OSU, USC, and St. Marys got screwed.

This is one of the best jobs the tourney has ever done. They made one bad screwup: Syracuse being in was an absolute travesty, one of the worst calls they've ever made.

That should have gone to USC, St. Mary's or Notre Dame. OSU is nowhere in that conversation. They were not even close to getting into the field, nor should they have been.
 
The new quadrant system, and all the things that are "no longer selection criteria" such as how you are playing lately, where you finished in your conference, etc are total disasters and I expect them to be fixed.

St. Marys
St. Marys was 28-5... and were ranked #20 in the country last week. How does a top 25 team who won 28 games not make the NCAA tournament? SOS, RPI, bla bla whatever. This team has been in the top 25 for the last part of the year and didn't make it against teams who finished at the bottom of their own leagues.

USC
They were 23-11 and finished 2nd in the Pac 10. I agree with their coach completely. They won 11 games away from home, had an RPI of 23, and a SOS of 37. What in the hell happened here?

"If all that matters is the quality of your best win or two on your schedule, then we shouldn't even play and just set the field in December after the out-of-conference was complete," he said. "It basically discredited our entire league schedule, and no matter what we or some of the other teams in our league did during the Pac-12 or the conference tournament did not obviously matter."

Oklahoma State
It seems bizarre to me that a team gets judged so heavily by crap teams on their schedule.. They won those games. They beat Kansas twice, beat Oklahoma twice, beat Texas Tech, beat West Virginia... Again, just like the USC coach said, might as well just set the bracket at Xmas because apparently nothing else matters. Winning that Texas game they lost by 1 or that Arkansas game they lost by 1 would have done it, probably, but they should be in regardless.

What about Baylor? Baylor swept OSU and Texas along with beating Kansas once. Granted OSU had 4 nice wins but they were just 7-8 over the last 15 games. 4 good wins and 3 double digit losses at home.
 
I don't understand removing 'last 10' from the picture. Isn't the goal of the tournament to have the best 68 teams in the tournament? If it doesn't matter WHEN you play the games, why make the low-major, 1-bid conferences play a conference tournament for the bid? Why not just give the regular season champ the automatic bid? If you're using the overall season and treating every game equally to dole out at-large bids.
 
I don't understand removing 'last 10' from the picture. Isn't the goal of the tournament to have the best 68 teams in the tournament? If it doesn't matter WHEN you play the games, why make the low-major, 1-bid conferences play a conference tournament for the bid? Why not just give the regular season champ the automatic bid? If you're using the overall season and treating every game equally to dole out at-large bids.

The regular season champ should get the automatic bid IMO, but the conferences love the $$$ that comes with the conference tournaments.
 
The regular season champ should get the automatic bid IMO, but the conferences love the $$$ that comes with the conference tournaments.

What's worse is I bet those mid-major conference tournaments don't make any money. The Power 5's do but the others don't.
 
I don't understand removing 'last 10' from the picture. Isn't the goal of the tournament to have the best 68 teams in the tournament?

A 5-5 record over their last 10 would have hardly have made oswho a shoo-in for the tourney. Schedule a quality non-conference slate and get back to us.
 
What's worse is I bet those mid-major conference tournaments don't make any money. The Power 5's do but the others don't.

It gets them on ESPN, which is the only time they are seen by most hoops viewers. Plus, ESPN is giving them $$$ to televise the tournaments.
 
It gets them on ESPN, which is the only time they are seen by most hoops viewers. Plus, ESPN is giving them $$$ to televise the tournaments.

That's true....I was thinking just ticket sales.
 
OU had a better of body of work and it’s clear. I’d give OSU a slight edge in conf play and OU a massive edge in non con.

But OSU beat more tournament teams than OU, played a similar non-conference schedule (which I have already proven), made it further in the conference tournament, and finished higher in conference standings.

I get you guys are OU homers, but the evidence for this is clear.
 
But OSU beat more tournament teams than OU, played a similar non-conference schedule (which I have already proven), made it further in the conference tournament, and finished higher in conference standings.

I get you guys are OU homers, but the evidence for this is clear.

LOL at saying the noncoference schedules were similar. Not even close.
 
If you are relying on Barkley and Dickey V agreeing with you to make your point, you are making a very bad point.
 
But OSU beat more tournament teams than OU, played a similar non-conference schedule (which I have already proven), made it further in the conference tournament, and finished higher in conference standings.

I get you guys are OU homers, but the evidence for this is clear.

In what universe is 290 and 129 the same?
 
But OSU beat more tournament teams than OU, played a similar non-conference schedule (which I have already proven), made it further in the conference tournament, and finished higher in conference standings.

I get you guys are OU homers, but the evidence for this is clear.

lol, good grief dude, give it up.

Finished higher in the conference? No, not really. They finished with the same record, and tied for the same spot. OSU had the tie-breakers when it came to seeding for the conference tourney. You are really reaching here. All that needs to be said is that OSU's RPI was 20+ spots higher than the highest at-large to ever make the Tourney. Game over.
 
A 5-5 record over their last 10 would have hardly have made oswho a shoo-in for the tourney. Schedule a quality non-conference slate and get back to us.

You beat me to it. Everyone acts like OSU was some kind of juggernaut down the stretch of the season. Admittedly, they played better at times, but the people making this argument conveniently forget about the 20 point drubbing they took in Ft. Worth, or the stinker they put on the floor vs. Baylor in Stillwater.

Again, I'm perfectly fine if some wants to make a case for just about any other bubble team getting in over OU. But the hard truth is that OSU was never really an actual "bubble" team. It's not possible to run the counterfactual, but given where their resume is right now, I'm pretty sure nothing short of them cutting down the nets in KC would have gotten them in this year.
 
OSU didn't even get a #1 seed in the NIT.

But they got screwed in the NCAA, right? smh
 
In what universe is 290 and 129 the same?

Because they played a similar number of quality teams... I listed out all the total cream-puffs OU played, which is similar to the amount of cream-puffs OSU played.

I guess the side you are taking is... sure, OU played teams with 4 or 5 wins too, but they were still better cream-puffs than the cream-puffs OSU played?
 
Because they played a similar number of quality teams... I listed out all the total cream-puffs OU played, which is similar to the amount of cream-puffs OSU played.

I guess the side you are taking is... sure, OU played teams with 4 or 5 wins too, but they were still better cream-puffs than the cream-puffs OSU played?

:ez-roll::ez-roll:
 
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