more of a long shot now. I'm hoping the team will be fine and move on, but it's gonna sting some of our fans (like me) for a while.

 

[cvangild]

I agree with almost everything you stated…except the subject line.

I'll never get over last weekend's loss to KU, even if I live 100 years or longer (LOL, I'm really not that far away).

Like I stated in a previous thread, no OU loss has affected me like this one, with the possible exception of the highway robbery loss to the birdies in the 1988 NC game.

Saturday sucked, but the 1988 NC game was the worst! We would have beaten them 9 out of 10 times that year...and they pulled that game out of their a$$ that night. I can admit, I cried afterwards. I was 15 years old and was in tears after that game. :-(

 

[coolm]

I am still upset about '88 as well as last saturday.

 

[chuckb]

I'm less upset about the loss than I am the way we're playing right now. We've played 3 mediocre to poor games in a row and need to get it turned around. Our defense has not been very good and we're struggling to find ways to score when the 3 pointers aren't falling. This team has to bring it on every defensive possession tomorrow to win this crucial game.

The shots won't always go down but we can't allow that to affect our defense.

 

[Laxtothemax12]

Just tired about hearing how they have won 100 straight Big 12 titles. They're a game up on WVU and 1.5 games up on OU plus swept OU. Basically have to win out and have Kansas lose twice. I cant believe that even this year, no one is going to win the Big 12 besides Kansas

 

[Mookie]

I am still upset about '88 as well as last saturday.

me too, more than you know...ha ha I will never forget it.

the bad thing is we were a better team by far in 1988 and 2016 than ku.

OU

 

[Big Old Booger]

I don't want to use that as an excuse. I don't expect us to beat KU all the time, or even half the time, necessarily. But Kelvin was 4-3 against "more talented" KU teams in his last 7 meetings against them. We have the talent to hold our own, and we should be beating them in Norman when we have top 15-20 type teams, unless KU is elite that year. They are not elite this year.

Sampson coached against Williams most of his OU career except the last 3 seasons. In those last 3 seasons, Sampson beat KU one time in 2005 in Norman.

Also, Sampson had the luxury of playing KU once each year and he never won in Lawrence and lost more to KU at home than he won. He was 5-11 overall vs KU.

Convenient you choose the one stretch where OU was maybe a better program than KU though KU had back-to-back final 4's in that period which we were unable to do.

 

[WTSooner]

Sampson coached against Williams most of his OU career except the last 3 seasons. In those last 3 seasons, Sampson beat KU one time in 2005 in Norman.

Also, Sampson had the luxury of playing KU once each year and he never won in Lawrence and lost more to KU at home than he won. He was 5-11 overall vs KU.

Convenient you choose the one stretch where OU was maybe a better program than KU though KU had back-to-back final 4's in that period which we were unable to do.

I chose the stretch where OU under Kelvin had talent comparable to what OU has under Kruger.

I also picked a stretch that covered nearly the last 50% of Kelvin's games against KU, and games that covered a stretch of 6 of his 11 seasons at OU.

Kelvin didn't have the horses or depth those first few years.

 

[coolm]

me too, more than you know...ha ha I will never forget it.

the bad thing is we were a better team by far in 1988 and 2016 than ku.

OU

we were by far the better team in 88. Much closer in 2016 but I thought we were better now too.

 

[Big Old Booger]

I chose the stretch where OU under Kelvin had talent comparable to what OU has under Kruger.

I also picked a stretch that covered nearly the last 50% of Kelvin's games against KU, and games that covered a stretch of 6 of his 11 seasons at OU.

Kelvin didn't have the horses or depth those first few years.

Well, the difference is by that time Kelvin was in year 7 or 8 in Norman and didn't inherit a program in disarray. It had talent when he arrived, far more than Kruger had at his disposal. To Kelvin's credit he built the program and did a great job.

In 2 years let's revisit this and see how Kruger has done because then it will be his 7th season.