OSU, USC, and St. Marys got screwed.

[TINY]

I included OU's huge win against a 14 win Northwestern team.

Ball state would have been one of osu’s top non con wins.

 

[152219]

but not my near as much as the RPI

KenPome: OU 47, OSU 56
Sagarin: OU 36, OSU 47
BPI: OU 42, OSU 58

And OU is ahead in every single one. LOL

 

[SoonerBounce13]

And OU is ahead in every single one. LOL

that obviously wasn't the point of my post. If you read it, I clearly say the gap isn't nearly as huge as the RPI and those on this board make it out to be

 

[TINY]

that obviously wasn't the point of my post. If you read it, I clearly say the gap isn't nearly as huge as the RPI and those on this board make it out to be

No, the people on this board, including the homers, have been significantly more critical of Ou’s resume than the selection committee was. Ou was better than osu in every statistical ranking system. Osu has h2h but then Baylor has h2h against them. The committee got it right.

 

[Max Power]

that obviously wasn't the point of my post. If you read it, I clearly say the gap isn't nearly as huge as the RPI and those on this board make it out to be

Well it's larger than 8 which is the closest osu could have been to ou in the committees eye since we got a 10 and they got a 2 in the nit

 

[Sooner81]

owsho was .500 over its last 10 games and 6-8 over its last 14. As surges go, that's underwhelming, even if the committee did consider the last 10 games as a factor.

oswho usually relies on a weak non-conference schedule to improve their record in football, too. I feel no sympathy for them.

This right here!!

 

[152219]

that obviously wasn't the point of my post. If you read it, I clearly say the gap isn't nearly as huge as the RPI and those on this board make it out to be

Except with more data points the difference becomes even more statistically significant

 

[152219]

College Matrix
OU- 51
Okie State- 61

Another data point showing that OU was superior.

 

[mict085]

Osu didn’t get screwed. They didn’t deserve to get in. USC and St Mary’s have a gripe. Osu does not.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

College Matrix
OU- 51
Okie State- 61

Another data point showing that OU was superior.

I don't think anyone doesn't think that OU didn't have a superior OVERALL season.

But I don't think OU was a better team than OSU.

Most of the rankings are within 10 spots of eachother. OSU beat us twice.
OSU had better conference wins than us. They were consistently good...we were consistently bad.

 

[oudna]

The new quadrant system, and all the things that are "no longer selection criteria" such as how you are playing lately, where you finished in your conference, etc are total disasters and I expect them to be fixed.

St. Marys
St. Marys was 28-5... and were ranked #20 in the country last week. How does a top 25 team who won 28 games not make the NCAA tournament? SOS, RPI, bla bla whatever. This team has been in the top 25 for the last part of the year and didn't make it against teams who finished at the bottom of their own leagues.

USC
They were 23-11 and finished 2nd in the Pac 10. I agree with their coach completely. They won 11 games away from home, had an RPI of 23, and a SOS of 37. What in the hell happened here?

"If all that matters is the quality of your best win or two on your schedule, then we shouldn't even play and just set the field in December after the out-of-conference was complete," he said. "It basically discredited our entire league schedule, and no matter what we or some of the other teams in our league did during the Pac-12 or the conference tournament did not obviously matter."

Oklahoma State
It seems bizarre to me that a team gets judged so heavily by crap teams on their schedule.. They won those games. They beat Kansas twice, beat Oklahoma twice, beat Texas Tech, beat West Virginia... Again, just like the USC coach said, might as well just set the bracket at Xmas because apparently nothing else matters. Winning that Texas game they lost by 1 or that Arkansas game they lost by 1 would have done it, probably, but they should be in regardless.

Agree on St Mary’s and USC

Disagree on OSU. They went 8-10.

 

[Max Power]

I don't think anyone doesn't think that OU didn't have a superior OVERALL season.

But I don't think OU was a better team than OSU.

Most of the rankings are within 10 spots of eachother. OSU beat us twice.
OSU had better conference wins than us. They were consistently good...we were consistently bad.

and OU was seeded about 10 spots higher. So what are you complaining about. Just to read your own typing?

 

[WichitaSooner]

When do the humans start looking at things instead of the computers?

 

[MsProudSooner]

When do the humans start looking at things instead of the computers?

When you add humans to the equation, you inject bias. Computers treat everyone the same.

 

[WichitaSooner]

When you add humans to the equation, you inject bias. Computers treat everyone the same.

I was joking, it was a reference to a few posters who were adamant in the days leading up to Selection Sunday that despite what every bracket projection showed, OU wouldn't make it once the humans, i.e., committee members, met.

 

[Eielson]

I'm in complete agreement that this OU team wasn't worthy of a NCAA bid, but once you start talking about OSU being deserving...that's when I know you're off your rocker.

 

[MsProudSooner]

I was joking, it was a reference to a few posters who were adamant in the days leading up to Selection Sunday that despite what every bracket projection showed, OU wouldn't make it once the humans, i.e., committee members, met.

Ohhhhhhh :facepalm

 

[SoonerBounce13]

and OU was seeded about 10 spots higher. So what are you complaining about. Just to read your own typing?

I'm not complaining about anything.

Just pointing out that it isn't ridiculous like you guys make it out to be that people are upset that OU is in and OSU is out.

 

[Zimwillett]

I'm in complete agreement that this OU team wasn't worthy of a NCAA bid, but once you start talking about OSU being deserving...that's when I know you're off your rocker.

Exactly. I'm trying to be objective and am fully willing to admit OU probably stole one here. But there are literally about 7 or 8 teams I think were more deserving of at large consideration before OSU including, but not limited to:

1. Baylor (RPI 68...swept OSU)
2. USC (RPI 34)
3. Louisville (RPI 38)
4. St. Mary's (RPI 40)
5. Middle Tennessee (RPI 33)
6. Marquette (RPI 57)
7. Utah (RPI 58)

This why I don't think it's hyperbole to say that OSU was never really a "bubble" team. Frankly, I doubt the committee wasted much time discussing the Cowboys at all.

 

[sperry]

I don't think anyone doesn't think that OU didn't have a superior OVERALL season.

But I don't think OU was a better team than OSU.

Most of the rankings are within 10 spots of eachother. OSU beat us twice.
OSU had better conference wins than us. They were consistently good...we were consistently bad.

How was OSU consistently good and we were consistently bad, yet we had the same record and split the regular season series?